Oh poor he! Lemme quickly sign up for a dating app so I can get victimised.
Two of the times he got his heart broken, it happened without any of the girls' involvement
A victim of being yelled at. Damn.
Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi o Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.6 - My Happy Date (Normal Version)
- Thread starter MangaDex
- Start date
Two of the times he got his heart broken, it happened without any of the girls' involvement
I mean, I already know that Yuu haters are braindead, no need to confirm it. Thanks, I guess.
Glad to be of help.
That, sir, is a libel. I don't hate Yuu, because in order for him to invoke any emotional response from me, he needs to be something, and he is nothing, and that's exactly what I feel about him as a character. Nothing.
But given your heated response, I surmise you're a Yuu lover? To what extent are you a Yuu lover? Do you have a Yuu poster on the wall? How big is your collection of Yuu pictures in your hidden folder?
You dull motherfuckers start throwing insults at the slightest hints of being argued with, I am not sure what gives you the feeling of having a higher intellectual ground, especially the way you just folded and ejected yourself from this argument.
You were clearly ragebaiting. I refuse to believe that anyone would genuinely believe what you said. Claiming that what Yami did to Yuu was no big deal. That it's the same as being ignored on a dating app. It's so absurd that it doesnt even warrant an explanation for any sane human. But nonetheless here you are, crashing out in response to me calling you dumb for it lmao. That means you were serious. Yall are wild hahahaa
Let's get this straight.
A guy being led on for months, made to believe that he was loved, abruptly ghosted, having his heart broken, then, after he very maturely moves on, having the chick show up to his school festival, assault him physically and sexually, gaslight him and blame him, specifically in front of his crush to ruin his new relationship. That's all A OK and is to be expected of any guy to endure. It's no problemo.
But a guy missing an appointment with his crush and not directly explaining that he was violently assaulted by a crazy ex that broke his heart? Biggest villain in the series, straight to the gallows.
This is what so many readers of this manga unironically believe, it's hilarious xD
Last edited:
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Jan 6, 2020
- Messages
- 2,048
Yeah he was assaulted, that’s why he didn’t push her back immediately when she kissed him, also why he said she side nothing wrong when he spoke to Hikari’s friends. I can agree that she kissed him first but you can’t say she assaulted him.
You can’t blame Hikari for seeing things she shouldn’t have seen, it’s not her damn fault. She saw it and got hurt by it. Yuu saw she wasn’t in her right state and kept going. His fault.
Also I read your other posts, saying that the people who don’t agree with you are brain dead is worst argument ever made.
It was made very fucking clear that he didnt return that kiss. Yall are straight up victim blaming here. "Hehe why didnt she fight him off" type energy. How thickly does the author have to lay it on to yall to realize that what Yami did was fucked up? It's not enough that she ghosted him, it's not enough that she returned and blamed him, not enough that she slapped him, not enough that she deliberately and forcibly kissed him in front of Hikari. It's all no big deal and it's Yuu's fault huh? No assault happened, just normal behavior? Why? Because he didnt slap her back? He clearly didnt return that kiss.
Unlike Yuu, she knew everything about what had happened. She knew about how Yami had treated him. We're shown that she talked to her afterwards. So she saw that he was assaulted by his ex. Instead of showing her support to the person that she supposedly loves, she chooses to coldly walk away from his confession, not trying to hear him out, just because he didnt immediately tell her about the incredibly traumatic and personal experience that happened to him just a couple of hours before that. Something that he didnt know she saw.
She has had the entire series to confess her love to him, but she cant even give him the benefit of the doubt and try to understand him after he was clearly hurt right in front of her? I like Hikari, but how in the world can you pin this blame on Yuu here?
When someone is victim blaming and literally comparing what happened to Yuu to "just like being rejected on a dating app," I think it's an incredibly apt description of that person. Sorry, not sorry. Did you even read his argument? Oh well, I supppose you would agree anyway.
Here's what he said in case you're blind.
Honestly, what you said about him "not fighting back" was worse, so I guess these are wasted words.
I would laugh if only this was ragebait. But it's so clearly not that it hurts.
Last edited:
I use the strictest definition of victimhood, which is when one's rights are violated. Otherwise it all turns into semantic games where you can call your opponent any insults you see fit for not considering a drawn character a victim according to your personal definition of victimhood. Which is a very mature thing to do. Now which insults do I use on someone who considers a guy who took advantage of a vulnerable and traumatised girl and had sex with her a victim in that situation?
In all but one instance, when Yuu was focribly kissed by Yami, his rights were not violated. Access to Yami's pussy is not Yuu's right, on the other hand, Yami choosing not to associate with Yuu for whatever reason is her right.
Yuu not wanting to tell Hikari about his relationships, past or present, and otherwise be lying to her, is his right, but so it is Hikari's right of not wanting to pursue a relationship with him.
In all but one instance, when Yuu was focribly kissed by Yami, his rights were not violated. Access to Yami's pussy is not Yuu's right, on the other hand, Yami choosing not to associate with Yuu for whatever reason is her right.
Yuu not wanting to tell Hikari about his relationships, past or present, and otherwise be lying to her, is his right, but so it is Hikari's right of not wanting to pursue a relationship with him.
As I was saying, a doormat. It takes two to tango, and the guy spent the whole duration of their relationship being led on.
I think that being led on and ghosted after a many months of a relationship makes you a victim.
A victim of ill-treatment. It's a pretty basic definition.
In addition to being led on, ghosted and lied to, he has also been physically assaulted and forcibly kissed against his will in front of his crush in order to ruin his confession night.
Now, I understand that you are unable to compute that these are in any way harmful acts, perhaps because Yuu is a guy and because you are physically incapable of seeing fault in your queen Yami, but any normal person would be able to see that.
You admit that he was harmed, but you blame him for it. Victim blaming. Also curious that you admit this, yet claim that Yami was a poor defenseless victim in all of this. Maybe rub some brain cells together and consider what you're saying.
Ah yes, so this also makes sense. You're a Yami simp so, despite her literally starting a sexual relationship with Yuu to, I quote, "ruin him and his innocent romance," you see it as Yuu taking advantage of her. Throughout this entire series, you see Yami as a victim of Yuu for having a relationship with him that she instigated, yet you are here arguing with me about Yuu not being a victim of her when she literally assaults him?
The person that has routinely and actively harmed her friends, who dragged an innocent boy to a love hotel to "ruin him," a boy who thought she genuinely loved him. The person who admits to using him for her own hedonistic pleasure only. The person who ghosts him afterwards, gaslights him and assaults him in front of his crush.
Versus the guy who wanted to have a serious and loving relationship with her, who took her abuse and even now still worries about her well-being. Who never overstepped boundaries, who never hit her, never forced her to do anything.
She is the victim of him, you say? He took advantage of her? Now, tell me, in what world can a person who thinks this after having read this manga be called anything other than mentally challenged?
I'm sorry, it's all my fault. I should never have expected a Yuu hater/Yami simp to be literate or have even the most basic sense. My bad. I should have known this after all of these months ever since Yami was introduced and reading those comment sections. People like this are quite literally hopeless. I guess it just never fails to flabbergast me. I suppose it must be some fetish thing.
Last edited:
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Jan 6, 2020
- Messages
- 2,048
If he was assaulted, why would he be defending her against everyone saying she’s shit ? He ain’t not victim.
There’s nothing clear about him being assaulted, you’re just delusional. She kissed him and started crying after saying goodbye. He answered she was unfair and started crying too. What a big assault lol. And Hikari didn’t see it.
And Hikari only knows Yami loved Yuu. She took everything she said as lies, only retaining that they loved each other. So no, when she remembers about the kiss, she doesn’t see her friend assault the man she loves, she sees a kiss between people who love(d?) each other. Very different.
Throwing out big words like victim blaming sure sounds cool, well if it had sense it would be better imo.
Damn, my first argument is the only one I really need, Yuu is still defending Yami after all of this, while saying Hikari will be fine, as if he only cares about Yami… or is it that he also has a Stockholm syndrome ?
Oh yeah, because no victim has ever defended their abuser before /s. Note that this incident is literally after months of ghosting from his first girlfriend, someone who routinely lied to him during their relationship and who used him for her own pleasure. Abuse is exactly the right word to use for how Yami has treated Yuu.
I mean, I get it, you think Yami is perfect and that Yuu is the devil, so you would probably not even consider her slitting his throat to be assault. But she did assault him. And she did kiss him after he was about to leave her. I think it's clear that he never welcomed this kiss. He never returned her kiss. He was only stunned and sad after having been yelled at, hit and forcibly kissed when he never asked for any of it.
She was present at the door, hearing Yami yell all kinds of shit at him. She could hear the slap. And, most importantly, she talked to Yami afterwards, learning what a piece of shit Yami was to him.
She hears how Yami talks about him, lies or not, she knows how she has treated him, she heard their exchange. Yet, she is more worried about letting Yami be happy with Yuu than the fact that she is clearly abusive towards him. She knows that Yami is lying to herself, but she also knows that Yami is hurting Yuu. She literally admonishes her for it. And she is clearly struggling with being honest with herself, knowing that she doesnt want Yuu to be taken by Yami.
Here's how she is treating this, after finding all of this out:
The fact still remains, that in literally all of this, only Yuu has been victimized by the other two. Yami, for obvious reasons already stated, and Hikari for not looking out for him and coldly rejecting him, knowing what he went through, literally pushing him onto the ground. He has done NOTHING to either of them.
I said this as a joke:
Yall literally proved me right. I've changed my mind, I'm impressed with the determination yall have to stick to your love for this Yami character. Even after being shown unequivocally horrible actions from her to the point that pretty much no one is able to defend her actions anymore, yall still stick to it. Though, I guess it comes down to directing hate towards Yuu instead to avoid speaking about the Yami sized elephant in the room, because she is impossible to defend at this point.
I know that me writing this all down is pointless. Even if Yami murdered his entire family and if Hikari spat in his face because he was sad over it, yall would still find a reason to claim that he is the one at fault and they did nothing wrong. That's just how yall operate, I've seen it before. But it is impressive, just how far yall are willing to go to keep this delusion alive after being shown just how terrible Yami is.
Last edited:
cant we all just happily indulge in the warmth of this dumpster fire? Sure it's trashy but it's mine
Cheering for Yami btw. Her and invisigal make me question my mental wellness bc the appeal of the "I can fix her" or "she can ruin me" is just too strong
Cheering for Yami btw. Her and invisigal make me question my mental wellness bc the appeal of the "I can fix her" or "she can ruin me" is just too strong
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Apr 5, 2018
- Messages
- 857
.
By that point he also knew Aya was her best friend. Also, not warning Hikari that his ex goes to her school and therefore there could be a blow up at the festival isn't exactly friend of year material. I dunno about the folks defending Yuu, but I warn my friends if they could be stepping into my drama.
Hikari didn't like him yet so not really?
ETA: Also I don't think that Aya intentionally led him on. Like not trying to justify the ghosting at all,or blame Yuu for not seeing the red flags, but there are multiple times Aya makes it known that she thinks Yuu thinks it's casual - when she offered to be his convenient woman, when she asks if what he misses about her is sex, when she tells him to go fall in love w/ someone else. If anything, she ghosts him b/c she thinks he isn't (that) in love with her b/c he's never considered moving in w/ her (which one of the recent side chapters apparently has her apartment hunting b/f her mom's suicide attempt).
By that point he also knew Aya was her best friend. Also, not warning Hikari that his ex goes to her school and therefore there could be a blow up at the festival isn't exactly friend of year material. I dunno about the folks defending Yuu, but I warn my friends if they could be stepping into my drama.
Hikari didn't like him yet so not really?
How was chapter 41 Hikari letting Aya off scot free?
More than that, Yuu understood that Yami was playing games with him, told her she always lied and all, but decided that he didn't have the right to call her out on it b/c she's broken.
ETA: Also I don't think that Aya intentionally led him on. Like not trying to justify the ghosting at all,or blame Yuu for not seeing the red flags, but there are multiple times Aya makes it known that she thinks Yuu thinks it's casual - when she offered to be his convenient woman, when she asks if what he misses about her is sex, when she tells him to go fall in love w/ someone else. If anything, she ghosts him b/c she thinks he isn't (that) in love with her b/c he's never considered moving in w/ her (which one of the recent side chapters apparently has her apartment hunting b/f her mom's suicide attempt).
Last edited:
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Aug 15, 2024
- Messages
- 800
I don’t blame the author for the long breaks. It’s hard to wake up every day and go to work in the trash mines
Contributor
- Joined
- Oct 1, 2020
- Messages
- 435
Sometimes I have to wonder if I'm reading the same comic as everyone else. The fact that the ppl leaving comments on this thread have real lives and jobs and families, but post such coal text walls over pointless shit is mind blowing to me.
The hilarious thing about this series is that Hikari fans and Yuu fans both want the same thing. Yuu fans want his character to have nothing to do with Hikari, and Hikari fans want her to have nothing to do with Yuu. So glad all of us can agree on that at least. All characters suck here.
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Apr 5, 2018
- Messages
- 857
I mostly post here to procrastinate on the long blocks of text I have to write in real life. I like having no stakes stuff to balance out the stuff that matters.
Didnt you ask for people to turn up the volume on the comments lmao. These texts dont take much out of my time and certainly dont stop me from also working and living a life. Enjoying manga, arguing about manga, it's all part of my recreation.
IMO, it's one thing to enjoy a dumpster fire, but it gets a bit more serious when people genuinely victim blame and express pretty terrible values. Such as downplaying abuse and assault, claiming that the victim was wrong because they "didnt fight back" or "let themselves be led on." All while claiming that the perpetrator was the real victim. It's backwards af.
Someone joking and saying "I can fix Yami" is lighthearted fun. Nothing wrong with liking a flawed character, as long as you treat her as such. Someone saying "Yami did nothing wrong and her victim is actually at fault" is decidedly less fun. The manga is fake, it's just a story. But the people claiming these things are real and actually think like this.
I usually stay out of these conversations, after all of those months of Yami simping with an overwhelming amount of people engaging in similar victim blaming and excusing Yami's behavior, but I think it's important to sometimes call it out and genuinely iron out the facts that we've been shown in the manga so far. When people love a character, whether it be for a fetish or whatever reason, it's easy to be blind to what's actually being written.
Last edited:
Similar threads
