Is mangadex becoming more toxic?

[Aichan]

I didn't notice when things started to change, but I can still recall the days when we could all laugh together despite the content of the manga or our comments. But this week alone, I've been personally attacked twice. Not argument regarding differing opinions or debate on human values but personal attacks. I'm sure that I am not alone in this either as I have seen many times when some people would viciously attack others for seemingly minor disagreements.

I will give you an example of what just happened to me. This was what I said:

Why did you have to burn her? Just accept her love and make her more moderate in her love. All she needs is her brother's love. Love her instead of being afraid of her.

That being said, now she's ugly, scary and evil-looking, even Ai-chan would run away. Though if Ai-chan loves her previously, Ai-chan would probably stay and try to find her a good healing magician or something.

His reply was this. I will not say who it was as that could lead to public lynching, but if you read that manga, you probably already knew who it was.

are you stupid? First,why should like his sister when he doesn't feel that way. Second, she murdered the people close to him, if I were him I'd want to get the fuck out of her sight and hop at least to another continent. Third of all, you can't just "make" her more moderate. What the fuck does that even mean, tame her? I genuinely wish you met someone like that and had your friends and the people you care about murdered in front of you, and then you can tell us why he should accept her.

Now, I can accept differing views and can even tolerate insults to an extent, but why would you wish this on someone you've never met who was simply commenting to a manga in good humour? Did I kill his mother so much so that he wish someone I care get murdered? I'm sure you think that I'm over reacting and you're probably right. But in my culture, every word is a prayer and he actually directly wish that someone I care for get murdered in front of me.

I tried to not escalate things most times, but sometimes it's just too preposterous. As much as I could, I either ignore or report such toxic comments whether directed at me or others, but this is happening quite a lot these days, regardless of whether actions were taken or not.

This doesn't happen all the time, but the occurences it's happening is getting more frequent. Not specifically to me, but I see this happen a lot these days. Did any of you notice this? How did we come to this?

 

[Yushino]

hmm same for me too..I don't really comment, rather I just notice it in the comments but I guess maybe it's cause this site is becoming more popular and so it can attract some quite toxic people

 

[MawMaw]

hey alright, nice 200 words essay bitch.
and thanks.

 

[hazzack]

@mawmaw oi that's not nice.

 

[__nil]

It's inevitable. Don't take it to heart.

And @MawMaw lmaooo iconic can I be your friend

 

[Xaelath]

Internet have always been a toxic place to live

 

[Yatsuki]

That's honestly just how the internet is. I find it best to just block people who make you feel threatened, uncomfortable, core values too different you can't accept etc. Out of sight, out of mind.

 

[ColorfulSoy]

@hazzack
are you being toxic to that guy? what did you get from it?

 

[Greenfrost]

Yeah, like others have said, the internet is swarming with horrible people. And, Mangadex has a bigger community than It used to, so you get more of them. Nothing much you can do about it. Just Block them and or report them.

 

[fallen_heaven]

Don't you mean "The Community" rather than Mangadex? (as they're the admins etc.). Most large gatherings on the internet inevitable becomes "toxic" by the vocal minority. However I never expected much either considering this gathering is based around piracy and leechers.

You might see these forums as a former haven where I see them as crime dens. Not a lot of nice people in crime dens.

 

[Aichan]

Strictly speaking, I don't think the community of mangadex itself is particularly at fault either. Many people I met here are decent people who while not having a sense of humour, are at least polite. I just thought that instead of talking about the community, it is easier to talk about the website.

I have nothing against the admins and mods of mangadex. They have actually helped me in the past, and this thread is not aimed at them. It's not aimed at the community either, but merely talking about the small group of people who make the entire experience browsing the site unpleasant from their toxicity.

 

[TwenyTwo]

i see nothing wrong

 

[YumGumYum]

blocking people & ignoring some of them is a good thing

 

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

I think when people write that they don't really think about your family and friends as a people, but like a fantasy scenario, since it's just like when people say literally - they are thinking more about "I wish you were in his position so you could understand it's wrong", not about literal people. That doesn't make it right, but I don't believe they would really say that in front of your family in real life - it's more that on the internet it's easy to forget other poster is real life person, much more their friends and family you'll probably never see IRL, so people mix in their outrage the fictional characters and people that feel fictional to them.

Besides, what you recommended is just like when they tell rape victim to marry their rapist to preserve their honor, except worse since what she did to him was much more horrible, so I can't see why you are surprised when some people overreact to horrible opinions - if you can treat words on the internet as seriously as a prayer why would you publicly state opinions other posters can take as seriously as endorsement of victim submitting to their inhuman torturer? If you feel this place is becoming too toxic, why write that stuff in the first place? Either you don't treat words on Internet seriously or you do, pick one.

 

[bigtiddyoneesan]

@Aichan
Tbh I wouldn't expect cordiality from most people on sites that have some degree of anonymity. Happens to me too sometimes. Some guy named @Richman cussed me out just the other day for saying I don't like Youjo Senki.

Anyway, I see that the user who left that message has a default profile pic. That's already a tell that a user could be toxic. My advice is just to acknowledge defaultbros as the Untouchables they are in our MangaDex society.

And if you run into more comments like that one, feel free to post them in the Defaultbro quotes thread. Uncle Tiddy (that's me) will give them a look.

 

[Aichan]

@the_Bear_from_Bearcave

Difference is, I don't make personal attacks or wish real harm on real people. My comment was strictly within the context of the manga, and if you have a sense of humour, you'd just laugh along as that was an in-universe joke. I don't expect you to actually laugh along, no, that would be too much to hope for. But I do hope that you recognize it as a joke in the context of that manga. And that you would not carry that forward into real life.

 

[PantsMan]

The guy in your example isn't even really attacking you. He's overreacting and trying to make a point about your post. No wonder Mangadex is "getting worse" if that's what qualifies as a "toxic personal attack".

 

[Zephyrus]

MD has something of a reputation for toxicity, unfortunately. I tend to agree. There is a small, but very vocal minority of posters that seem to make it their mission in life to be as unpleasant as possible.

I firmly believe that anonymity or ignorance of our rules (If you don't familiarize yourself with a website's rules, you have no one to blame but yourself) is no excuse for bad behavior.

 

[Kanami-chan]

You can always ask your daddy government staff to censor mean things that hurt your feefees for you, sweetie. Even this post.

 

[BroederTrapist]

@aichan

Why did you have to burn her?

"you", so the question is personal.

Just accept her love and make her more moderate in her love.

Instructions on how to behave.

Difference is, I don't make personal attacks or wish real harm on real people.

Maybe you didn't feel so, but that was a personal attack.

That said. The problem with text is that it doesn't have emotions.
If you're standing in front of a person you pick up more signals. body language, voice intonations, face expressions...
But with text, it's much more easy to misunderstand then overreact.