Honzuki no Gekokujou: Shisho ni Naru tame ni wa Shudan o Erandeiraremasen—Dai-5 Bu: Todaeta Chishiki o Tsunageyou! - Ch. 4 - Divine Protections of th…

[MangaDex]

 

[WhimsiCat]

That visual of her getting slammed by the blessings...

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Won't be the last time Myne get slammed with multiple gods' blessings.

At least next time it'll turn her into quite the beaty...after 3 months

About Roderick/h

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He's 'slightly' omni-element due to his name offering to Myne who is omni element after being dyed by Ferdinand who's of royal blood.

I wonder, about Hannelore

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If her having the goddess of time's blessing is due to what will happen later.

 

[ShionVaynex]

That visual of her getting slammed by the blessings...

Spoiler

Won't be the last time Myne get slammed with multiple gods' blessings.

At least next time it'll turn her into quite the beaty...after 3 months

About Roderick/h

Spoiler

He's 'slightly' omni-element due to his name offering to Myne who is omni element after being dyed by Ferdinand who's of royal blood.

I wonder, about Hannelore

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If her having the goddess of time's blessing is due to what will happen later.

Spoiler: about the second spoiler

it has less to do with myne having copied Royal mana, and more about her praying. myne is much more genuine whenever any gods are mentioned. the entire noble culture that references gods in daily speech is designed to be like a prayer. though its more like trying to get any particular gods attention.

hannalore was the same with how much she pray to the time goddess. same with the other first year girl.

despite how it looks but the average noble is less religious that you might think. i mean each of them turned their main church into a whore house.

 

[xanon]

Any chapter that has both Philine and Hannelore is a great chapter.

 

[HailTheHaleHydrator]

Page 30 panel 2 bubble 1: "you did fail the ritual?"
It would be better as "did you fail the ritual?"
Thanks for the great translation though


That colored double page for the circle lighting up was perfect for the scene

 

[niteman555]

Spoiler: about the second spoiler

it has less to do with myne having copied Royal mana, and more about her praying. myne is much more genuine whenever any gods are mentioned. the entire noble culture that references gods in daily speech is designed to be like a prayer. though its more like trying to get any particular gods attention.

hannalore was the same with how much she pray to the time goddess. same with the other first year girl.

despite how it looks but the average noble is less religious that you might think. i mean each of them turned their main church into a whore house.

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To be more precise, those who give their names are surrounded by their masters mana at all times. This means that when Roderich did his ceremony, it wasn't just his own mana that went into the magic circle.

 

[WhimsiCat]

Spoiler: about the second spoiler

it has less to do with myne having copied Royal mana, and more about her praying. myne is much more genuine whenever any gods are mentioned. the entire noble culture that references gods in daily speech is designed to be like a prayer. though its more like trying to get any particular gods attention.

hannalore was the same with how much she pray to the time goddess. same with the other first year girl.

despite how it looks but the average noble is less religious that you might think. i mean each of them turned their main church into a whore house.

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Her praying is what got her the 40 blessings but the color of her mana is very much Ferdinand's, it's even plot relevant multiple times.

The 'normal' method to become omni element is different. Yes it involves praying, but there's another step to it that Myne clearly hasn't done yet.

Also Hannelore's own comment suggest she hasn't exactly been praying to goddess of time enough to be worthy of a blessing 'at this time'.

Oh and the gods literally don't care about the whore house part.

 

[AlmondMagnum]

@ngungbi
Thanks for the TL.

There is a mistake on page 6: Ewigeliebe is a male god.

 

[Quarnozian]

TY for the translation.

I'm so glad they did a full color spread for the pillars of light.

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though in the WN, it was described like actual pillars, and they began only partially-lit. Then as she chanted the subordinates names the pillars would fill up upon receiving a blessing from the named subordinate.

That's how she (and the teachers observing) knew how many blessings she got, and from which gods.

 

[AgentP]

Just want to give good vibes and thanks for the translation 😍

 

[ngungbi]

Page 30 panel 2 bubble 1: "you did fail the ritual?"
It would be better as "did you fail the ritual?"
Thanks for the great translation though


That colored double page for the circle lighting up was perfect for the scene

thanks for the suggestion

@ngungbi
Thanks for the TL.

There is a mistake on page 6: Ewigeliebe is a male god.

thanks for the correction

 

[niteman555]

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Her praying is what got her the 40 blessings but the color of her mana is very much Ferdinand's, it's even plot relevant multiple times.

The 'normal' method to become omni element is different. Yes it involves praying, but there's another step to it that Myne clearly hasn't done yet.

Also Hannelore's own comment suggest she hasn't exactly been praying to goddess of time enough to be worthy of a blessing 'at this time'.

Oh and the gods literally don't care about the whore house part.

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I was never 100% clear on the intended method. Is the method just to give mana while praying to the gods? I think the large shrines are primarily to get the words to get Book? or are the shrines necessary to get the blessing of a pillar god if you weren't born with their color?

We see that Hannelore gained Dreganuhr's protection thanks to the charm that her head attendant made. Hannelore's own comment is because she's skeptical about having her protection because she believes her timing to be poor and thus unworthy.

 

[WhimsiCat]

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I was never 100% clear on the intended method. Is the method just to give mana while praying to the gods? I think the large shrines are primarily to get the words to get Book? or are the shrines necessary to get the blessing of a pillar god if you weren't born with their color?

We see that Hannelore gained Dreganuhr's protection thanks to the charm that her head attendant made. Hannelore's own comment is because she's skeptical about having her protection because she believes her timing to be poor and thus unworthy.

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It is getting gods' blessing (Philene here got wind added due to Mestionora's blessing)
I got a little mixed up with how to get a certain holy book, that one require getting all primary gods' blessing, which necessitate getting any missing elements from subordinate gods' blessings first.

That said, Myne was already omni-element before doing this ceremony so my point still stand that her omni-element was not from praying.

As for my little comment on Hanne it was just whimsical pondering, considering

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the reveal from part 6 that Ferdinand's survival is from a stable time loop of Myne going back in time to ensure his survival

 

[damadicius]

I wonder, about Hannelore

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If her having the goddess of time's blessing is due to what will happen later.

Probably depends on how time and fate work in this world's setting. But assuming there is Glucklitat, the god of ordeals, I assume fates are not predetermined. And if fate is not predetermined then it’s probably her own praying that gained Dregarnuhr’s blessing.

 

[WhimsiCat]

Probably depends on how time and fate work in this world's setting. But assuming there is Glucklitat, the god of ordeals, I assume fates are not predetermined. And if fate is not predetermined then it’s probably her own praying that gained Dregarnuhr’s blessing.

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I mean, does a god wanting history to run specific way count as fate?

Because that's literally the reason behind the time travel in part 6/sequel/the year Hanne go extra

 

[jctsoi]

That visual of her getting slammed by the blessings...

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Won't be the last time Myne get slammed with multiple gods' blessings.

At least next time it'll turn her into quite the beaty...after 3 months

I don't it's being slammed. Isn't she still wearing those magic tools that supports her weaken state because her long sleep? And since the ritual sucks the mana out of her to power it, it probably sucked enough magic out to have those magic tools turn off and her feeble noodle arm could barely support her own weight and almost collapsed.

 

[niteman555]

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It is getting gods' blessing (Philene here got wind added due to Mestionora's blessing)
I got a little mixed up with how to get a certain holy book, that one require getting all primary gods' blessing, which necessitate getting any missing elements from subordinate gods' blessings first.

That said, Myne was already omni-element before doing this ceremony so my point still stand that her omni-element was not from praying.

As for my little comment on Hanne it was just whimsical pondering, considering

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the reveal from part 6 that Ferdinand's survival is from a stable time loop of Myne going back in time to ensure his survival

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The terminology is still a little muddy for me, but in the case of Philine, she gained an affinity to wind through Mestonora, but not Schutzaria's blessing, correct? In order for her to get that, she'd have to gain the blessing of all the subordinates of wind and then go to the appropriate shrine? or could she skip the shrine and just re-do the divine protections ceremony? In short, are the shrines only necessary to gain colors if you are also seeking the Book?

 

[WhimsiCat]

I don't it's being slammed. Isn't she still wearing those magic tools that supports her weaken state because her long sleep? And since the ritual sucks the mana out of her to power it, it probably sucked enough magic out to have those magic tools turn off and her feeble noodle arm could barely support her own weight and almost collapsed.

If it stop working she would've faceplant, but you can see she didn't + there's no (even if small) 'down time' where she had to refill the tool before looking at the statues moves.

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The terminology is still a little muddy for me, but in the case of Philine, she gained an affinity to wind through Mestonora, but not Schutzaria's blessing, correct? In order for her to get that, she'd have to gain the blessing of all the subordinates of wind and then go to the appropriate shrine? or could she skip the shrine and just re-do the divine protections ceremony? In short, are the shrines only necessary to gain colors if you are also seeking the Book?

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The wiki doesn't specify if you need ALL the subordinate gods' blessings to get the main one if you're not naturally of that affinity but definitely need the subordinate's blessing first.
She can get that blessing from the divine protection ceremony, no need to actually visit the shrine.

The main gods' shrines are necessary for getting the fragments for Grutrissheit.

 

[AlmondMagnum]

If it stop working she would've faceplant, but you can see she didn't

It's her third year. She's recovered some physical strength, despite her best efforts.

 

[LiAuN]

damn something that the manga clearly got wrong Myne would have copied the circle before coming out of the barrier again. in no way would Hishrur as a professor of the RA be allowed to allow the student to copy down that circle in any way without a major risk from the royal family.