Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi o Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 43 - The Pride of the Lecturing Girls

[peortega1]

I will post two or three pages of the new extra chapter in Spanish. Also, IMO this chapter reinforces my thesis of Ayami being an Expy of Ai Kamiya from Shikimori-san, and sharing basically the same background of a popular cool girl, admired by everyone but without real friends, lonely and isolated
And of course, an already dark emo girl with edgy thoughts
In other words, she probably would have fall in love with Yuu even without the abussive step-father, like Kamiya did with Izumi, and for the same reasons. The attempt of rape was just the way Maruto used to make them a couple and have sex so ridicuously fast
And again, these are communication problems the main problem of both Ayami and Kamiya personalities and the reason behind her problems to interact with other people

 

[peortega1]

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[story645]

That's fair, but the difference is that at school you more or less consistently keep using the knowledge acquired before

Seems like Yuu wouldn't have been using the material he learned for the exam in class the month or so between exams and school starting, and that's enough time for it to fall out of his head. Especially if it's a subject he didn't score spectacularly well on in the entrance exam.

Eh? Where does this come from?

For me, Yuu's previous thought

If I manage to get into the same high school as her, even someone as oblivious as Hikari is bound to realize.
...That I’ve been chasing after her all this time.

If he's confessing than it shouldn't matter if she realizes he likes her b/c the confession should do the trick. So I take this to mean he wants Hikari to finally look at him/see him, playing off his previous POV chapters where Hikari's "rejections" are her not recognizing he's in love w/ her. Also b/c the thing that finally causes Yuu to make a move is Hikari being proactive.

But if he went "I saw that you didn't care about me at all",

That'd contradict him saying he wasn't sure if it was that kind of feeling. Which start of this convo establishes mixed signals, so he could have just gone straight to her weird sense of distance.

Hikari: "You thought I wasn’t thinking about you at all, Ta-kun?"
Yuu: "I didn’t think it was nothing, but... I wasn’t sure if it was that kind of feeling."
Hikari: "Come on! Ta-kun, seriously, you have no confidence!"
Yuu: "But it’s you, Hikari! Do you really think I'm good enough for you!?"
Hikari: "I do!"
Yuu: "That’s just you being mistaken! No one knows how amazing you are better than I do!"

ETA: feel like I should admit I kinda get where your argument comes from, but in a Hikari being too good for him is the excuse Yuu hides behind for not gathering the courage to ask her out/face rejection. Though that means it's still a thing he believes on some level.

I'm mostly keeping this convo going b/c I find it amusing that usually you express exasperation when I go meta but here you're arguing that Yuu is lying when he explicitly tells Hikari he's telling the truth.

 

[GennArc]

If he's confessing than it shouldn't matter if she realizes he likes her b/c the confession should do the trick.

It matters because he wanted her to see him as a boy, not just as a friend. If the confession comes from just-a-friend, it's still hopeless.

That'd contradict him saying he wasn't sure if it was that kind of feeling.

That was him talking about the last year, while "I saw that you didn't care about me at all" would be about how it used to be in middle school. So I don't think there'd be any contradiction.

I'm mostly keeping this convo going b/c I find it amusing that usually you express exasperation when I go meta but here you're arguing that Yuu is lying when he explicitly tells Hikari he's telling the truth.

This isn't really meta because we're still talking about characters and their thoughts, not about narratives and what the author wanted to show.
But I admit this is where I'm on a shaky ground since it's mostly based on indirect arguments, not on explicit words or thoughts. On the other hand, I can't agree that we can rely on Yuu saying that he was telling the truth. Not in the dialogue where he gets accused of lying and where we know he was hiding a lot of stuff.

 

[story645]

Not in the dialogue where he gets accused of lying and where we know he was hiding a lot of stuff.

Yuu's characterization though is that he's generally evasive rather- the only direct lie we know about is going to the hotel w/ Aya & that makes sense in context.

To me it reads as out of character for him to acknowledge that he's hiding stuff while also lying so emphatically about telling the truth:

"Look, I might not have told you everything I feel, but what I just said... every word of it was true."

If the confession comes from just-a-friend, it's still hopeless.

So long as she doesn't like him, it's a confession from just a friend whether she realizes he likes her or not. That's why I think he was hoping the exam would lead to reciprocation.

So I don't think there'd be any contradiction.

It would be though b/c Hikari's comment about confidence (the one he's responding to) is in response to his wasn't sure. Where do you get that she's changing the time frame w/ her "lack confidence?"

 

[iamsean]

Came to read everybody's thoughts. Ended up seeing some of you spend over a week sperg in here. God I love this series, brings out the degens.

 

[GennArc]

Yuu's characterization though is that he's generally evasive rather- the only direct lie we know about is going to the hotel w/ Aya & that makes sense in context.

What about him saying that his phone battery died? Or him straight up denying that he likes Hikari when asked by Yami in famires in ch. 23? He’s not as habitual a liar as Yami, but he does lie occasionally.

So long as she doesn't like him, it's a confession from just a friend whether she realizes he likes her or not.

Recognizing him as a boy makes a difference. Like, if she still doesn't think of him as of a boy, that would mean she still wouldn't even consider him as someone she could be attracted to.

That's why I think he was hoping the exam would lead to reciprocation.

Once you phrase it like this, I agree. Of course he hoped she would reciprocate. But I disagree that he had confidence she would, and that he viewed the exam as a way to "get on her level".

It would be though b/c Hikari's comment about confidence (the one he's responding to) is in response to his wasn't sure. Where do you get that she's changing the time frame w/ her "lack confidence?"

I thought we were talking about the hypothetical where he'd tell her about why he didn't confess in the past:

I didn't mean just Hikari: he'd have to tell how he used that opportunity which his friend created when they were young, about his own heartbreaks etc. And no, I'm sure even sounding like he's blaming Hikari is miles more uncomfortable than just going with his usual line of "you're out of my league", he does have a low self-esteem so saying lines like this doesn't really hurt.

Maybe we've just dived too deep into this topic and got lost.

Came to read everybody's thoughts. Ended up seeing some of you spend over a week sperg in here. God I love this series, brings out the degens.

Over a week? More like over 3 weeks mate. You're welcome.