Jaryuu Tensei - Vol. 4 Ch. 25 - Detective Lucille's Case File
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The gods were obviously virtuous if they had zeus. I don't hear anyone saying otherwise... though I do hear birds for some reason? ...And is that the smell of entrails? I must be imagining something, this is zeus pantheon, surely noone is going all Norse and dealing a Loki-style punishment? Anyway, even when I have heard someone claim the gods to be evil, they must have clearly retracted their accusations after a good nights sleep, cause I have never seen them appear again. And wasn't it thanks to the gods (aphrodite to be exact) that Prince Paris got a wife? One who had already been married at that, so she would surely have had a hard time getting a new husband had aphrodite not helped. Some might consider it nepotism for aphrodite to help her as helen were zeus daughter. But hey, that is merely biological, zeus had his finger in every pie (even if the pie tried to run) so one can hardly say that being a child of zeus matters much. And besides that her legal father was some doofus named Tyndareus, so I doubt aphrodite even knew that helen was a sister of hers (according to some versions), or at the very least biological step-child (I doubt this is a thing, but lets run with that) according to versions where she bonks zeus.
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tl;dr - The gods were messed up
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tl;dr - The gods were messed up
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@feha That's how you know your Gods are effective, you pray to the Goddess of Love, and she delivers you a most beautiful married woman, with kingdoms vying for her, launching thousands of boats and whatnot. Also, it's said that lightning never strikes twice, but Zeus made sure to hit every woman at least once.
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@feha
Especialy the Greek Gods. Athena was by far one of the most fucked up ones. Anytime she lost a challenge, or won with a close victory, or was insulted somehow, she punished the "offender" by distorting them horribly.
Plus they always overlapped one another. Doing something for one of the was punnished severly by another, even if the person had no real choice in the matter.
Especialy the Greek Gods. Athena was by far one of the most fucked up ones. Anytime she lost a challenge, or won with a close victory, or was insulted somehow, she punished the "offender" by distorting them horribly.
Plus they always overlapped one another. Doing something for one of the was punnished severly by another, even if the person had no real choice in the matter.
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Yeah, I picked paris+aphrodite as an example because it exemplifies that perfectly, you literally couldn't do anything without spurning one of the gods into ruining you.
- You have a "best bred bull" competition with Ares where he cheats and turns into the bull himself to get a literal godlike bull as his entry? You don't hesitate, you hand the prize to him before he takes offense. Like you said, cutting it close to winning is dangerous enough.
- Then Zeus has a Carnage between three girls so he shafts it over to you saying "hey, you seem like someone fair, the way you didn't contest Ares. I'll let you decide which goddess is most beautiful, good luck!", and they proceed to bribe you, cause yknow, you are so fair?
Well, you solve it by not taking the world as given by the goddess of childbirth and marriage (sounds sure to backfire, and she seems like someone who could take a loss without taking it out on the judge, right?),
and neither do you take wisdom and skill in war from the literal war goddess (oh god no, please no, me and my kingdom wants peace, even if the bribe in itself doesn't force war upon me, it feels like a veeeery slippery slope. And I know athena is a sore loser, but not the sorest of the bunch, plus I am merely the judge, and come on, if I am taking bribes I want something I can use!),
instead you pick the bribe of the prettiest girl alive being given as your wife (come on, its aphrodite, known to be a very sore loser, the goddess- and embodiment of beauty, and quite frankly, this is a beauty contest, I can only see it going very poorly for me if I, the judge, spurs her in this. And I do want a pretty, as certified by the goddess of beauty, wife. And by godly mandate, no less. Besides, surely a single woman falling in love with- and happily marrying you has no way of backfiring, right? Right?!).
- Your new wife is already married... Ok fine, you can work with that, particularly after aphrodite sent a cupid to brainwash her. Oh, whats that, her husband is another ruler and he declared war on you? Goddamnit Aphrodite, would it have killed you to have done a proper follow-up to a deal, for once? Cause you not doing it seems to have killed me...
Athenas bribe would be useful just about now, or yknow, the lands the goddess of marriage offered would also help a war-effort. Or maybe I should have argued against Ares to begin with, to avoid Zeus finding a reason to foist the mess onto me? I mean, he is a war-god and all, but surely he might have been a Bro about it all?
Yeah, I picked paris+aphrodite as an example because it exemplifies that perfectly, you literally couldn't do anything without spurning one of the gods into ruining you.
- You have a "best bred bull" competition with Ares where he cheats and turns into the bull himself to get a literal godlike bull as his entry? You don't hesitate, you hand the prize to him before he takes offense. Like you said, cutting it close to winning is dangerous enough.
- Then Zeus has a Carnage between three girls so he shafts it over to you saying "hey, you seem like someone fair, the way you didn't contest Ares. I'll let you decide which goddess is most beautiful, good luck!", and they proceed to bribe you, cause yknow, you are so fair?
Well, you solve it by not taking the world as given by the goddess of childbirth and marriage (sounds sure to backfire, and she seems like someone who could take a loss without taking it out on the judge, right?),
and neither do you take wisdom and skill in war from the literal war goddess (oh god no, please no, me and my kingdom wants peace, even if the bribe in itself doesn't force war upon me, it feels like a veeeery slippery slope. And I know athena is a sore loser, but not the sorest of the bunch, plus I am merely the judge, and come on, if I am taking bribes I want something I can use!),
instead you pick the bribe of the prettiest girl alive being given as your wife (come on, its aphrodite, known to be a very sore loser, the goddess- and embodiment of beauty, and quite frankly, this is a beauty contest, I can only see it going very poorly for me if I, the judge, spurs her in this. And I do want a pretty, as certified by the goddess of beauty, wife. And by godly mandate, no less. Besides, surely a single woman falling in love with- and happily marrying you has no way of backfiring, right? Right?!).
- Your new wife is already married... Ok fine, you can work with that, particularly after aphrodite sent a cupid to brainwash her. Oh, whats that, her husband is another ruler and he declared war on you? Goddamnit Aphrodite, would it have killed you to have done a proper follow-up to a deal, for once? Cause you not doing it seems to have killed me...
Athenas bribe would be useful just about now, or yknow, the lands the goddess of marriage offered would also help a war-effort. Or maybe I should have argued against Ares to begin with, to avoid Zeus finding a reason to foist the mess onto me? I mean, he is a war-god and all, but surely he might have been a Bro about it all?
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@feha @JavelinJoe well since were on the topic of greek gods I recommend this channel there is a lot of Hellenistic topic here.
https://www.youtube.com/user/RedEyesTakeWarning
https://www.youtube.com/user/RedEyesTakeWarning
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a good youtube channel, although I am already subscribed to it. I guess that just proves how good of a suggestion it is?
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I haven't actually read the source-materials, but from derivative works (including wikipedias summary of the story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgement_of_Paris#Mythic_narrative) this appears to be the intro to the beauty-contest being judged by a mortal
and yes, this means that zeus-the-chad-of-chads literally did what is called a "beta-japanese-harem-mc pro-move", where he spinelessly can't decide between his harem members and says "can't we all just get along? no? But I can't decide! *runs off*".
a good youtube channel, although I am already subscribed to it. I guess that just proves how good of a suggestion it is?
@luvicvis
I haven't actually read the source-materials, but from derivative works (including wikipedias summary of the story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgement_of_Paris#Mythic_narrative) this appears to be the intro to the beauty-contest being judged by a mortal
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and yes, this means that zeus-the-chad-of-chads literally did what is called a "beta-japanese-harem-mc pro-move", where he spinelessly can't decide between his harem members and says "can't we all just get along? no? But I can't decide! *runs off*".
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@feha Free Prometheus, giver of fire, creator and champion of humanity!
@JavelinJoe Arachne got a bum rap. ...Or maybe not: the sick burn she hit Athena with must have kept Paeon busy for weeks.
@JavelinJoe Arachne got a bum rap. ...Or maybe not: the sick burn she hit Athena with must have kept Paeon busy for weeks.
I really wish they would pay attention to what was previously translated. Just to get the names right, or at least consistent. Now the Catholic church? What? Just because their is a clear line for depiction and description of God going from Zeus to the creation of Catholicism doesn't mean the church exists in this alternate world featuring people who died in Japan.
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