Humans are the Strongest Race ~Starting a Slow Life with an Elf Wife in a Different World~ - Vol. 4 Ch. 30
- Thread starter MangaDex
- Start date
@JavelinJoe
It's getting real old to have people question these things. Why ever would a Japanese manga, made in Japan, by Japanese people, sold in Japan, to Japanese people, include a Japanese protagonist who wants the comforts from Japan in this new, foreign, unfamiliar world which is usually based on Western origins? It's not like we have stories of people going East and wanting Western comforts, right? Ah, we do.
Accept that it's cultural that they like the comforts of home and want them with them wherever they go. They're not heading to the Western-inspired fantasy world to glorify Western culture, which is all anyone seems to complain about around here while trying to act like it's not what they're complaining about. It's about bringing a little piece of home with them while they explore the new world.
Consider how often (to the point of insanity) that we see the need for soy sauce, baths, mayo, katana, and rice. Because these are the things a Japanese audience will ALL know and resonate with, the desire for these things when they aren't available. Sure there are those who don't like these, but that's not the cultural understanding - those people are outliers, not part of the figure. Going with one of those makes the character different enough from the intended audience there needs to be a reason to accept it, it practically needs to be a story point as to why this person doesn't seem like they share 'everyman' Japanese traits.
Source: Me, who as a younger self while in Okinawa, mostly wanted hamburgers and normal 'American' food, missing out on many Japanese dishes. The desire for the comfort of familiarity was strong.
It's getting real old to have people question these things. Why ever would a Japanese manga, made in Japan, by Japanese people, sold in Japan, to Japanese people, include a Japanese protagonist who wants the comforts from Japan in this new, foreign, unfamiliar world which is usually based on Western origins? It's not like we have stories of people going East and wanting Western comforts, right? Ah, we do.
Accept that it's cultural that they like the comforts of home and want them with them wherever they go. They're not heading to the Western-inspired fantasy world to glorify Western culture, which is all anyone seems to complain about around here while trying to act like it's not what they're complaining about. It's about bringing a little piece of home with them while they explore the new world.
Consider how often (to the point of insanity) that we see the need for soy sauce, baths, mayo, katana, and rice. Because these are the things a Japanese audience will ALL know and resonate with, the desire for these things when they aren't available. Sure there are those who don't like these, but that's not the cultural understanding - those people are outliers, not part of the figure. Going with one of those makes the character different enough from the intended audience there needs to be a reason to accept it, it practically needs to be a story point as to why this person doesn't seem like they share 'everyman' Japanese traits.
Source: Me, who as a younger self while in Okinawa, mostly wanted hamburgers and normal 'American' food, missing out on many Japanese dishes. The desire for the comfort of familiarity was strong.
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Jun 2, 2018
- Messages
- 11,295
A WILD LOLI VAMPIRE HAS APPEARED
Supporter
- Joined
- Aug 24, 2018
- Messages
- 2,029
Thanks for the chapter!
@Wolvenworks I literally came to the comment section with that comment in my head.
@Wolvenworks I literally came to the comment section with that comment in my head.
@SteamBaron Before now, I had literally never heard Worcestershire sauce get called English sauce in my life. It's always been called Worcestershire sauce in Australia/New Zealand. According to the wiki, they call it Worcester sauce in Japan.
@Kayriel Agree 100%. I've made similar arguments on other isekai threads too. You never see Truck-kun get this much hate, though I do admit I sometimes get a bit eye-roll annoyed when a no context wild katana suddenly appears.
@Kayriel Agree 100%. I've made similar arguments on other isekai threads too. You never see Truck-kun get this much hate, though I do admit I sometimes get a bit eye-roll annoyed when a no context wild katana suddenly appears.
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Mar 31, 2018
- Messages
- 1,267
@Kayriel
I have no problem with people taking comfort in things related to their home. It is perfectly natural to want it. And I agree it would be odd if they did not. It is just interesting to me how almost all stick to that instead of the "when in Rome" approach. Though I guess it could be argued that when they are not eating strictly Japanese foods, they are taking that approach.
Either way, my main point was that it is just intriguing how seemingly every MC is a good enough cook to make all of these foods practically with their first try, given how most come from some NEET based lifestyle, where cooking is not topping their daily activity charts.
Also, that it would be interesting if there was basically an inverse of all of this, because it would be so odd. A world full of Japanese things, but the Japaneese native MC wants to get away from it and try new things because he has seen it all in manga and anime and wants to try it. And I am not talking about him wanting a American, Mexican, Italian foods. Or he wants to use a long sword, or bow, etc. But to really get "different world-esque". Like the MC wants to try cake made with Goblin meat and Slime because it would be new. Or MC wants to use a wodden club or an average everyday hammer for a main weapon. Stuff completely out of the "normal".
But in the end, Japan should keep doing primarily Japan things. It is their primary demographic afterall.
I have no problem with people taking comfort in things related to their home. It is perfectly natural to want it. And I agree it would be odd if they did not. It is just interesting to me how almost all stick to that instead of the "when in Rome" approach. Though I guess it could be argued that when they are not eating strictly Japanese foods, they are taking that approach.
Either way, my main point was that it is just intriguing how seemingly every MC is a good enough cook to make all of these foods practically with their first try, given how most come from some NEET based lifestyle, where cooking is not topping their daily activity charts.
Also, that it would be interesting if there was basically an inverse of all of this, because it would be so odd. A world full of Japanese things, but the Japaneese native MC wants to get away from it and try new things because he has seen it all in manga and anime and wants to try it. And I am not talking about him wanting a American, Mexican, Italian foods. Or he wants to use a long sword, or bow, etc. But to really get "different world-esque". Like the MC wants to try cake made with Goblin meat and Slime because it would be new. Or MC wants to use a wodden club or an average everyday hammer for a main weapon. Stuff completely out of the "normal".
But in the end, Japan should keep doing primarily Japan things. It is their primary demographic afterall.
Member
- Joined
- Aug 8, 2018
- Messages
- 243
@panneqaha Australia/New Zealand, bein' part of Commonwealth, are more or less the same as England but, yeah, you have a point.
I always thought every other country called it english sauce since not only it IS an english sauce but "english sauce" can be translated in every other language while "Worcestershire" can't. Also, Worcestershire is just hard to pronounce for non-english speakers.
I always thought every other country called it english sauce since not only it IS an english sauce but "english sauce" can be translated in every other language while "Worcestershire" can't. Also, Worcestershire is just hard to pronounce for non-english speakers.
Active member
- Joined
- Mar 23, 2018
- Messages
- 44
The boring, cynical asshole in me just thinks this is a case of the people doing the writing having very little cooking experience so they just go with the very basics they don't fuck up.
So soy sauce gets praised because it's basically just like drowning stuff in ketchup. Doesn't matter how badly you've fucked up the recipe, ketchup is full of all them tasty bits that you really shouldn't be eating all that much of, so if you just add enough ketchup over it all to average out to the tastiness of ketchup flavour you suddenly have a successful attempt at cooking.
But who am I to criticize anyone, I just recently finished my friday dinner and looked over to see a lonely egg on the counter that should've been added to my cooking a good ten minutes earlier, far too late to get hurriedly mixed in.
So soy sauce gets praised because it's basically just like drowning stuff in ketchup. Doesn't matter how badly you've fucked up the recipe, ketchup is full of all them tasty bits that you really shouldn't be eating all that much of, so if you just add enough ketchup over it all to average out to the tastiness of ketchup flavour you suddenly have a successful attempt at cooking.
But who am I to criticize anyone, I just recently finished my friday dinner and looked over to see a lonely egg on the counter that should've been added to my cooking a good ten minutes earlier, far too late to get hurriedly mixed in.
Double-page supporter
- Joined
- Sep 9, 2024
- Messages
- 39
Here, in Switzerland (Where we speak French and German), yes, we call it Worcestershire too.
Isn't it the same everywhere? Is there another name?
Similar threads
