If My Wife Became an Elementary School Student - Vol. 2 Ch. 10
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This has every flag raised for a trainwreck confrontation.
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I NEVER ASKED FOR THESE FEELINGS
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Aaaaand now we go to the live commentary of the "Mother of the mom dindu nuffin, she was a good momma who just cared about her daughter lying" crowd.
...Huh. That's odd. For some reason all I can hear is crickets.
...Huh. That's odd. For some reason all I can hear is crickets.
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Our boi husband will snap at her mother, she will get some hard facts in the face.
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Can't even hear the crickets, sounds like the world went silent.
Can't even hear the crickets, sounds like the world went silent.
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I see nothing in this chapter contradicting my statements from before. No abuse of any kind, not even implied. The only piece of information we have now that we didn't before is that the mom rarely talks with her. lol
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I see nothing in this chapter contradicting my statements from before. No abuse of any kind, not even implied. The only piece of information we have now that we didn't before is that the mom rarely talks with her. lol
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Well... everything that can go wrong, will go wrong.
"no abuse, she didn't hit her or the like"
Failed to supervise, failed to properly feed, and failed to interact...
Its called parental neglect, and it is a form of child abuse.
There are high profile case in japan where the mother failed to properly feed the child (like in this manga) and failed to supervise as she didn't realize the child is sick and then the kid dies.
The mother got jailed for child abuse in form of parental neglect for 11 years.
Its a good thing there is an adult inside the girl who can self sufficient but had it a normal girl, that girl will break much earlier than this manga protagonist
Failed to supervise, failed to properly feed, and failed to interact...
Its called parental neglect, and it is a form of child abuse.
There are high profile case in japan where the mother failed to properly feed the child (like in this manga) and failed to supervise as she didn't realize the child is sick and then the kid dies.
The mother got jailed for child abuse in form of parental neglect for 11 years.
Its a good thing there is an adult inside the girl who can self sufficient but had it a normal girl, that girl will break much earlier than this manga protagonist
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are you actually retarded?
are you actually retarded?
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Read more manga? : / Parents are out for work/wtv and just leave money on the table for dinner ALL THE TIME in slice of life stories and what have you, both in shounen and seinen series alike.
It sounds like you're making a mountain out of a molehill. Would you please give me an explicit example of what you considered neglect, moreso than what you (think you have) given me? Because I'm not seeing it.
And supervise what? Just because she talks on the phone sometimes doesn't mean she's not doing the bare minimum.
I'm guessing most of you don't have kids. You don't have to baby someone to raise them....
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Read more manga? : / Parents are out for work/wtv and just leave money on the table for dinner ALL THE TIME in slice of life stories and what have you, both in shounen and seinen series alike.
It sounds like you're making a mountain out of a molehill. Would you please give me an explicit example of what you considered neglect, moreso than what you (think you have) given me? Because I'm not seeing it.
And supervise what? Just because she talks on the phone sometimes doesn't mean she's not doing the bare minimum.
I'm guessing most of you don't have kids. You don't have to baby someone to raise them....
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@knight_evangel Aren't a lot of those examples teenagers or kids with older siblings? Very rarely do I see very young kids in manga in the same situation. And even then, the parents are usually nice when shown. Unless Takae's an unreliable narrator, it's pretty clear that we're supposed to see her mother in a negative light. A lot of fighting leading to a nasty divorce with her mother seemingly losing interest in her as a daughter? Combine that with the alcohol and going out on flings every now and then, and it's not a good look for a parent even if no physical abuse is present.
The situation's more complicated than it seems. Takae can't just run away with her old family without the latter facing legal trouble. But looking at it from the audience perspective, it's pretty clear that she's safer with them than with her mother unless the latter changes her ways.
The situation's more complicated than it seems. Takae can't just run away with her old family without the latter facing legal trouble. But looking at it from the audience perspective, it's pretty clear that she's safer with them than with her mother unless the latter changes her ways.
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@knight_evangel Dude, she left her 500 yen, that's basically nothing and she only managed to make it work due to actually being an adult woman. A child wouldn't be able to do shit with that money.
Also, it was shown this chapter that she ignores her daughter and leaves her alone an unsupervised to go get fucked by random assholes, that's definitely fucking neglect. Children aren't fucking machines, just throwing money at them isn't enough for them to be raised properly. A parent who has to work all the time to provide for his family can be excused but this fucking bitch isn't doing that. Plus her treatment of her is extremely antagonistic and hostile, the kind of thing that would traumatize her if she was an actual kid.
If you think this shit is okay then I hope you never have children.
Also, it was shown this chapter that she ignores her daughter and leaves her alone an unsupervised to go get fucked by random assholes, that's definitely fucking neglect. Children aren't fucking machines, just throwing money at them isn't enough for them to be raised properly. A parent who has to work all the time to provide for his family can be excused but this fucking bitch isn't doing that. Plus her treatment of her is extremely antagonistic and hostile, the kind of thing that would traumatize her if she was an actual kid.
If you think this shit is okay then I hope you never have children.
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@Acolytus Five bucks can get me a lot where I stay. Do you stay in New York or something? : /
@Tersione I don't think the narration is meant to be looked at so strictly... Also, I (personally) didn't see implication of alcoholism, which is the only point (IMO) when it'd start to be a problem, though I realize that being a drinker at all when you're a single parent is a slippery slope, so if that's what you're mainly concerned about I can understand. That's something that can become really black&white depending on who you talk to.
I do think that the narration is leading towards Takae's side, but I'm against naively assessing the situation when we're only given small glimpses and narration that's more melodramatic than sinister in terms of family life. I grew up with plenty of kids who's parents (not all of them had both) worked 3rd shift. They'd come home from school to a grandma(likely asleep) or an uncle who might stop by. For dinner you eat the leftovers or you go out for fast food.
Also Japan is not America. The idea of a 5th grader WALKING to or from home at 7PM is seen very differently in the west because the USA has a much higher crime rate, this anti-crime anxiety exists even in the suburbs where the impact isn't as bad. I know that seeing "culture difference" in comment sections is becoming a meme lately but this is actually a real thing. Japan is much safer, so your idea of neglect might need adjustment before you judge when supervision is needed.
EDIT: Oh and P.S. This last bit is more of a personal thing so you can ignore it if you want, but having a "nice" parent is less of a standard and more of a privilege, I hate to say.
I get the feeling I'm not the only one who reads manga with "mean parents" sometimes and find myself thinking "Huh, bout time I see one of those.". As if every human has an equal amount of kindness in their heart (trust me, there are naturally mean people out there) and unfortunately when said person goes through divorce it will affect them just as negatively as it would any other human. and parenting is a skill (unfortunately) you certainly can miss the memo on things. For all we know, Takae's mom might have learned this from her own mother, and her intentions aren't as awful as you think they are...of course that's a maybe though. ; )
Welp, this line convinced me you are indeed making a mountain out of a molehill. Whether you're creating headcanon or you're reading into silent panels too much is a mystery I don't care to solve. Either way, you seem to have a lot of anger about this. I hope whoever has done something bad to you doesn't affect you for much longer, my dude. That is a lot of aggression for a first reply in an exchange. lol
@Tersione I don't think the narration is meant to be looked at so strictly... Also, I (personally) didn't see implication of alcoholism, which is the only point (IMO) when it'd start to be a problem, though I realize that being a drinker at all when you're a single parent is a slippery slope, so if that's what you're mainly concerned about I can understand. That's something that can become really black&white depending on who you talk to.
I do think that the narration is leading towards Takae's side, but I'm against naively assessing the situation when we're only given small glimpses and narration that's more melodramatic than sinister in terms of family life. I grew up with plenty of kids who's parents (not all of them had both) worked 3rd shift. They'd come home from school to a grandma(likely asleep) or an uncle who might stop by. For dinner you eat the leftovers or you go out for fast food.
Also Japan is not America. The idea of a 5th grader WALKING to or from home at 7PM is seen very differently in the west because the USA has a much higher crime rate, this anti-crime anxiety exists even in the suburbs where the impact isn't as bad. I know that seeing "culture difference" in comment sections is becoming a meme lately but this is actually a real thing. Japan is much safer, so your idea of neglect might need adjustment before you judge when supervision is needed.
EDIT: Oh and P.S. This last bit is more of a personal thing so you can ignore it if you want, but having a "nice" parent is less of a standard and more of a privilege, I hate to say.
I get the feeling I'm not the only one who reads manga with "mean parents" sometimes and find myself thinking "Huh, bout time I see one of those.". As if every human has an equal amount of kindness in their heart (trust me, there are naturally mean people out there) and unfortunately when said person goes through divorce it will affect them just as negatively as it would any other human. and parenting is a skill (unfortunately) you certainly can miss the memo on things. For all we know, Takae's mom might have learned this from her own mother, and her intentions aren't as awful as you think they are...of course that's a maybe though. ; )
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