JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken Dai-9-bu: The JOJOLands - Ch. 36 - Usagi, Fraud, and Suspicion Part 4

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Japan is exempt from 'woke nonsense' simply because their schools and teachers do not teach their students the same subjects in the same way as in your country.

People like Araki Toshiyuki grew up in a Japanese school environment from the 1970s to 1980s, well past the 1960s Zenkyoutou, which was when the Japanese left lost and all of the students who participated found themselves unable to land good jobs in companies (so they started getting jobs editing manga magazines), but because Zenkyoto lost badly and were seen as losers even among former participants, their memes were considered lame, so the former left-wing manga magazine editors generally didn't insert their visions of a world-wide revolution into their magazines, and instead sought escape in smaller worlds. While Japanese like to form groups, which is how doujinshi formed (同人誌) where multiple people come together to form a Circle (サークル), they do not form organisations like the ones in western countries.

Doujinshi artists mingled together and people of completely opposing viewpoints simply had to get along, which is different from what's happening in western countries thanks to your school systems where there's an intense red vs blue, and situations where people on team red or team blue will eat themselves because they failed some purity test.

Hence why Araki can have a character who is not gender-conforming, and have a brother who refers to them as their brother without being demonised. The same goes for Oda Eiichirou who'll have okama characters, who are both good and bad guys, and people who are terrified of them, and none of these different viewpoints are demonised in his manga. It's alright to be okama, and it's alright to think okama are weird. Just like it's alright for Dragona and Jodio to be how they are. If this is woke, then it's the kind of Japanese brand of woke westerners, including the users here throwing around words like transphobic, should emulate. People need to cooperate and get along.
 
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I find it amazing that Jodio doesn't understand the concept of his sister being trans yet, but already stkld against her first bad boyfriend
 
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Japan is exempt from 'woke nonsense' simply because their schools and teachers do not teach their students the same subjects in the same way as in your country.

People like Araki Toshiyuki grew up in a Japanese school environment from the 1970s to 1980s, well past the 1960s Zenkyoutou, which was when the Japanese left lost and all of the students who participated found themselves unable to land good jobs in companies (so they started getting jobs editing manga magazines), but because Zenkyoto lost badly and were seen as losers even among former participants, their memes were considered lame, so the former left-wing manga magazine editors generally didn't insert their visions of a world-wide revolution into their magazines, and instead sought escape in smaller worlds. While Japanese like to form groups, which is how doujinshi formed (同人誌) where multiple people come together to form a Circle (サークル), they do not form organisations like the ones in western countries.

Doujinshi artists mingled together and people of completely opposing viewpoints simply had to get along, which is different from what's happening in western countries thanks to your school systems where there's an intense red vs blue, and situations where people on team red or team blue will eat themselves because they failed some purity test.

Hence why Araki can have a character who is not gender-conforming, and have a brother who refers to them as their brother without being demonised. The same goes for Oda Eiichirou who'll have okama characters, who are both good and bad guys, and people who are terrified of them, and none of these different viewpoints are demonised in his manga. It's alright to be okama, and it's alright to think okama are weird. Just like it's alright for Dragona and Jodio to be how they are. If this is woke, then it's the kind of Japanese brand of woke westerners, including the users here throwing around words like transphobic, should emulate. People need to cooperate and get along.
Those people who post it think Araki wrote it for western which is retarded, so I believe we just ignore them and moves on.

Believe me they dont even know Bon Clay or Betham the classic Okama queen when you mention Oda.
 
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In chapter 11, when Usagi said that he was in love with Dragona, Dragona said,“Thanks, but we siblings aren’t particularly interested in that.” even though it was mentioned that he had a boyfriend in the past in chapter 36.
 
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Jodio being transphobic is a wild characterization detail
I think he just has "dead-pronoun privileges" as Dragona's younger sibling. By complete coincidence I have a friend who has the same situation with her younger brother.
 
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Chuds will clutch their pearls in terror at the thought of trans people existing in the completely hetero and totally right wing manga they first started reading as kids because they're vaguely aware and frightened of the fact that the world is leaving them behind. And the only people still on their side (believers in racism, transphobia, etc.) are 70+ year old unanimously reviled war criminals and best friends of Epstein.

Their last bastion of psychological defense is in convincing themselves that The Wokening of the world (People fighting for equal rights) is somehow ONLY taking place in the country that they live in. And that in Japan, "The Japanese" can't possibly care about things like LGBT rights... for no real reason. (They basically imagine Japanese people as like some kind of uncontacted separate species still trapped in some 1700s-style societal stasis) 'They don't have liberal colleges woking up the youth like America does' is basically all they have.

The idea that there could be queer people FROM Japan, who are fighting for equal rights where they live just like queer people across the rest of the planet are doing, is equally beyond their imagination, as they only look media meant for gradeschool boys, and think that encompasses the entirety of social thought there.

All this: Transexuals!? Bisexuals?! In their JoJos!?!? It completely blindsides them. And makes them very sad lol.
 
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This forum is a warzone. Anyway theres a possibility that dragona is trying to the concept of a Māhū, "people in hawaiian culture that embody both male and female spirit" and is why they're fine being called any. though I still believe its them being trans, both are pretty valid answers imo
 
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Japan is exempt from 'woke nonsense' simply because their schools and teachers do not teach their students the same subjects in the same way as in your country.

People like Araki Toshiyuki grew up in a Japanese school environment from the 1970s to 1980s, well past the 1960s Zenkyoutou, which was when the Japanese left lost and all of the students who participated found themselves unable to land good jobs in companies (so they started getting jobs editing manga magazines), but because Zenkyoto lost badly and were seen as losers even among former participants, their memes were considered lame, so the former left-wing manga magazine editors generally didn't insert their visions of a world-wide revolution into their magazines, and instead sought escape in smaller worlds. While Japanese like to form groups, which is how doujinshi formed (同人誌) where multiple people come together to form a Circle (サークル), they do not form organisations like the ones in western countries.

Doujinshi artists mingled together and people of completely opposing viewpoints simply had to get along, which is different from what's happening in western countries thanks to your school systems where there's an intense red vs blue, and situations where people on team red or team blue will eat themselves because they failed some purity test.

Hence why Araki can have a character who is not gender-conforming, and have a brother who refers to them as their brother without being demonised. The same goes for Oda Eiichirou who'll have okama characters, who are both good and bad guys, and people who are terrified of them, and none of these different viewpoints are demonised in his manga. It's alright to be okama, and it's alright to think okama are weird. Just like it's alright for Dragona and Jodio to be how they are. If this is woke, then it's the kind of Japanese brand of woke westerners, including the users here throwing around words like transphobic, should emulate. People need to cooperate and get along.
araki himself was inspired by gay/queer artists and you can very clearly see it in part 2 covers, a prominent one being part 2 chapter 68s cover, which is a direct reference to the artist antonio lopez who was openly gay. anyway if you're gonna call any sort of queer representation "woke nonsense" then jjba isn't for you
 

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