Ishigami Senki - Vol. 4 Ch. 18 - Deceiver

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Because the Princess HOLDS NO POWER since she isnt one, she is simply the daughter of the Lord and know this because WE SEEN THE EMPEROR AND HIS MOTHER.

You are painting a picture in your mind about what you want her to be and making her a monster because it suits your sense of black/white morality, you bring up she was a spy for long time but then ignore that until now there was no internal conflicts as none are mentioned, this situation is new and so for years she had really nothing to report or they just asked her for information that was either not important or seemingly unimportant.

Also you are ignoring the moment they reneged on the deal, she turned that makes what he said right ... she took the choice that seemingly keep her alive, the whole "she could have told then she was a spy" and then she would be executed for it considering were she come from, there is also the issue of her being one of the a Stone People and she is aware of that, question is when she became and/or how since that could be levied against her.
Okey, so what's stopping her from doing the same thing when the next noble with a coup plan rolls in? How can you trust this girl and sleep with your back exposed after this point? She learned her lesson now? It didn't take much to convince her in the first place.
It's about dignity. Many would rather die then do what she did. Princes literally slept in the same bed with her, helped her when she was at her lowest. She, instead , conspired with the people setting up her beloved princess's doom.

Can't belive we are discussing the innocence of a fucking spy (from a family of spies mind you) who quite literally almost got everyone killed due to her stupidity.
 
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I do hope she faces at least some punishment for this. I’m so sick of people betraying the main squad and being forgiven just because they’re also got betrayed later. Maybe not die because this is a hopeless ass situation and we need all the people we can get. Just anything would be fine.
 
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I do hope she faces at least some punishment for this. I’m so sick of people betraying the main squad and being forgiven just because they’re also got betrayed later. Maybe not die because this is a hopeless ass situation and we need all the people we can get. Just anything would be fine.
Nothing will happen to her since Princess just offered herself to be raped instead even after her retarded plan was exposed. These people have no sense of self-preservation and almost deserve to be betrayed.
 
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Nothing will happen to her since Princess just offered herself to be raped instead even after her retarded plan was exposed. These people have no sense of self-preservation and almost deserve to be betrayed.
She's also on the cover.

These chapters has taught me to never trust anyone in not-feudal japan, its just backstabs all the way down.
 
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Okay, series rating going down. It's one thing following a CHILD and trying to endure his stupidity (talking about MC)
It's the other when
  • Lord is having doubts about going back and getting butterflies for the other girl
  • Spy from a spy family isn't and won't be punished for spying and betraying
To clarify: Her spying actions might have accelerated or even might have been the most crucial points during their campaign.
Her actions resulted in: Death of allied troops, lesser damage to enemy and capture of her mistress.

Author will pull every shitty shounen troupe to save her, i feel bad for wanting her to be raped but i felt it was justice for deaths and betrayal she brought upon. Instead we get stupid princess who is willing to be raped for this piece of shit.
Nothing will happen to her since Princess
I stand behind Rafalgas every word in this discussion page. I would rather die myself then see my whole family die, i would go an extra mile and self delete myself in front of that traitor if that traitor really loved me just to show that stupidity has it's price (only if i can't kill the traitor myself). I expect evil things from my enemies but seeing my "friend" being an active participant in my families massacre? That's the lowest of the low.
The lowest pits of hell are made for people like that, this author is one twisted fuck if he thinks any rational person would sympathize with the traitor.
 
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She was. She genuinely thought they would let her go. If it was not for her ability, she would be raped and killed right now.
Shame, her suffering that fate would've been a good ending, but as always evil prevails.
 

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