Jimi na Kensei wa Sore Demo Saikyou desu - Vol. 10 Ch. 84

[HelioCesar]

Spoiler: LN 6 spoilers

Back in Volume 6 of the LN, which would have been Volume 7 of the manga, Suiboku is talking with everyone after the fight with Fuukei but before Sansui returns.

Suiboku's answer:


My opinion is that a lot of the backlash to this series is from people who want to see Isekai MC's that fall directly into that category that Suiboku wanted Sansui to avoid. Look at Saiga, before Sansui straightened him out. Look at Shozou and Ukyo.
While not spelled out explicitly like it was in the LN, the manga does still show Sansui trying to live up to that ideal, and Suiboku still regretting that past of his, even if it does get played for laughs at times.

As for expecting more, Sansui is supposed to go to the land of the Sages with Suiboku, so that's probably where they're going to explore the idea of the immortality and lack of human desires that the Sages have, how it separates them from the rest of Humanity, and if holing up away from the world in seclusion is really the way to happiness if one's very existence can have such a distorting effect on civilization.

I see, thanks for the answers, i edited the message with a last bit and i don't know if you got to see it.
Anyway thanks again.

 

[Abricomas]

I see, thanks for the answers, i edited the message with a last bit and i don't know if you got to see it.
Anyway thanks again.

Not that I can remember actually being shown, but then again, there's a lot of time to cover.
Sansui has been depicted as always taking responsibilities and debts pretty seriously, so he probably did repay that debt somehow, just not given any lines for it.

 

[BusWindow]

Those poor girls, lol.

 

[Dragou]

Sansui was killed by accident, gets a wish as compensation, wishes to be the strongest, and gets it how? In a monkey's paw/gennie way.

Also a point that always annoyed me a bit is that Saiga had the exact same situation and wish and he simply got it in that way. Its inconsistent in the story-world itself without getting adressed. (at least in the manga)

 

[HelioCesar]

Also a point that always annoyed me a bit is that Saiga had the exact same situation and wish and he simply got it in that way. Its inconsistent in the story-world itself without getting adressed. (at least in the manga)

That is one point too, maybe its a intent nuance in their wishes that was lost in translation.

Another yap since you touched inconsistencies:
I speed 'read' the manga to remember things after commenting and other thing that was done in a poor way was Fuukei and Suiboku motivation to kill each other, Suiboku was a massive arrogant and tyranic person, and admited to abuse Fuukei, seeing this as Suiboku being a dangerous person he trained for thousands years to kill him, having the same attitude as him while so (as the work tried to suggest, it was way more mellow).
Suiboku says he is sorry in his ways and offer Fuukei to kill him, at wich he rejects wating to fight, so what he does? Kills him and 'laments' it, after that says "i smashed him like a bug to show our difference", one could say It was because Fuukei became warped with an inferior complex and It was necessary for his soul to accept the rest and give up, but the whole things was done in such a childsh way that one cant take it serious.
Suiboku could very well subdue Fuukei, protect him and straight his ways again If he was truly sorry.

The author tries to imply that the way of the sword the sages follow is to be able to kill, subdue, repels and such when one wants or needs to, that is, be able to do what you want with a light heart and be moved by streght without malice. But it isnt what is show in the work most of times.
Maybe a lack of maturity in the writing.
The work shines when he writes the more mundane interactions, like Sansui being a instructor, the way Sansui conduts change the people arround him, mostly the byproduca of his training, instead of when he tries to write political and philosophical focused interactions.

 

[Abricomas]

Suiboku could very well subdue Fuukei, protect him and straight his ways again If he was truly sorry.

Suiboku could subdue Fuukei, but would that actually stop Fuukei from continuing to try to break free and kill him? What about the Arcana Kingdom and their need to keep the two from rearranging the landscape? Just this fight alone was destroying the landscape and it would have eventually consumed the Caputo Duchy and the Arcana Kingdome as a whole (Suiboku's last attack that stopped Fuukei was a blast powerful enough to blast a canyon from one end of the kingdom to the other). Shun and Pandora would have tried to kill both of them to achieve that, and it would apparently be a painful and ignoble death.
Fuukei had absolutely no intention of just killing Suiboku and then returning to the land of the Sages; if he had, then he would have done so and that would have been the end of it.

He wanted the fight, he wanted to prove that he had at last surpassed Suiboku. And he would never give up.
Fuukei had the resolve to spend over 3,000 years training for this, and killing Suiboku isn't the point. How is Suiboku subduing Fuukei, and protecting him from the Arcana Kingdom, going to straighten him out?
All it would do is further his rage and harden his resolve to fight Suiboku.

Edit: Additionally, I think some of the blame might be on the translation.
Like, I seriously don't think that Donut Peach is the right translation for the Peaches.
They seem like Peaches of Immortality, and the fruits were translated as coil peaches and divine ginseng in the LN.

 

[Foreverkidd]

Gaaah enough of this politicking, I want Sansui to get back to best girl Brauer and his children.