Isekai Munchkin -HP 1 no Mama de Saikyou Saisoku Danjon Kouryaku- - Ch. 106 - DIE FOR THE CAUSE

[Hikineet]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[NAMEREDACTED]

[Stares at translator's notes] Ah, I see. It is not a Large Army. It is an Army of People that are Large.

It feels like that pun should be easier to make work in English.

 

[3141592653589]

It's the other way around. She has the Best Girl feat, which provides all of those bonuses.

God, I always try to forget 5e turned that shit into a feat.

I don't mean to go all Back in My Day here, but I at least remember when Best Girl was a prestige class that you had to build a character around and could lose at any time by betraying your -dere vows. Shit, that last bit once completely fractured a friend group I was playing with when the DM declared a player's character to have lost her Kuudere levels because of smiling too much while she was in the middle of a gauntlet of deception checks against a lich. Just pulls a "Too much dere, not enough kuu, you are now a Worst Girl" at the climax of the story and causes a total party wipe. Entire group revolted but he stood his ground and lost basically every friend he had.

I get that something had to be done about the 2e-era bullshit of every party having at least two quad-class Elf Fighter/Mage/Tsundere/Best Girls sponging all the XP and being useless until epic levels but you will never, ever convince me that turning Best Girl into a go-to meta feat that 90% of players take at level 4 and the remaining 10% take at level 8 was the answer.

 

[AnotherDuck]

I don't mean to go all Back in My Day here, but I at least remember when Best Girl was a prestige class that you had to build a character around and could lose at any time by betraying your -dere vows. Shit, that last bit once completely fractured a friend group I was playing with when the DM declared a player's character to have lost her Kuudere levels because of smiling too much while she was in the middle of a gauntlet of deception checks against a lich. Just pulls a "Too much dere, not enough kuu, you are now a Worst Girl" at the climax of the story and causes a total party wipe. Entire group revolted but he stood his ground and lost basically every friend he had.

Hard to determine from the context given here, but the classic ruling for the Kuudere was that it's allowed for them to smile more if, and only if, they had spent a significant time prior to that in cool mode (and equivalent for the Tsundere class). Later editions brought up that you had to constantly balance the two aspects, which made it more precarious and much more likely to cause breakups like what happened to your group. Honestly a bit similar to DMs who liked to force Paladins to choose between a Lawful and Good option, without allowing for a third option, and then punish them either way because they "broke their code."

I get that something had to be done about the 2e-era bullshit of every party having at least two quad-class Elf Fighter/Mage/Tsundere/Best Girls sponging all the XP and being useless until epic levels but you will never, ever convince me that turning Best Girl into a go-to meta feat that 90% of players take at level 4 and the remaining 10% take at level 8 was the answer.

And that's not even counting the variant humans who can start with it. The feat should at least be locked behind some rather difficult requirement, like starting off as a villain before joining the hero party (which would require some hard Persuasion checks and potentially an alignment change, but can easily end in death given your average murder hobo party).

 

[TestAddress]

Mating press? Mating press.

At least a triplet seed.

Oh good, we're back to the story. That was a lot of chapters of "planning."

Next would be planting. One could cope.

 

[Nemo2342]

Disappointed that the chapter is called "Die for the Cause" and it wasn't a dice pun.

Best girl is rocking it though.

 

[ihoj]

THICC, RIGHT SIZE.

Short stacks make the best onaholes.

 

[BadHaremSchollar]

Rivernia is completely uncontested in the romance, and with good reason. No way this doesnt go further.

 

[3141592653589]

Hard to determine from the context given here, but the classic ruling for the Kuudere was that it's allowed for them to smile more if, and only if, they had spent a significant time prior to that in cool mode (and equivalent for the Tsundere class). Later editions brought up that you had to constantly balance the two aspects, which made it more precarious and much more likely to cause breakups like what happened to your group. Honestly a bit similar to DMs who liked to force Paladins to choose between a Lawful and Good option, without allowing for a third option, and then punish them either way because they "broke their code."

TBH the DM had a pretty solid case on strict RAW basis; with the benefit of hindsight it was a bad move to allow the group to make their only face character a Kuudere before the 3.5 guidelines that made it explicit that the class only got its full Deception bonus in circumstances where stone-faced silence was advantageous, but even without that it was pretty obvious to everybody involved that that player had been playing fast and loose with the archetype to the point where as soon as she was rolling any Charisma check other than Intimidation it was like she was role-playing a Genki Girl (a class which, I add, the character had zero levels in). So from a strictly logical position it wasn't hard to justify the ruling, but the timing of it all during a climactic encounter in what was probably going to be one of the campaign's final sessions killed a lot of sympathy the DM might have had.

Funniest part of the whole affair was that I was the player who was the most sympathetic to the DM's ruling, but I was only really there because I was sort of a friend of a friend of a few of the regulars that I lived near and I had a car so I could give them a ride. And the Kuudere's player was not only one of the people I was driving to the sessions but was also the sister of one of my best friends at the time, so there was literally zero chance that I was ever going to stick my neck out for the DM to mount a "Well, technically..." defense of the ruling, especially when I was pretty pissed that he picked basically the worst possible moment to put his foot down.

My most vivid memory of the whole thing was watching this group of people I only kinda-sorta knew basically rage out at their soon-to-be-ex-friend, looking at my character sheet for Green Sonja the Half-Orc Barbarian with her -2 Charisma modifier and thinking to myself "Yeah, all of this shit coulda been avoided if I'd just rolled up a fuckin' bard."

 

[DHMaster]

[Stares at translator's notes] Ah, I see. It is not a Large Army. It is an Army of People that are Large.

It feels like that pun should be easier to make work in English.

Originally thought it'd only be a one time pun, but... Well, it wasn't.

 

[AnotherDuck]

My most vivid memory of the whole thing was watching this group of people I only kinda-sorta knew basically rage out at their soon-to-be-ex-friend, looking at my character sheet for Green Sonja the Half-Orc Barbarian with her -2 Charisma modifier and thinking to myself "Yeah, all of this shit coulda been avoided if I'd just rolled up a fuckin' bard."

If not that, something else would've happened at some other point instead. There are a lot of debates being won by club, and a lot of social trouble to get into if you rely on Charisma. Some groups are just bound to disintegrate. Table drama is why I prefer Baldur's Gate. Of course the classics; the new one's overrated.

 

[TestAddress]

🦎Short stacks make the best onaholes.

Toast

 

[greatninja3]

She's the best.

is that why she is raising so many death flags ?

 

[TestAddress]

Flags for eggs

 

[Rukja]

thanks for the chapter
and did the poor evil princess just raised her own flag?