Isekai Shachuuhaku Monogatari - Outrunner PHEV - Vol. 3 Ch. 12 - Village of The Beast Curse Race

[popinloopy]

Wait so I'm confused, time is definitely passing different between both worlds, but by how much faster is it?

It's not a matter of time passing faster, but time travel. Think of it like this: his first trip brought him to the year 2023 (I'm just picking a random number, this is not accurate.) Then his next trip is 2021. Then 2027. Then 2024. Let's say he meets Kyara in his fourth trip, to the year 2024, and they get married. 3 years later, it'll be 2027 and Kyara will have already been married to him for 3 years. But since the MC visits 2027 BEFORE 2024, he hasn't gotten married to her yet from his point of view. It's like he's experiencing events out of order. Mu is Kyara, and Kyara and her parents have clearly all met Out multiple times before, but they met a future Out traveling back to the past, whereas this is past/present Out traveling to the future. It's his first time meeting them, but not their first time meeting him.

 

[Kushikime]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[TheMather1]

Has our guy never read a book in his life? How has he never come across the concept of time hopping? There are way too many hints being dropped all over that suggest future versions of him have been here multiple times, but he's not picking up on any them. I just don't understand how, at the age of 26, he's completely oblivious and unfamiliar with the concept. He understood isekai immediately, but time-hopping is not even crossing his mind once. Ugh, I hope it doesn't take 30 chapters for him to figure it out, or this is going to get very aggravating.

Sounds like he caught on and just let it slide. If you've got a good future ahead, why change it by asking too many questions.

 

[Goldenzeal]

how does she know about the tale of Urashima Taro anyway ?

MC most likely told them as a funny story or as a way to help "himself from the past"
The story is heavily suggesting MC can travel both space AND time.

This is the first time he meets the sister and their parents "from his own perspective".
But because MC is going to travel "back in time" from "a later point in his own time" / "from the future"
This is not the first time for them,as they have already meet "his future self" when they traveled "back in time" and visited them.

Which is why everyone did not react strangely to the car, since the villagers has seen it before.
But that visit was by a version from "his future" so MC does not know he is going to "return" to a earlier point in time.

Wut 😦

Time travel babyyyy

Wait so I'm confused, time is definitely passing different between both worlds, but by how much faster is it?

I think time is passing 3.5-7 times SLOWER in the fantasy world if im not wrong.
( but im not going to go back and check the math)

he managed to finish the work in time back in chapter 2 while he spent 7 days / a week in fantasy land.
And his weekend trip was not over , so it had only been a day or two in his original world.

But this means MC is going to age faster then everyone around him.
Which is why the tale of Urashima Taro is relevant, as he believed he spent 7 days at an underwater palace.
Only to find out he was gone 100 years once he returned.

He later opened a box that he was given explicit instructions to never open, and then he ages to be an old man in an instant because the box was keeping his "youth"
Basically its the Japanese version of pandoras box.

I'm not convinced MC's not just a time traveler who is experiencing events out of order within the chronology of the world he's traveling to.

That is 100% what the story is suggesting, but its not 100% confirmed yet.
But considering how they react its one of the only few possibilities.
( the other being someone else also being a dimension/time traveler.... did he have kids ???? )

It’s the Bethoven time paradox… I wonder how the author is gonna treat that in the future

Also known as The Bootstrap Paradox.
For people who don´t know it...
A time traveler brings with him his favorite Bethoven songs to the past to meet Bethoven and have them signed.

But can´t find Bethoven anywhere.
So he publishes all the Bethoven songs in Bethovens name thus becoming "Bethoven".
But that causes the Paradox, who wrote the original songs?

 

[KoffeeStarZ0e]

this is hella confusing ngl

 

[definitionofinsanity]

...I just wish they would settle whether he's jumping around at various points in time in the other world or if Mu just knows so much stuff she shouldn't from her mystical powers or some shit.

The way that they're beating around the bush and just hinting at it is just super odd.

 

[Solandri]

60 kph seems low enough for mc to unintentionally drive for 2 minutes and accidentally activate the transfer. But I suppose it's plenty fast for dirt roads or off road.

And is the isekai ability part of his car? Or is it MCs skill being put on the car? Can he do the transfer with a different car, if his current car gets wrecked?

My take is that magical energy is needed to travel back. And MC's body can't store enough magical energy for a trip. Maybe in the future when he's developed his powers, he can store enough energy or use it efficiently enough to make a trip. But right now he can't. However, his car can. So he's able to travel with the assist of his car.

(Assuming the process of traveling from Earth to the other world requires the same magical energy, MC is somehow acquiring that energy while on Earth. My guess is his body produces it, kinda like mana regeneration. That would mean traveling from Earth to the other world requires MC to hang around in his car for a while.)

Which is why the tale of Urashima Taro is relevant, as he believed he spent 7 days at an underwater palace.
Only to find out he was gone 100 years once he returned.

He later opened a box that he was given explicit instructions to never open, and then he ages to be an old man in an instant because the box was keeping his "youth"
Basically its the Japanese version of pandoras box.

The Western (well, American) story most like it is Rip Van Winkle. Though it doesn't have the pandora's box ending (he continued aging while he was asleep).

Also known as The Bootstrap Paradox.
For people who don´t know it...
A time traveler brings with him his favorite Bethoven songs to the past to meet Bethoven and have them signed.

But can´t find Bethoven anywhere.
So he publishes all the Bethoven songs in Bethovens name thus becoming "Bethoven".
But that causes the Paradox, who wrote the original songs?

Yeah, author stepped deep into that one with her instructions on how to use his car to return.

• Old-Kyara teaches young-MC he needs to let his car collect magical energy for 2 days, then drive 100 km/h to return to Earth.
• Presumably old-MC teaches young-Kyara the same thing.

So where did this information originate from? Kyara learned it from MC, MC learned it from Kyara.

The weird thing is the author is completely aware of this, since he has Kyara hesitating to tell him for this exact reason. I'm curious to see if the author is planning to have some sort of twist on this.

 

[Simpleton]

It’s the Bethoven time paradox… I wonder how the author is gonna treat that in the future

Hey, at least this means he can marry both girls, since for all we know they might be separated by centuries of time in this world. (And of course he can come back and pick them up when they are properly grown up - by which time he might have matured some himself as well)

 

[Simpleton]

Yeah, author stepped deep into that one with her instructions on how to use his car to return.

• Old-Kyara teaches young-MC he needs to let his car collect magical energy for 2 days, then drive 100 km/h to return to Earth.
• Presumably old-MC teaches young-Kyara the same thing.

So where did this information originate from? Kyara learned it from MC, MC learned it from Kyara.

The weird thing is the author is completely aware of this, since he has Kyara hesitating to tell him for this exact reason. I'm curious to see if the author is planning to have some sort of twist on this.

Just read "The Technicolor Time Machine" to see how a classical author solved the dilemma.

 

[VinylAT]

Has our guy never read a book in his life? How has he never come across the concept of time hopping? There are way too many hints being dropped all over that suggest future versions of him have been here multiple times, but he's not picking up on any them. I just don't understand how, at the age of 26, he's completely oblivious and unfamiliar with the concept. He understood isekai immediately, but time-hopping is not even crossing his mind once. Ugh, I hope it doesn't take 30 chapters for him to figure it out, or this is going to get very aggravating.

My brother in christ, there are some folk in the comment section in this manga that are as confused as MC on this whole situation. He understands time dilation as shown in the Eta chapter with his comment on how time passes differently. Not everyone has watched Doctor Who's type of time travel.

He also figures it out somewhat here, see his message to "Kyara" that he gives to Mu.

 

[Ari2142]

Basically just, back to the future 1, 2 and 3.
I should watch that movie again.