Ittsu - Vol. 7 Ch. 63 - Last Scene
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I think part of it is that this type of relationship dynamic really doesn't appeal to me, so it's more of a personal issue than anything.tbh, I don't understand the negative take on Chiaki.
Yes, that is not a vanilla relationship but a SM one and Sagami (and Yui) clearly consent to being Chiaki's subs. Sagami and Yui discussed the sub/dom roles explicitly and know and enjoy their role.
Chiaki to me seems to check all the boxes for a "good" dom as well: She knows their needs and bounds, gives praise, comfort and tenderness afterwards (ok, that first night spent with Sagami at her home was a bit borderline, but this is still a manga so we should allow some exaggeration after all).
Given her back story, I'm happy for Chiaki that she finally found acceptance and understanding friends (again, even "w/ benefits")
Ok, admittedly, I'm an outsider to SM (but somewhat curious) so maybe my assessment is wrong. Would like to hear the thoughts of a more knowledgeable person
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Thanks so much for translating @gorgomoth !
I'm glad it wasn't a super downer ending like his other works.
I'm glad it wasn't a super downer ending like his other works.
I didn't read it as "they dated", it seems to me that Sagami tried to get a continuation of their scene in the tent with Yui and she rejected him. I think she was trying to forget the President and he was the stand in. I didn't see a romantic relationship with Chiaki for both of them, just FWP (Friends with Punishments), Chiaki's smile in the last page reminds me of the Opening of Paranoia Agent, in a good way.
Biggest surprise was Tate keeping the secret of the rash, and yeah, I think the "Goddess Folder" was the third year's tribute, specially Masked Guy. Chiaki knows how to read them, all.
If feels a little rushed, same as Pansuto. But I like it, the only thing I want to be explored was the talk between Sagami+Grandma about Chiaki losing her parents, but maybe the frame of the manga wasn't appropiate, better suited for a Surikomi side story.
Thanks, @gorgomoth.
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If you put a gun to this man's head and told him to "write a satisfying ending or die," he'd fellate the barrel.
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Nah! He'll put it in his butthole and yell "pull the trigger now!"
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I like that Chiaki seemed more gentle to Sagami at the end there. And it's a real shame that we didn't get much more of that before this. She was way too rough throughout most of her screen-time so it was hard to cheer for her as a heroine.
If I were to say another thing I didn't quite like, it was the somewhat NTR like implication that Chiaki "stole" Yui from Sagami in the end. I agree with the user who said that the person Yui couldn't forget was likely Chiaki and not the former president. And it's clear that Chiaki will have some sort of relationship with both of them. But having Yui reject him seemingly for Chiaki and then showing Chiaki being involved with both of them separately makes it seem more like Chiaki is two timing them rather than it being a three way relationship, which I think is way more satisfying as an ending. Not showing the three of them doing anything together is a dissapointment on it's own, but it also adds to the feeling that the MC "lost"... To Chiaki. The last page also kinda adds to that feeling; With it looking like the protagonist was Chiaki all along, when she wasn't even introduced till volume 3. While the actual protagonist and (former?) main heroine is in the background.
Another site had this manga tagged as axed/rushed ending. This ending, and a whole bunch of stuff related to Chiaki, makes me feel like this was meant to be a lot longer. That said, this was not so bad as far as axed endings go. It just really needed those extra chapters to flesh out Chiaki. And I personally would've liked if the relationship between the three of them was made clearer. Becasue a threesome was definitely on the table and this ending just makes me wonder.
If I were to say another thing I didn't quite like, it was the somewhat NTR like implication that Chiaki "stole" Yui from Sagami in the end. I agree with the user who said that the person Yui couldn't forget was likely Chiaki and not the former president. And it's clear that Chiaki will have some sort of relationship with both of them. But having Yui reject him seemingly for Chiaki and then showing Chiaki being involved with both of them separately makes it seem more like Chiaki is two timing them rather than it being a three way relationship, which I think is way more satisfying as an ending. Not showing the three of them doing anything together is a dissapointment on it's own, but it also adds to the feeling that the MC "lost"... To Chiaki. The last page also kinda adds to that feeling; With it looking like the protagonist was Chiaki all along, when she wasn't even introduced till volume 3. While the actual protagonist and (former?) main heroine is in the background.
Another site had this manga tagged as axed/rushed ending. This ending, and a whole bunch of stuff related to Chiaki, makes me feel like this was meant to be a lot longer. That said, this was not so bad as far as axed endings go. It just really needed those extra chapters to flesh out Chiaki. And I personally would've liked if the relationship between the three of them was made clearer. Becasue a threesome was definitely on the table and this ending just makes me wonder.
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We didn’t get a pov of chiaki and her thoughts honestly. It felt like she was the antagonist but we got nothing on her. You development was mainly done off screen with chiaki referring to her being the reason she missing from the club and there scenes leaving offscreen vibes. I didn’t like him getting cucked basically but he should’ve just left and it was on him. You lowkey was piece of shit and could’ve just told sagami from the beginning.
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I don’t even think the really consented. Just didn’t fight back. Especially yui
I don't recall them discussing an ending, just that they were going to be lesbian bikers. However, when they do shoot Mika's scenes due to her going to the tournament for the summer the president does mention he will need to do rewrites.
In my opinion Okada has difficulty nailing a solid ending (positive or negative), a lot of the stories feel like they just end. To my recollection Sundome is the only one that has a solid developed ending, it's just not a super positive one.
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Okay, a surprisingly light final for this author? Dare I say his lightest ending yet? (At least from translated mangas). Many thanks to @gorgomoth for doing this titanic work on obscure author and his niche stories!
Now to manga itself, felt kind of abrupt, maybe due to his later works taking more chapters to develop secondary characters, and give them at least some kind of arc. But overall, the usual mix of comedy/echhi/erotica stuff from author, with Chiaki being a somewhat unusually standing out desing, compared to other characters in other works of his.
Plot points:
MC - Sagami despite having alot less chapters, and even taking backseat sometimes, I felt like was more solid than MC from Pansuto, despite his ridiculous big mara snake.
Yui - same archetype as in other works, also I felt like she was hypocrite in 2nd part of story, relying on MC way too much, and that thing in tent was just her way of repaying him for his kindness, at least thats my interpretation.
Chiaki - probably the true "hidden" MC of manga, dominated everything and all, was not fan of that S&M part of her fingering mc, but later, author went lighter in that aspect, and I think she really became intrested in MC and tried to swing him away from Yui (which she succeded in the end). Who was pig #1? Well, it was implied its Tate-kun, who she called pig first, but in the end that didn't even matter, but I can imagine in ognoing during release of this manga, readers were guessing who it was.
Tate-kun being gay was obvious from that reaction on MC in female uniform, that gave it away.
Few chapters felt kind of sad because of how Chiaki basicly wanted to develop connection, but choose the abusive way, and all kinds of implications that carried, thankfully author went light on us in this one.
Also, author is not much of a "post-ending developments" kind, so 1 epilog chapter (this one) is all we have, but I feel like this manga is at least short few chapters or even whole volume more.
Final twist in here (president's act/idea) was far more readable than the one in Pansuto, what was not expected in here is Yui also kind of falling into Chiaki's hands.
All in all, thanks @gorgomoth for spending your time to bring this to english audience!
Now to manga itself, felt kind of abrupt, maybe due to his later works taking more chapters to develop secondary characters, and give them at least some kind of arc. But overall, the usual mix of comedy/echhi/erotica stuff from author, with Chiaki being a somewhat unusually standing out desing, compared to other characters in other works of his.
Plot points:
MC - Sagami despite having alot less chapters, and even taking backseat sometimes, I felt like was more solid than MC from Pansuto, despite his ridiculous big mara snake.
Yui - same archetype as in other works, also I felt like she was hypocrite in 2nd part of story, relying on MC way too much, and that thing in tent was just her way of repaying him for his kindness, at least thats my interpretation.
Chiaki - probably the true "hidden" MC of manga, dominated everything and all, was not fan of that S&M part of her fingering mc, but later, author went lighter in that aspect, and I think she really became intrested in MC and tried to swing him away from Yui (which she succeded in the end). Who was pig #1? Well, it was implied its Tate-kun, who she called pig first, but in the end that didn't even matter, but I can imagine in ognoing during release of this manga, readers were guessing who it was.
Tate-kun being gay was obvious from that reaction on MC in female uniform, that gave it away.
Few chapters felt kind of sad because of how Chiaki basicly wanted to develop connection, but choose the abusive way, and all kinds of implications that carried, thankfully author went light on us in this one.
Also, author is not much of a "post-ending developments" kind, so 1 epilog chapter (this one) is all we have, but I feel like this manga is at least short few chapters or even whole volume more.
Final twist in here (president's act/idea) was far more readable than the one in Pansuto, what was not expected in here is Yui also kind of falling into Chiaki's hands.
All in all, thanks @gorgomoth for spending your time to bring this to english audience!
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No, due to Mika doing a tennis tournament, they made reshoots where she was killed by zombi (dude that wanted to be her boyfriend), it was in on of chapters.
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If this was axed, it didn't turn out any worse than his other endings, which were almost all shit.
Dude made one manga where the heroine died at the end at it actually worked, then kept trying to repeat that with none of the success.
I think the biggest problem from start to finish was that no character ever developed beyond who they first were. Tate was a horribly rude prick from the beginning to hide something, Yui always kept her almost superior self-view and love of the president, Sagami was just a pervert with nothing else to him, and Chiaki is a sexual assaulter who never bothered with consent or the feelings. At any point there needed to be a realization that one of them had about being better but instead they all just flowed and allowed it to continue without development. Giving Chiaki the minimum of "not wanting to be hurt" doesn't even qualify as an excuse for her actions. It just supports her being a terrible person who makes excuses for their bad behavior rather than own up to it.
