Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi o Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 43 - The Pride of the Lecturing Girls

[sw9ne]

It's crazy people are trying to blame the male mc. He literally did nothing wrong. He broke up with her before the fmc and ex even met.

Hikaru doesn't owe him anything. If she doesn't want to go out with him because she hates his guts for lying to her then that's entirely her right. Also he never broke up with Yami. Yami ghosted him and now he's still obsessed over her while he's trying to use Hikari as a rebound.

 

[peortega1]

Hikaru doesn't owe him anything. If she doesn't want to go out with him because she hates his guts for lying to her then that's entirely her right. Also he never broke up with Yami. Yami ghosted him and now he's still obsessed over her while he's trying to use Hikari as a rebound.

She owed him at least protect him as her supposed best friend. And she stayed paralyzed in the door as a fool girl while Yuu was slapped by Yami
Good for you if you want friends who let you die in the worst moment

 

[peortega1]

And as I said before, other reason behind my thesis of Ayami Sudo being an expy of Ai Kamiya is the ridicuously androginous tomboy that she is. Literally with her short hair and appearance, she only needs use pants instead a skirt, and you have perfectly a boy.
Ayami is literally the incarnation of the trope of tomboy athletic girlfriend with big breasts hidden under the clothes... exactly as Ai Kamiya and Miyako Shikimori, the two "the prince who saved Yuu Izumi".
This is also the reason why Hikari being an Eriri Expy replaces her talented otaku nature by a tomboyish athletic girl.
Shikimori-san is not just a cutie probably was the inspiration of Maruto to this... exploration of gender roles and role-reversal, already implicit in several moments of White Album 2 and Saekano, but coming to a new level.

 

[kiero13]

what load of bullshit.

yami's wrong for ghosting him, for manipulating the situation by kissing yuu while knowing hikari's plan and being there to see it. she's too drunk on self loathing and self pity.

yuu's fault is being lazy, coward and selfish. he acts to make people see him as a kind person but he does so without thinking of the consequences of his words and actions. none of this would have happened had he had the courage to talk things out with hikari, and if he just think before speaking when he was in a relationship with yami.

hikari's fault is being ignorant and kind. she really should just move on from these people and cut them off.

if we're gonna talk about who's at fault in the situation their in, its obviously yami and yuu. yuu started it, yami worsened it. but of course the author will just glance over it, make the characters forgive and everyone gets to live happily ever after as yuu's harem lmao

 

[Starbright]

My thoughts exactly, he did not once think about Hikari's feelings at all, even though he is claiming that he loves her. It's more that he is loving the version of her in his head.

Yup seems to be shaping up to be more realistic story of the pitfalls of youthful love

 

[peortega1]

Yuu's words about Hikari are, and I'm not surprised, too ambiguous. They fit both with the fact that he was able to talk to her and open up about his relationship with Yami, and with the fact that Hikari is deliberately avoiding him and doesn't want to talk or even see him.
I think Yuu managed to talk to Hikari and tell her everything, which is why he seems so calm about her and is primarily concerned about Yami, who, based on the words of his friends, confirmed that they are worried about her disappearance.
That, or he tried to go look for Hikari at her house and she rejected him and refused to see him, or she simply runs away from home when he shows up. Like Kazusa did with Haruki in WA2.
But we know him well enough to know that he at least made some attempt to talk to Hikari. Or she went looking for Yuu. Hell, they're neighbors. If the guy was able to act like a stalker by going to pick up Yami at her school (yes, WN confirmed he really did it), I definitely see him at least trying to see Hikari.
That's why he seems so calm and confident about her, whether he was able to talk to her or not. If he was able to talk to her, they've already made some kind of agreement to try and save Yami and leave in stand-by the confession, or something like that. Once again, let's not underestimate Hikari's savior complex.
Hikari was precisely the first to defend the theory of "Aya-chan did nothing wrong" in chapter 41.

 

[peortega1]

It seems like Yuu left out the whole sex part, or at least tiptoed around it as much as possible, again. Which reinforces my theory about it (even if Haru and Yuki are probably already realizing that Yuu is the protagonist of Yami’s detailed sex stories). He definitely doesn’t like talking about his sexual intimacy (which fits with his shy personality, and yes, with him being an Expy of both Yuu Izumi & Haruki Kitahara), and if he hid anything about his relationship with Yami, it was undoubtedly that - and he’s right, both of them could go to jail for going ilegally into love hotels when they were underage, even more so if my theory that someone at the hotel called Yuu’s parents and Ayami’s mother when they saw them having sex in chapter 28 is true.

 

[Starbright]

Mad respect for Yuu for not villainizing Ayami lol. Btw, like, what?

Some people saying he does not truely love Hikari because he deffenses Ayami? Can't he care about her because she's mentally unstable or something? He is just a nice person,

in a self blaming period. Dudes need a day off.

Think like some others said yuu has an idealistic view of how strong he assumes Hikari is and he knows yami is a weak fragile person thats why he's giving her more care

 

[peortega1]

Hikari seems pretty consistent in that the thing she's mad/hurt about is that two of her most precious people kept something this important from her.

Again, Yuu kept this from her for 60 minutes / 2 hours as much. And he definitely believed Hikari didn´t see the kiss. Even if, yes, he should have said to her that "Aya-chan" was his ex-girlfriend.
Hikari is guilty too, in less extent than Yuu, but guilty too, for don´t ask for the kiss and expecting Yuu would be able to magically read her mind when he literally asked her if she felt bad and saying they could go to home in that moment before the dance

 

[peortega1]

I think Yuu not facing his inferiority complex is what he did wrong, like she's his best friend and he doesn't ever mention "oh, I have/had a girlfriend" ? I think he was ashamed of what he was doing with Yami.

Yuu was and is not ashamed from Ayami in the most minimum, Yami precisely accuses him to try to convert her in a "good remembrance"
And well, the same supposely "best friend" who didn´t even care about the school choice of Yuu and his plans to try to get the exam of the same school from her... in the omake chapters of Yuu there is a scene where he openly says to Hikari "I don´t remember you was interested on my academical future before" and she only can responds "now is different"
Definitely fully understable while he was not feel comfortable to talk with her about a rememberings very painful to him

 

[gmkgoat]

That’s right, Yuu-kun. Yami did nothing wrong.

 

[peortega1]

none of this would have happened had he had the courage to talk things out with hikari

The part of all this happening only because Hikari came late again to confess Yuu when she was planning to confess him at least from Carnival in February-March (chapters 10-11) you forget conveniently, not?
She is as coward as him and even worse, but of course, she is a girl, she can be coward, but he cannot be coward because he is a boy, it isn´t?

 

[kiero13]

The part of all this happening only because Hikari came late again to confess Yuu when she was planning to confess him at least from Carnival in February-March (chapters 10-11) you forget conveniently, not?
She is as coward as him and even worse, but of course, she is a girl, she can be coward, but he cannot be coward because he is a boy, it isn´t?

and why should it be hikari to confess first? when it was yuu who started liking her first?

if he had the balls to confess rather than just hoping to pass entrance exams and being depressed about it then maybe it'd spark her feelings a little earlier.

then when she started liking him, he was cold to a fault. keeping his relationship with yami a secret. again, her fault was being ignorant. he changed yet she didn't think further of why.

at least hikari had the vag to confess on their 2nd year, the same year that she liked him. compared to yuu who had like >4 years of feelings for her.

 

[sw9ne]

Funny how even the characters acknowledge how this is all Yuu's fault for being a dumbass and failing his entrance exams.

 

[Joseki]

The way this story is being written, the only 2 outcomes possible are:
1. Yuu x Aya
2. No pairing at all

Everyone is too sympathetic and understanding of Aya to not be a way for the author to clear up the way for a re-connection with Yuu.

 

[UdenEmpati]

He already does since she's the only one at his school.


I wonder if it's a nuance lost in translation - more like everyone bears some responsibility for the situation but nobody intentionally meant to cause it. (Unlike something like cheating or stealing).

that's how I read it. It's not "fault" so much as the collective actions of all three are the only way the resulting situation arises, but no one is "the villain" among them.

People will point fingers at one of the three and state their case as to why that one is "deserves the most blame", but ultimately, this exact scenario doesn't arise without each of their participation (or lack thereof!) throughout the entire story we've been given.

 

[Starbright]

that's how I read it. It's not "fault" so much as the collective actions of all three are the only way the resulting situation arises, but no one is "the villain" among them.

People will point fingers at one of the three and state their case as to why that one is "deserves the most blame", but ultimately, this exact scenario doesn't arise without each of their participation (or lack thereof!) throughout the entire story we've been given.

Not really yami literally plotted things to go to sh!t with her bipolar nature though she had some moments of genuinely wanting good but usually only after messing something up

 

[peortega1]

and why should it be hikari to confess first? when it was yuu who started liking her first?

Because he would be securely rejected by Hikari, she herself confirms us in chapter 17. She didn´t love him in middle school, PERIOD. And yes, Hikari starts to feel love with Yuu is AFTER him starting a relationship with Yami. So, Yami was right, without her, Hikari never would have looked Yuu.

if he had the balls to confess rather than just hoping to pass entrance exams and being depressed about it then maybe it'd spark her feelings a little earlier.

Because he tried before and failed it. All the fucking school knew about his feelings for Hikari, but she didn´t.

then when she started liking him, he was cold to a fault. keeping his relationship with yami a secret. again, her fault was being ignorant. he changed yet she didn't think further of why.

She started to being close with him again is AFTER the Yami ghosting. The boy was heartbroken and passing his grief phase, this is the reason why he seemed so "cold". In the web novel Maruto confirms us Yuu was literally thinking in never love again during those first months. Anyone would be depressed after breaking with you first girlfriend who literally deflowered you.

at least hikari had the vag to confess on their 2nd year, the same year that she liked him. compared to yuu who had like >4 years of feelings for her.

She never confessed in 2nd year, if you forgot it. She was coward again in the truth moment saying she wanted to return home after create all the romantic atmosphere in the gym, and that was the point where Yuu decided "is now or never, I prefer being rejected now than never say nothing"

 

[Kimochi-kun]

Lol love how they point out he only cared about Yami. Literally only focus was Yami.

What's with the he's been with her since childhood so he trusts her? The fuck is that? Just cause you trust someone doesn't mean you can't be worried about them. At this point Yuu and Yami should just get together and leave Hikari the fuck alone.

WHY ARE ALL OF THESE CHARACTERS SO ASS (except Hikari just cause).

Exactly

It felt like the author and editor put some effort on this chapter, to focuses on Yami Yami and Yami, and downplaying everything Hikari felt and went through.

Come on man, sure she can act like an annoying Tsundere but on this conflict, she didn't really do anything wrong.

 

[mug3n]

To both MrPerson0 and Riazuri - I think Yuu does love Hikari, but he's loved her for so long and idolized her for so long that he's not paying attention as much to the girl she truly is. Also, I think he can love Hikari but still be concerned for Yami. Just because he still cares about Yami doesn't mean his love for Hikari is less.

There is the other part some of us have been saying for a while of him recognizing in the end his feelings for Yami are stronger in the end. Despite of making jokes of Hikari leaving the ball of negativity these 2 are and flying free, I genuely think Yuu and Yami are a better match given how way more easily they could confide in one another. But yeah, you can do both things, I don't know why everything has to be binary.