Hope You're Happy, Lemon - Ch. 61

[Firemorfox]

it's refreshing to see an accurate siblings interaction in manga for once

nah
not accurate enough
no death threats between siblings

 

[cajones]

Please don't tell me we're going to have multiple more chapters spent on things that happened before the story started. I wish there was a way to ask the author how many chapters they plan to do this for so I can skip it.

 

[Lunkli]

Ah, I see. She liked that she could act however she wanted around Sunao, but after they started dating, she started forcing herself to act specifically as his "girlfriend." So she lost the only reason she liked being around him.

 

[Nami]

So now she's turned out to be some sort of sociopath?

Or just an awkward teenager.

Don't pretend you don't know what that's like.

it's a real question, I'm not really sure all of what entails being a sociopath and whether or not Lemon's current behavior conforms with it.

You probably shouldn't use words you don't understand.

 

[Nami]

Ah, I see. She liked that she could act however she wanted around Sunao, but after they started dating, she started forcing herself to act specifically as his "girlfriend." So she lost the only reason she liked being around him.

I get the feeling you're right, but it's also clearly that she was trying to protect him (in her own messed up teenager logic). She had been on the receiving end of ridicule from classmates behind her back and was convinced she deserved some of it. She clearly has self worth issues. It seems like she felt that, by becoming his girlfriend, she was bringing him into a situation where he was now being subjected to the same ridicule. The moment that started, she likely decided to call it off in a way that would shock him so much that he wouldn't spend time fighting it. That way, she could just self sacrifice and take it all onto herself. She felt she deserved it, but Sunao did not.

It's still a very selfish decision for her to make. She didn't discuss this with him. She didn't give him the option to work through it with her. She just made the decision for both of them and lied to him about cheating to distance herself and avoid pushback on the breakup. She was in the wrong. But hey, this is all normal teenager shit.

 

[Umbrum]

You probably shouldn't use words you don't understand.

If I was stating an opinion or a fact then yeah, since I was asking a question it should be fine right? cause I'm pretty much asking to be instructed on the things that I don't know about.

 

[Nami]

If I was stating an opinion or a fact then yeah, since I was asking a question it should be fine right? cause I'm pretty much asking to be instructed on the things that I don't know about.

Well, that's my bad then. I didn't think that was a genuine question. Maybe I've been too poisoned by irony and sarcasm online.

I would say no, then. She's clearly not a sociopath. She's in her own head a lot, but she also clearly cares about Sunao's feelings (even to the detriment of her own), which is not really a thing a sociopath does. Now, she definitely displays certain antisocial behaviors, but a lot of people who can still feel empathy for other people do.

 

[Umbrum]

Well, that's my bad then. I didn't think that was a genuine question. Maybe I've been too poisoned by irony and sarcasm online.

I would say no, then. She's clearly not a sociopath. She's in her own head a lot, but she also clearly cares about Sunao's feelings (even to the detriment of her own), which is not really a thing a sociopath does. Now, she definitely displays certain antisocial behaviors, but a lot of people who can still feel empathy for other people do.

Thanks, so for example while it did take her a while to display remorse for what she did to Sunao it's still genuine remorse, meaning she clearly cares about him, Is caring about someone something that sociopaths can't do?

I do still wonder if the way she cares about Sunao's feelings counts as empathy, like maybe she cares about how he feels about her but has an unusually hard time understanding his feelings, would that still count as empathy? I can see empathy implying that you care to some degree or empathy being the reason you care to being with but I think it's possible to care about someone without being able to empathize with their situation. Is a sociopath uncapable of empathy or uncapable of caring about other people? Is a sociopath completely uncapable of remorse or is it more like they struggle to feel remorse?