Jinrouki Winvurga Hangyaku-hen

[SmithsonianRage]

I thought seeing Mashiro getting creampied was pretty good but depending on the time jump between the Voids, maybe we'll see Mashiro be pregnant with a couple of Nemuro's children with broken, empty eyes or maybe Win will be able to see through Nemuro's memories to see how much he gradually break down Mashiro or something. The thing I'm worried about is when Win finally rescues Mashiro, what's gonna be the point of Mashiro's character? If all the major plot points are solved by then, including stuff about Mashiro's own biological family, then what else is Mashiro gonna do by that point? She's basically a side character now.

Maybe Tsunashima will have Mashiro's kids grow up to become the new eight rounds or something? I know that he wanted to do something like this in Jinki before it got cancelled but we'll see.

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They cut off the scene though Hope we will get a flashback or continuation somewhere in the story. Look like this is the end for this arc and we are back to plot advancement.

I'm pretty sure the plot advancement is gonna be like two chapters max lol. I've noticed that we always get like two chapters of plot before we get three straight chapters of rape lol.

 

[Loner210]

I thought seeing Mashiro getting creampied was pretty good but depending on the time jump between the Voids, maybe we'll see Mashiro be pregnant with a couple of Nemuro's children with broken, empty eyes or maybe Win will be able to see through Nemuro's memories to see how much he gradually break down Mashiro or something. The thing I'm worried about is when Win finally rescues Mashiro, what's gonna be the point of Mashiro's character? If all the major plot points are solved by then, including stuff about Mashiro's own biological family, then what else is Mashiro gonna do by that point? She's basically a side character now.

Maybe Tsunashima will have Mashiro's kids grow up to become the new eight rounds or something? I know that he wanted to do something like this in Jinki before it got cancelled but we'll see.


I'm pretty sure the plot advancement is gonna be like two chapters max lol. I've noticed that we always get like two chapters of plot before we get three straight chapters of rape lol.

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You have the same concern as mine. With the way it is now, the whole original series could become pointless. Now it's lỉke all the original girls's existance are to get r lol. Seriously, I truly regret finding out about this series. And after tolering through it, honestly I kind of relief when it got hiatus, and almost forgot about it. Only for this damn"spin-off" to suddenly pop up because of the GL tag lmao. Seriously, can the tag get removed? There are only like 5 chapters or so with that element, and it's not even that important. I think even the Japanese website doesn't use the tag. The rest are all r and r. Does any yuri reader want that?

Also, it's kinda funny to me that a side character (the tiny girl, sorry I forgot her name) is having a decent fate right now, but the previous protagonist is due to a very bad one. Like how low this author can get to? If you want to get back at your previous editor, don't write a whole 50+ chapters to get your readers attach to the protagonist, only to treat her like that right now. It's better to just kill her off soonist and start over in another publisher.

 

[SmithsonianRage]

I mean I don't disagree. But my main problem is that Tsunashima is trying to tell a serious story while essentially just drawing hentai lmao. I'm only reading this series because of the hentai at this point, so the entire plot just feels like it's in the way. And any "bad end" for the characters don't really matter or have any suspense because Win can just have futa lesbian consensual sex to heal them of all their injuries and mental trauma.

 

[sonicZiodx]

I mean I don't disagree. But my main problem is that Tsunashima is trying to tell a serious story while essentially just drawing hentai lmao. I'm only reading this series because of the hentai at this point, so the entire plot just feels like it's in the way. And any "bad end" for the characters don't really matter or have any suspense because Win can just have futa lesbian consensual sex to heal them of all their injuries and mental trauma.

What's even worse is that I feel like the in this manga feels very unnatural compared to og, is that new characters and even win feel very flat cuz they enough characterization or old guys that have many developments feel sudden or straight up feel that don't matter

 

[SmithsonianRage]

What's even worse is that I feel like the in this manga feels very unnatural compared to og, is that new characters and even win feel very flat cuz they enough characterization or old guys that have many developments feel sudden or straight up feel that don't matter

I mean the problem is simple. Tsunashima only really wants to draw NTR, grape, bad endings, and occasionally mechas. Magico’s subplot is the perfect example. In the original series, she and Mashiro’s uncle shared a single conversation. Suddenly, in Rebellion, they’re lovers, with zero development or build-up, just so Tsunashima can draw an NTR scenario. It’s shock value for gooning.

And honestly, most Japanese fans don’t care about the narrative anyway. On JP Twitter, almost nobody discusses the story. The only “plot speculation” you’ll see is stuff like, "Since time flows differently in the Voids, that means that Mashiro will be pregnant with Nemuro's baby!!!" Ironically, the only substantive conversations I’ve had about Winvurga are on 4chan. There the consensus is pretty clear: the porn is hot, but the plot is a complete mess.

Compare that with the original series. Back then, Tsunashima had an editor supervising him. The mecha battles were longer, had tension, and Mashiro’s growth as a character mattered. She always had to reaffirm her convictions that caused her to gain power-ups and awaken as a Spindler. In Rebellion, fights are brief, resolved by Win screaming into a power-up, while someone gets objectified in between. By the next chapter, the trauma is resolved with futanari sex. While I don't like censorship at all, at least there was an actual story.

The worst part about the plot with Mashiro is that she still had so much development to be had. We still don't know why white hair and red eyes is such a superstition in Dominator culture. We still don't know what happened during Shirogane(her mother) and father's fight against the Supreme Commander. We still don't know what a Spindler is. And where the hell is Mashiro's father anyway? All of those plot points related to her don't matter anymore because Win will be the one figuring all that out. Hell, we'll probably get multiple flashback scenes of Mashiro getting tortured and graped. Probably pregnant too.

Think that's too tragic for Mashiro? Don't worry, Win will rescue her and heal her with the power of consensual sex. Oh, you want more character development for Mashiro? The only character development Mashiro is getting now is measured in how many aphrodisiacs she’s been force-fed and how many babies she'll give to Nemuro.

The mecha plot only exists to justify serialization at this point so Tsunashima can make money. In truth, Winvurga is a grape hentai with some mechas slapped onto it.

Stay tuned for when Rebellion goes on another hiatus and this happens to Win

 

[TaurusRex]

I mean the problem is simple. Tsunashima only really wants to draw NTR, grape, bad endings, and occasionally mechas. Magico’s subplot is the perfect example. In the original series, she and Mashiro’s uncle shared a single conversation. Suddenly, in Rebellion, they’re lovers, with zero development or build-up, just so Tsunashima can draw an NTR scenario. It’s shock value for gooning.

And honestly, most Japanese fans don’t care about the narrative anyway. On JP Twitter, almost nobody discusses the story. The only “plot speculation” you’ll see is stuff like, "Since time flows differently in the Voids, that means that Mashiro will be pregnant with Nemuro's baby!!!" Ironically, the only substantive conversations I’ve had about Winvurga are on 4chan. There the consensus is pretty clear: the porn is hot, but the plot is a complete mess.

Compare that with the original series. Back then, Tsunashima had an editor supervising him. The mecha battles were longer, had tension, and Mashiro’s growth as a character mattered. She always had to reaffirm her convictions that caused her to gain power-ups and awaken as a Spindler. In Rebellion, fights are brief, resolved by Win screaming into a power-up, while someone gets objectified in between. By the next chapter, the trauma is resolved with futanari sex. While I don't like censorship at all, at least there was an actual story.

The worst part about the plot with Mashiro is that she still had so much development to be had. We still don't know why white hair and red eyes is such a superstition in Dominator culture. We still don't know what happened during Shirogane(her mother) and father's fight against the Supreme Commander. We still don't know what a Spindler is. And where the hell is Mashiro's father anyway? All of those plot points related to her don't matter anymore because Win will be the one figuring all that out. Hell, we'll probably get multiple flashback scenes of Mashiro getting tortured and graped. Probably pregnant too.

Think that's too tragic for Mashiro? Don't worry, Win will rescue her and heal her with the power of consensual sex. Oh, you want more character development for Mashiro? The only character development Mashiro is getting now is measured in how many aphrodisiacs she’s been force-fed and how many babies she'll give to Nemuro.

The mecha plot only exists to justify serialization at this point so Tsunashima can make money. In truth, Winvurga is a grape hentai with some mechas slapped onto it.

Stay tuned for when Rebellion goes on another hiatus and this happens to Win

Lol. That time difference in various Voids goes both ways. They just focus on one end. Doesn't automatically mean it'll take them a year to get to Dominator's Void. They could pretty much arrive the day after from Mashiro's PoV.

Win aged several years, but from the PoV of other old characters, it was probably a few days. Aoka also saw her younger cousin grow up ahead of her.

Honestly, that's a very tame way of describing the JP fans on Twitter. There's the occasional one that's worried for Mashiro, but it's mostly...people with the same taste as the author.

Spoiler

As for what's left for Mashiro, maybe she could be rescued mid-series and get her own mech, or she pilots a 2-seater with Win, so they can combine their strength inside a single mech.

Or maybe she really is the repeat damsel in distress to the end. There's also a 3rd option. This one's hard to swallow, but there's already an example in the manga. If her Spindler power can return, the author might make her continue the fight Nigou-style... I won't doubt the author's ability to go far at this point.

 

[2domi2]

Caught up to the raws and confused. Anyone know what happened to aoba? She showed up in extend all the way till the cliffhanger, then randomly for like two pages in winvurga and never again. She was in the three games but none of them are canon right?

 

[TaurusRex]

Caught up to the raws and confused. Anyone know what happened to aoba? She showed up in extend all the way till the cliffhanger, then randomly for like two pages in winvurga and never again. She was in the three games but none of them are canon right?

I"m not fully knowledgeable about Jinki, but Win was going through the memory world. And since Aoba and Akao appeared, it looks like this is still the same world or an alternate one with their counterparts existing in the past. Not sure if that's Tachibana below them. The 3rd image is the one resembling Mashiro from the 2nd game. The last girl is from the 3rd game. So I guess the games are canon, to a certain extent at least.

I only remember Akao appearing in the OG Jinrouki Winvurga. And she was talking to a younger Zane. The fact that she exists in the current world is a big question mark because the world settings of Jinki & JW are so different. Maybe if the 3rd game of Jinki was canonically a bad end, then the world of JW was the result.

 

[2domi2]

I"m not fully knowledgeable about Jinki, but Win was going through the memory world. And since Aoba and Akao appeared, it looks like this is still the same world or an alternate one with their counterparts existing in the past. Not sure if that's Tachibana below them. The 3rd image is the one resembling Mashiro from the 2nd game. The last girl is from the 3rd game. So I guess the games are canon, to a certain extent at least.

I only remember Akao appearing in the OG Jinrouki Winvurga. And she was talking to a younger Zane. The fact that she exists in the current world is a big question mark because the world settings of Jinki & JW are so different. Maybe if the 3rd game of Jinki was canonically a bad end, then the world of JW was the result.

Yeah basically this. I feel like maybe the author forgot the plot? because jinki relation went on hiatus so randomly and yet winvurga still used relation characters making it weirder. Factoring in the games and all the alternatie endings and routes makes me think everything is somehow separate or parallel universe's idk lol. I tried reading the authors light novels on his site but they all just seem like what if routes as well. Unless Jinki x-3 and 4 are canon endings for aoba and the relation cast, maybe that explains it somewhat (but also makes main story different from the vns)?

 

[SmithsonianRage]

Lol. That time difference in various Voids goes both ways. They just focus on one end. Doesn't automatically mean it'll take them a year to get to Dominator's Void. They could pretty much arrive the day after from Mashiro's PoV.

Win aged several years, but from the PoV of other old characters, it was probably a few days. Aoka also saw her younger cousin grow up ahead of her.

Honestly, that's a very tame way of describing the JP fans on Twitter. There's the occasional one that's worried for Mashiro, but it's mostly...people with the same taste as the author.

Spoiler

As for what's left for Mashiro, maybe she could be rescued mid-series and get her own mech, or she pilots a 2-seater with Win, so they can combine their strength inside a single mech.

Or maybe she really is the repeat damsel in distress to the end. There's also a 3rd option. This one's hard to swallow, but there's already an example in the manga. If her Spindler power can return, the author might make her continue the fight Nigou-style... I won't doubt the author's ability to go far at this point.

Well Dominator sperm apparently is two times as potent as regular sperm(but they somehow only have a 2% birth rate?). And since all the fans are hoping for Mashiro being pregnant, Tsunashima is definitely going to do it lol. I think that he'll probably have even more flashbacks of Mashiro being defiled, just because she was the old mc and everyone wants to see her broken. There's also the superstition of white hair and red eyes being a sign of good luck.

An even more disturbing prospect is Gloria and Mashiro's child during their captivity being raised up to fight against Win and Dollman's child. I know Tsunashima wanted to do that in Jinki with Akao before it went on an indefinite hiatus, so now that he has zero limits, I feel like he's definitely gonna try something like that.

Yeah basically this. I feel like maybe the author forgot the plot? because jinki relation went on hiatus so randomly and yet winvurga still used relation characters making it weirder. Factoring in the games and all the alternatie endings and routes makes me think everything is somehow separate or parallel universe's idk lol. I tried reading the authors light novels on his site but they all just seem like what if routes as well. Unless Jinki x-3 and 4 are canon endings for aoba and the relation cast, maybe that explains it somewhat (but also makes main story different from the vns)?

I could see Tsunashima trying to relate the Jinki universe and Winvurga universe more as the story goes on.I expect Tsunashima to actually write a serious plot after the old characters have been introduced again(Yomi, Aoka, Tokiba, and Midori) with their own respective grape "arcs."

But with the story's pacing right now, it's probably gonna be years before we find out anything related to Jinki.

 

[TaurusRex]

Saw chapter 32 Raw. Haven't put it through auto translators yet, but...

Spoiler

Kyuu is Kubiko's resurrection! Kubiko is Aoka's fox Jinki that died in OG series. You guys should check out the OG, Chapter 14: Destruction and Sacrifice. Her human face is even there! XD But there's something weird there that only a sequel reader would notice.

Aoka: Kubiko?
Kubiko: Princess, this is where we part. I've lived this long to bring you to her... This is...fate!

As Kubiko was saying this, Winvurga was reflected on her eye. As an OG reader, you would automatically assume she meant Mashiro, who is inside (the male) Winvurga and is Aoka's cousin. As a sequel reader, it looks sus, as she could possibly be referring to Win instead.

My theory is that Kyuu will one day utilize Memento Rei (memory world) to go back, but she doesn't intend to exit in time. Her mind would then be part of Memento Rei, stuck in the past, where she would use anime magic to fuse her mind into the Jinki Kubiko who becomes Aoka's long time caretaker.

Also, is that new mystery Jinki a dragon?

klmanga current link
https://klmanga.md/manga-raw/人狼機ウィンヴルガ―叛逆篇―-raw-free/

Edit: Finally got to read it w/ auto translator...

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Freakin' sly fox really demanded sexy time w/ Win immediately after what happened. Then forced herself on Win (kiss). Translator was really rough this time, but I think she's trying to devalue Mashiro, emotionally breaking down Win further, & presenting herself as the emotional support Win needs.

 

[Valliente42]

Since volume four has chapters from the original series does the translation team plan to translate the volume chapters or the magazine chapters?
https://bookwalker.jp/de77eba0a7-d57b-43e3-aabb-9692f84137a3/

 

[Valliente42]

Here is the latest raw.
https://klmanga.pl/manga-raw/人狼機ウィンヴルガ―叛逆篇―-raw-free/
I just saw the latest raw and I was wondering is that girl Mashiro's daughter through Nemuro's rape?

 

[zurickuu]

anyone know of similar manga/manhwa/whatever like this?

 

[Valliente42]

anyone know of similar manga/manhwa/whatever like this?

I don't sorry.

 

[LilithRaven]

The chapter 31 raw is out...

Right... Time to rant... Sorry, this is long...
(-__-)'

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Yeah, it really happened... For recaps, Chapter 29 stated that Mashiro has multiple hymen. Looks like 5 based on the illustration. Nemuro was counting up to 4 clearly. After that, he says something along the lines of "this is the last one" but there was no clear count to 5, so even the JP readers seem to be confused if he was referring to the previous hymen #4 or #5 that he's about to break next...

Another thing to keep in mind is that time runs differently on different Voids. They could arrive as soon as a few hours on Dominator's Void, or up to a year. Since Win was able to grow up, the current Void runs faster from the Void where Midori's base was on, but we don't have a clear measure of Midori's Void vs Dominator Void. For more reference, when Amatsu no Yomi was attacked, from the inside it looked like a quick succession. But from outside their Void, the Dominators had prep time in-between. And Void Mueller also runs much faster than Amatsu no Yomi. Mashiro was actually born after Aoka.

And then there's that dude w/ glasses that kissed Win. His name is also Nemuro. Could be ugly Nemuro's little brother, cousin, or something else... He confirmed Gloria's at least alive, btw. When he was captured, he was telling Dolman about Gloria's hospital bills, but Dolman says he's broke.

Lastly, I'm betting on a 50/50 chance we can't trust Kyuu around Mashiro. Looks like she's going yandere, and she might see saving Mashiro as the root of Win's pain. (And we all know she's just a 3rd party in their love story.)

Personally, I wish the author would save the bad routes for his games... Mashiro's, at least...

Extra: Putting the nature of this manga aside, I gotta give it to the author for having the balls to go through with his creative choices, especially in today's level of censorship. Very often, we see authors trying to explore risky topics (less risky than this!), but they don't have the balls to go through with it, resulting in pointless, repeated, half-baked attempts that are better off not happening in the first place. Or in his case, outside forces telling him how he should write his own story. Not just with this kind of topic. Violence, gore, costumes... Google Play forcing a game to remove majority of its PAID character costumes... The current accusations on Visa & MasterCard... Even Nintendo's cartoon cow is being targeted by censorship because having a ring on its nose is animal abuse. Modern censorship is just so tiring. People have become so soft, they try to control everyone else, and antagonize people for disagreeing with their self-centered ideals.

well, thanks for saving me the trouble of trying to read the first 3 chapters to see if the GL tag is worth it, clearly i do not need that idea given what you said about hymen in there……..also it’s funny the author was so against censorship and all of that, but the reason i will not read this is because it’s hentai garbage quality of story

 

[longxa762]

anyone know of similar manga/manhwa/whatever like this?

Satanophany, Ingoshima, any series from Haruki (春輝), Eros Survival (untranslated), trash., if you want NTR then GraPara, Chijou 100, Guilty Circle. The translator (Forlorn Hope) for those series have a discord link on their profile so you can ask there for more.

 

[SmithsonianRage]

Chapter 33 spoilers We see the new pilot fight Avant Rogue for a bit before kidnapping Nigou. Then Dollman, the chad he is, tries to get Win to save her. Dollman appeals to Win by he's going to save Gloria before leaving due to Kyuu acting like a psycho yandere gf. Meanwhile, the new pilot seems to be after Nigou's authority on the Void but the pilot doesn't act like she's a part of the Dominators. Win sees the destruction that the pilot did, with Kyuu essentially telling Win to run away from everything. Win flashbacks to the NTR scene where she manages to catch Mashiro's words right before the memory cutoff. As if Mashiro is communicating to Win, she tells Nemuro that she feels Win inside her heart, giving her the hope that Winvurga is alive. Mashiro says that no matter how "dirty" she gets or what state she'll end up in, she will wait to "connect" with Winvurga once again. Win seemingly gains a new power up, with the old Winvurga mecha emerging from like a shadow.

Nice to see Mashiro acting like herself, despite her tragic current state. But I hope this doesn't mean that Tsunashima just sidelines her forever until she gets saved by Win. Anyway, the power up that Win gets in this chapter is kinda similar to the Moriboto Type 2 shadow mecha the the Supreme Commander used when he beat Mashiro. I wonder if the Supreme Commander is a Reincarnated Jinki like Win?

 

[Loner210]

well, thanks for saving me the trouble of trying to read the first 3 chapters to see if the GL tag is worth it, clearly i do not need that idea given what you said about hymen in there……..also it’s funny the author was so against censorship and all of that, but the reason i will not read this is because it’s hentai garbage quality of story

Yeah, they will never remove the tag, just like what happened with Satanophany lol. Like they can't comprehense that there can be LGBT characters in a non yuri/yaoi manga, where the gay element isn't the main plot. Like they tried to get more readers for said series, only to get more hate lol. On Mangaupdates there are tags like LGBT scenes for this, so people can get an idea. But here, they just use the genre tag even for the slightest sight of LGBT.

 

[Loner210]

Chapter 33 spoilers We see the new pilot fight Avant Rogue for a bit before kidnapping Nigou. Then Dollman, the chad he is, tries to get Win to save her. Dollman appeals to Win by he's going to save Gloria before leaving due to Kyuu acting like a psycho yandere gf. Meanwhile, the new pilot seems to be after Nigou's authority on the Void but the pilot doesn't act like she's a part of the Dominators. Win sees the destruction that the pilot did, with Kyuu essentially telling Win to run away from everything. Win flashbacks to the NTR scene where she manages to catch Mashiro's words right before the memory cutoff. As if Mashiro is communicating to Win, she tells Nemuro that she feels Win inside her heart, giving her the hope that Winvurga is alive. Mashiro says that no matter how "dirty" she gets or what state she'll end up in, she will wait to "connect" with Winvurga once again. Win seemingly gains a new power up, with the old Winvurga mecha emerging from like a shadow.

Nice to see Mashiro acting like herself, despite her tragic current state. But I hope this doesn't mean that Tsunashima just sidelines her forever until she gets saved by Win. Anyway, the power up that Win gets in this chapter is kinda similar to the Moriboto Type 2 shadow mecha the the Supreme Commander used when he beat Mashiro. I wonder if the Supreme Commander is a Reincarnated Jinki like Win?

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It does look like she will get sidelined for at least a dozen chapters more, because I don't think the rescue can be done in just a few lmao. Unless powered up Win just comes to their base, breaks in, takes her and leaves lol.