I Asked My First Girlfriend Why She Went Out with Me

[yojacket]

where's you outta pocket to bring levity and wisdom when we need it the most?

 

[SuperRobotSolo]

This is some fucked up shit, man. 0/10. The fuck is wrong with you?

 

[Candidus]

I enjoyed this, it was a nice read. Bittersweet, though only 10% sweet because she is helpful and she does like MC. I would probably want to set boundaries in a relationship IRL regarding this, and I would not consider it toxic if that was the case. It is kinda messed up since there are no lines set, but it's fiction so I can enjoy it without caring about the complexities of real life rules. IDK why a bunch of people keep bringing up how terrible this would be IRL when it's clearly just a degradation kink.

 

[razie5]

I don't get it

 

[Yankun]

So basically what im getting here is that shes just a really big tsundere

Not quite....
Tsundere are more impusive, this woman isn't.

 

[jubuttib]

Why is this in the "popular new titles"? It's got a rating of less than 7, which, knowing what I know about how ratings work, is a terrible rating. Do these ratings just not matter at all?

I mean technically speaking the rating shouldn't matter to popularity, just how many people are reading (or have recently started, etc.). Being good is different from being popular.

 

[Verypeeved]

I mean technically speaking the rating shouldn't matter to popularity, just how many people are reading (or have recently started, etc.). Being good is different from being popular.

adjective: popular

liked, admired, or enjoyed by many people

You fucking donkey.

 

[Phuocphuc46]

Why is this in the "popular new titles"? It's got a rating of less than 7, which, knowing what I know about how ratings work, is a terrible rating. Do these ratings just not matter at all?

It's a bit like how 5Toubun has been "Seasonal" for the last forever. Seriously speaking - there's an algorithm going on behind the scene that takes lots of things into account (it's probably just the amount of interactions in general within the first few hours of new release). But come on now, a word can have multiple meanings, popular is also synonymous for well-known and I don't think people only use the very most literal meaning for each word. No need to lambast that other commentor for speculating as much as everyone else

 

[Verypeeved]

@Phuocphuc46

A word can have many different meanings. It's a shame none of them are the drivel you're spouting. I will continue to lambast for as long as you try to justify twisting language into a pretzel.

And yes, obviously there's an algorithm going on, unless it's manually set by the people running it, which would be odd, which is exactly what I was speculating on before you people decided to jump in with your nonsense.

Also, that line about "Being good is different from being popular." from the other guy was just ridiculous. Obviously that's true, but ratings aren't a measurement of the former, but the latter.

 

[jubuttib]

Also, that line about "Being good is different from being popular." from the other guy was just ridiculous. Obviously that's true, but ratings aren't a measurement of the former, but the latter.

That's a bit harsh. I will of course grant you that popular does also have a connotation of "liking" the thing as well (forgive me, I was a bit tired when writing the original), but I don't think it's the defining feature, it first needs to have numbers behind it. And most people don't even rate what they read, based on totaling the numbers of ratings vs. the numbers of follows, I'd estimate something like on average maybe 5% (out of the 10 manga in the "Popular New Titles" list, the lowest percentage was about 2%, highest was about 8%, with almost all of the others being 4-5%, small sample sure).

FWIW the algorithm for the homepage's "Popular New Titles" list seems fairly simple, at least on surface. They seem to be ordered by the number of follows/bookmarks/whatevers, and in the case of there being an equal number of thousands they secondarily sort by the rating. And then they probably have a time limit that any manga is allowed to be there, since it's "new titles". The list is probably not entirely real time, only updated ever so often, so you can get slight outliers, but that looks to be the basic formula, more or less. Put it this way: When I looked at it, there was one manga with both slightly more follows and a higher rating than the one ahead of it, but they were still on the same number of thousands. There weren't any instances of a 15k follows being behind a 14k follows, etc.

So at the time of writing, we have on places 2-3-4 the following manga (R = rating, B = "bookmarks", since that's what the icon looks like):

2-I'm Not Some Man's Dress-Up-Doll! R8.27 B21,466
3-Giving Love Advice to an Online Friend R8.23 B21,361
4-I, the Only [Divine Sword User] in the World, Was Expelled and Became the Strongest With the Awakened [Divine Sword] R6.28 B21,424

4 has (slightly) more people reading it than 3, but since they're on the same number of thousands the rating difference puts 3 ahead. Ahead of them is Classmate Maid R7.73 B25,401, lower rated than 2 & 3 but more followed than any of them, and after them is Timid Girl ◯◯ Years Later... R8.18 B15,153, more highly rated than 1 and 4 but way less followed.

As a sidenote, I don't quite understand how ratings are a supposed direct indication of popularity rather than how much people liked it, could you explain your meaning with that? This with the caveat that I can understand high ratings being given to something many people would consider to be garbage. Is it about that side of things?

I promise you I'm not being facetious, in my mind it's just that "popularity" is primarily a numbers game and "ratings" are a perceived quality game, especially when discussing media products rather than for example popular people, solutions or misconceptions. A movie that made a billion in the box office was clearly a VERY "popular choice" for movie goers, even if it was utter crap quality wise (e.g. The Rise of The Skywalker, 7th in box office earnings in 2019), while a movie that is almost universally praised by everyone who has seen it, but struggled to gain any viewers in the theaters, (e.g. The Shawshank Redemption, 95th in box office in 1994), was of high quality, but not popular.

Basically, a lot of people seem to be fine with easily digestible crap quality stuff, so a lot of low rated stuff can still end up being popular.

 

[Phuocphuc46]

And then they probably have a time limit that any manga is allowed to be there, since it's "new titles".

One thing I'm almost certain about is that a series is only considered "new" within 30 days of its first chapter release on MangaDex. But honestly my friend, what an unfeeling algorithm consider to be "popular" REALLY isn't something you should be losing sleep over, especially not on a random Internet forum

 

[jubuttib]

One thing I'm almost certain about is that a series is only considered "new" within 30 days of its first chapter release on MangaDex. But honestly my friend, what an unfeeling algorithm consider to be "popular" REALLY isn't something you should be losing sleep over, especially not on a random Internet forum

Heh, I can assure you I'm not losing sleep over that, I have a million other things causing me insomnia for the last 30 years... =)

 

[ChiefKenzoku]

This manga is great, but you should probably stray away from it if you aren't able to come to wild conclusions like myself.

 

[MiguelH224]

need

A special room in a psych ward*

There you go, fixed it for you 👍

 

[Notaweeb1702]

Day by day and chapter after chapter I guess the mangaka is depicting what my secret desires for my partner are. Someone who knows the complete truth about me and still keeps me around no matter how worthless I am

 

[Notaweeb1702]

If she cannot be happy with a wonderful person, then does this mean she also hates herself to a point that she needs to find someone as equally miserable as her to be happy? If so, then what does it make her?

I cannot even

Someone like me

 

[deedet]

About time we destroy japan

 

[juneaneqwq]

ion like her she's mean dawg

 

[bootyboomer]

need her so bad

 

[Fukinweeb]

https://x.com/iwabajunki06/status/1708784027849932823?s=20
this got serialized lmao
absolute peak