Isekai Walking - Vol. 7 Ch. 70 - Slave Contract

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Something I just remembered that most of you guys forget, a lot of mangas we read are literally market to teenagers, if not outright children, it's why thr story never goes deep into the implications and we get sanitized versions of slavery and similar topics, since it's not intended to be serious.

So in short, to all people twisting their panties over this manga, you're quite literally throwing a fit over what might be effectively children book, for children who actually know to not take this seriously at all :dogkek:

There is a difference between skimming a topic and blatantly telling people it's fine. It's not even explained well for the story, let alone the real world.

Especially if the potential slave is an underage girl who can barely speak properly and who has only recently been freed from literal brainwashing.
 
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Slavery is ok in this Isekai manga “because it’s mutually beneficial”
It’s kind of like saying, it’s okay if I own a slave “ because i’ll treat them well”

And to be honest, whenever I see a manga, try and put slavery in a good light or try to portray it with a straw man argument. It makes me very dubious of the authors intentions and political views.

I would say his catchphrase here but I’m disappointed In him.
Also I’m guessing she might have gotten some of his abilities though the contract.


Thanks everyone at Haikai Scans for the translation.
Detected the butt hurt american.
 
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There is a difference between skimming a topic and blatantly telling people it's fine. It's not even explained well for the story, let alone the real world.

Especially if the potential slave is an underage girl who can barely speak properly and who has only recently been freed from literal brainwashing.
Good job not separating reality from fiction, I'll just quote this post for you
There's all the difference in the world, since depiction is not endorsement. It's incredibly boring when the utterances of any character in a fictional world are interpreted as what the author really thinks in real life: If a manga features a character who offers a justification for killing criminals, we don't lambast the author for wanting to instate real-life vigilantism; if a character hates women, we don't hound the author because clearly they must hate women in real life. In exactly the same way, a story can feature slavery and characters sympathetic to it without the author justifying real life slavery. Requiring authors to only feature 'acceptable' ideas in their works is merely stifling creativity.
 
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My whole question with authors using is slavery is why not just use indentured servitude? Half the time the slaves in these fantasy words are working towards their freedom. If you're going to use an established 'system of labor's, why not use the one that by definition has a contract that aims for the laborer to gain their freedom? Using slavery and trying to moralize it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
 
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Now, someone who knows better please correct me if I'm wrong, it is true Americans weren't the only ones doing it, and that in other places there was definitely racial roots, but I'm pretty sure Americans were the only ones to straight up use religion to justify it, that slavery of black people was quite literally their God given right, slavery of black people absolutely defined confederate culture, it's the reason why not only they took so long to end slavery, but why also even today many people  still want confederacy and slavery back.

You don't see other countries with cultures openly whining about a "lost cause" that was defined by slavery.

As for slavery today, too many toes to step, people are too scared to destroy status quo and start wars over it, unfortunately.
I can say that Americans were not the only ones using religion as a justification. Enslavement at its heart is a class problem. The overclass creates some justification to exploit the underclass's labor. The most general expression is tribalism. "Our tribe good, other tribe wicked." And as tribal social organization evolved into cities, city-states, nations, multinational religions, etc, the scale of in group/out group evolved with them.

Ancient slavery absolutely used religion as a justification, because religious identity was the narrative tie for the in group. The old testament has passages of mosaic law that treated hebrew slaves like indentured servants, but allowed for permanent slaves from the canaanites. “Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly” (Leviticus 25:44–46).

European colonialism predates America, but had slavery as an economic and religious goal from the outset. Columbus claimed the Taino's were uncivilized and passive, and used horrific violence to oppress them. Every European colonial power participated in the African slave trade and called it "the white man's burden.". Besides African Americans, Americans also enslaved (and still do) indigenous people in their territories; Hawaii, Latin/South America, the Philippines, etc. In each instance, they justified their economic goals as "spreading democracy" or "spreading Christianity" or "civilizing the savages."

As to your second point about "whining about the lost cause," I think there are examples if we understand slavery as a form of economic oppression. Imperial Japan used slave labor in China/Korea/Okinawa/Hokkaido/Sakhalin before ww2, and there is a subset of Japanese nationalism that wants to bring back the glory of imperial japan. We can look at all the big capitalist global north countries and see that when capitalism is threatened, the ruling class becomes more fascist to oppress workers. See Germany/Italy/spain in the '30s, Great Britain in the 80's, Greece in the 2000's, Hungary now, the USA now. Sometimes this takes place not on home soil but in their tribute states; see every socialist (or nonsubmissive to American capital) country the USA toppled to install a pro-capital fascist over the last century; Nicaragua, El Salvador, Chile, Argentina, Palestine, Iran, Korea, Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc.
 
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I can say that Americans were not the only ones using religion as a justification. Enslavement at its heart is a class problem. The overclass creates some justification to exploit the underclass's labor. The most general expression is tribalism. "Our tribe good, other tribe wicked." And as tribal social organization evolved into cities, city-states, nations, multinational religions, etc, the scale of in group/out group evolved with them.

Ancient slavery absolutely used religion as a justification, because religious identity was the narrative tie for the in group. The old testament has passages of mosaic law that treated hebrew slaves like indentured servants, but allowed for permanent slaves from the canaanites. “Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly” (Leviticus 25:44–46).

European colonialism predates America, but had slavery as an economic and religious goal from the outset. Columbus claimed the Taino's were uncivilized and passive, and used horrific violence to oppress them. Every European colonial power participated in the African slave trade and called it "the white man's burden.". Besides African Americans, Americans also enslaved (and still do) indigenous people in their territories; Hawaii, Latin/South America, the Philippines, etc. In each instance, they justified their economic goals as "spreading democracy" or "spreading Christianity" or "civilizing the savages."

As to your second point about "whining about the lost cause," I think there are examples if we understand slavery as a form of economic oppression. Imperial Japan used slave labor in China/Korea/Okinawa/Hokkaido/Sakhalin before ww2, and there is a subset of Japanese nationalism that wants to bring back the glory of imperial japan. We can look at all the big capitalist global north countries and see that when capitalism is threatened, the ruling class becomes more fascist to oppress workers. See Germany/Italy/spain in the '30s, Great Britain in the 80's, Greece in the 2000's, Hungary now, the USA now. Sometimes this takes place not on home soil but in their tribute states; see every socialist country the USA toppled to install a pro-capital fascist over the last century; Nicaragua, El Salvador, Chile, Argentina, Palestine, Iran, Korea, Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc.
Thanks for all the info, very interesting stuff, reason I singled out Americans is because compared to the other countries, they seemingly went really deep into embracing slavery as a culture and justify it with religion, did any other country even outright have a civil war about it? with their descendents to this day crying about their "lost cause"? So I do feel Americans inevitably end up an outlier when it comes to slavery.
 
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also, i encourage everyone who is dropping this with me to give it a 1 star review because slavery is bad and you shouldnt try to put a positive spin on it
Ok, I was going to give this manga a 7 or 8 because it's entertaining but now I'll give it a 10 instead, just to counteract some of the stupidity displayed in this thread (people not able to separate reality and fiction etc).
 

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