Isekai Walking - Vol. 4 Ch. 28 - Goblin's Grief

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Honestly, author should have had them just finish it this chapter....

Any longer for the showing off their skill is unneeded...

And if you have the MC show off, it's kinda pointless and just feels weak...
Most isekais are power fantasies self insert of the author sadly. I fully expect the protagonist to do something to steal the spotlight and save absolutely everyone even if he's a complete newbie with no experience whatsoever.
 
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I'm kinda puzzled why would the wolf pack attempt to rescue their kin if it's already stuck in the tiger-wolf maw, it's giving them bit too much sentience.

If it was to show the tiger-wolf strength, they might run into a cliff side and then choose to counter attack.
 
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Honestly, author should have had them just finish it this chapter....
Well, this chapter is just 15 pages long without any credits. If they're going to finish it in one chapter, the chapter usually consists of 20 or 30 pages. In many publications, this would be split into multiple chapter parts. I think this way is better.
 
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Oh man, those wolves went back to save their companion. I doubt they'll be attacking the adventurers, they're probably fleeing for now.

That was some nice coordination from Goblin's Grief to hurt that Tigerwolf. Yuno and Syphon even got to flirt in the middle of it. But that was just a slash and an arrow wound. It's not really going to injury such a hulking creature. What's it going to do next? Dash for Sora and the gang?
 
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One day, there will be walking. One day, something will happen. One day, a chapter won't feel like it could have been skipped.
 
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Well, this chapter is just 15 pages long without any credits. If they're going to finish it in one chapter, the chapter usually consists of 20 or 30 pages. In many publications, this would be split into multiple chapter parts. I think this way is better.
Even then, this didn't need to be 30 pages. They could have just finished it this fight to show off how amazing the adventurers are....

Being short and sweet is sometimes a good thing.
 
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Most isekais are power fantasies self insert of the author sadly. I fully expect the protagonist to do something to steal the spotlight and save absolutely everyone even if he's a complete newbie with no experience whatsoever.
Not saying it shouldn't be a power trip fantasy... but having a moment to see how amazing the adventurers can be isn't a bad thing...

It's just author's over compensating....
 
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Why were they intercepting the decoy wolves that were antagonistic towards the same enemy, and were veering away from the caravan on behalf of not wanting to get chased against a cliff-wall with nowhere to further escape?

Like, had they focused on catdog then it would be an easier fight. The wolves would have gotten to flee sideways. The catdog might not even have decided to mess with the humans. And if it did, the wolves seemed likely to double-back and take revenge on the catdog that killed their family.
 
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I'm kinda puzzled why would the wolf pack attempt to rescue their kin if it's already stuck in the tiger-wolf maw, it's giving them bit too much sentience.

If it was to show the tiger-wolf strength, they might run into a cliff side and then choose to counter attack.
iirc aren't wolves actually quite solidaric? Where if a prey shows themselves capable to hurt the pack, they will abort on behalf of retaining the integrity of the pack, as opposed to selfish desire for food at any cost using wave-tactics. And if there's a predator that shows itself capable and wanting to hurt the pack, they gang up to take revenge to ensure it doesn't continue until the pack has been whittled to extinction. Even if that means additionally sacrificing their own life to ensure the kill. It is also why a starving pack is so much more dangerous, as they will start punching up when hunting and no longer abort just because they risk losing a member or two.

Standard social pack-animal behaviour, even seen in humans. It is why we have those stupid lizard-brain things that makes it possible to induce us to throw our lives away in war for "the homeland", or other such situations (some gunman threatens your family? Lizard-brain might kick in and have you sac your own life to disarm or kill them).
 
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I'm confused. Why have the rest of the adventures kill the wolves when they're just running away? Like I'd get it if they were in a frenzy but they seem pretty controlled and recognize the tiger wolf as a greater threat. It'd be smarter to tell them to just focus on protection and only attack if the Wolves make an attempt to harm them or the cargo. Really attacking already fleeing animals will just cause them more confusion and increase the danger.

I also can't tell if the author genuinely thought that the veteran party barely doing any damage was cool or is setting up for the MC to save the day.

Honestly I just read this from beginning to here and I'm kinda disappointed. From the name sake I expected a lot more walking and traveling. It's mostly been really nearby fetch quests, generic monster hunting, and cooking. I was hoping for a series where the MC spends his isekai life traveling and almost constantly walking (especially since he doesn't get tired at all while doing it which seems to apply to natural fatigue and at least one skill usage), meeting new people, going to new locations, etc.
 
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I'm kinda puzzled why would the wolf pack attempt to rescue their kin if it's already stuck in the tiger-wolf maw, it's giving them bit too much sentience.

If it was to show the tiger-wolf strength, they might run into a cliff side and then choose to counter attack.
pretty much as feha said. Also keep in mind that wolf packs are usually a singular family. The behavior we assigned 'alphas' was the result of them being separated from their families and thrown into captivity. In nature, what we thought were 'alphas' are just the mom and dad and everyone else is probably their kids. So, this is probably just a family of wolves. On top of that, wolves are known for being very cooperative and form lifelong friendships/teams with crows, playing together as they grow up and hunting together as adults.

A lot of animals have a surprising amount of sentience and personality. I remember they were experimenting with apes ability for communication by teaching them sign language. The apes learned it, started combining and rearranging them to create new words, and would teach it to their offspring. The scientists then moved the goalpost by saying it wasn't enough that they did this, they needed to do it without any goal like wanting food, sex, or companionship for it to be like a 'human'. As though they didn't get that everything a person does can be traced back to some basic need like that.
 
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iirc aren't wolves actually quite solidaric? Where if a prey shows themselves capable to hurt the pack, they will abort on behalf of retaining the integrity of the pack, as opposed to selfish desire for food at any cost using wave-tactics. And if there's a predator that shows itself capable and wanting to hurt the pack, they gang up to take revenge to ensure it doesn't continue until the pack has been whittled to extinction. Even if that means additionally sacrificing their own life to ensure the kill. It is also why a starving pack is so much more dangerous, as they will start punching up when hunting and no longer abort just because they risk losing a member or two.

Standard social pack-animal behaviour, even seen in humans. It is why we have those stupid lizard-brain things that makes it possible to induce us to throw our lives away in war for "the homeland", or other such situations (some gunman threatens your family? Lizard-brain might kick in and have you sac your own life to disarm or kill them).
pretty much as feha said. Also keep in mind that wolf packs are usually a singular family. The behavior we assigned 'alphas' was the result of them being separated from their families and thrown into captivity. In nature, what we thought were 'alphas' are just the mom and dad and everyone else is probably their kids. So, this is probably just a family of wolves. On top of that, wolves are known for being very cooperative and form lifelong friendships/teams with crows, playing together as they grow up and hunting together as adults.

A lot of animals have a surprising amount of sentience and personality. I remember they were experimenting with apes ability for communication by teaching them sign language. The apes learned it, started combining and rearranging them to create new words, and would teach it to their offspring. The scientists then moved the goalpost by saying it wasn't enough that they did this, they needed to do it without any goal like wanting food, sex, or companionship for it to be like a 'human'. As though they didn't get that everything a person does can be traced back to some basic need like that.
Both of you have some poits, but forget it's a pack and charging at something that one shots them all ends the pack. Maybe for us it would be "courageous", but instinctively one close to death member isn't worth sacrifice of an entire pack.

Know this, because prejudiced farmers still tend to set the snares whenever their livestock gets hurt, trapping one wolf and the pack doesn't even try to somehow rescue their kin or sustain with food, they bail out of the area because it's not worth it.
 

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