Juunenme, Kikan wo Akirameta Tenisha wa Imasara Shujinkou ni naru - Vol. 4 Ch. 14

[Riorio56]

Thank you for this update. I honestly though no one gonna update this good Manga

 

[Kendrakirai]

Feels like the author is just spilling bullshit, retcons and shitty logic for 95% of that chapter.

A huge part of the problem is that the twins are being spun as creative geniuses... Then they give away their potion ownership rights.

Thing is, they don't want to be forced to handle all this stuff. They're creative geniuses as a hobby, their actual goal is to get the MC to smash like the incredible hulk.

That said, I'd still totally add a couple more zeroes to the amount the old man offered. Ten gold is just insulting.

 

[cryum]

Bastard forgot such an important point lmao.

Thing is, they don't want to be forced to handle all this stuff. They're creative geniuses as a hobby, their actual goal is to get the MC to smash like the incredible hulk.

That said, I'd still totally add a couple more zeroes to the amount the old man offered. Ten gold is just insulting.

They deserved at least a full set of the very best gear and transport the city can offer. And it's not like they're out of stock of the premium magic items that owner guy was making.

 

[ScryedParadox]

Oh right. This manga exists. It's been so long... How long until he finally just sleeps with the twins? Well, since it's not really the main focus of the story, probably will take forever for that.

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

Bro sees our boy with twins fawning all over him, admits complete and total defear

 

[ryuumajin]

My head busted when they tried to talk that economical stuff...
eeeeeh, let's sum up...

1) Clear a dungeon
2) The drop Mana density will move the animals naturally
3) The animals and monsters will be tamed, some kind of farm
4) Euuuh, the potion will be sold as sparkly potion for adventurers and wine for the rich...
5) ...the... rights to sell... or something... the old man is upset because of something...? No, at this point I don't get what the twin aim for....

 

[Khazar123]

Don't you want everybody to be able to get their hands on it.

Okay and a 1% royalty for you is preventing that?

Well with this Manga's young target audience, expect a lot more of this "throw out logic for feel good moment".

 

[StormSen]

It works if the process of creating of new businesses (and potentially leech off technology and practices from another world as a side effect) is way more fun and rewarding than expanding empire focusing on one or handful of successful ideas.

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Thing is, they don't want to be forced to handle all this stuff. They're creative geniuses as a hobby, their actual goal is to get the MC to smash like the incredible hulk.

That said, I'd still totally add a couple more zeroes to the amount the old man offered. Ten gold is just insulting.

From the very start of the manga the twins are given the characteristic of savvy manipulators (cooly acting as manipulators while being trapped in their household). Also they are raised by parents who built a business empire. They're consistently shown as great planners after that. That combined (especially) their business upbringing, means that they would always look for a chance to make money. And they definitely wouldn't walk away from a chance that lands in their lap. Yet the author has them do exactly that.

Now of course, business wise, you can trade an immediate win for a longer term payoff. But that's something that has to be very clear, negotiated in writing with legal documentation, etc. There's no such tradeoff here. So that makes no sense.

Related note: Giving away a potential business for free is not going to earn credits from other businessmen, but instead disdain -- because they've just proven to the other businessmen that they're completely incompetent at business.

As for not running the business... That's fine, they're busy. But that means either: 1) hiring a business manager to do it for them while retaining full ownership; or 2) selling it for a huge immediate profit; or 3) selling it for less, but retaining a percentage interest or a revenue interest.

 

[Bananoman6]

Thanks for pour picking this up

 

[Kur-o_O-kami]

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From the very start of the manga the twins are given the characteristic of savvy manipulators (cooly acting as manipulators while being trapped in their household). Also they are raised by parents who built a business empire. They're consistently shown as great planners after that. That combined (especially) their business upbringing, means that they would always look for a chance to make money. And they definitely wouldn't walk away from a chance that lands in their lap. Yet the author has them do exactly that.

Now of course, business wise, you can trade an immediate win for a longer term payoff. But that's something that has to be very clear, negotiated in writing with legal documentation, etc. There's no such tradeoff here. So that makes no sense.

Related note: Giving away a potential business for free is not going to earn credits from other businessmen, but instead disdain -- because they've just proven to the other businessmen that they're completely incompetent at business.

As for not running the business... That's fine, they're busy. But that means either: 1) hiring a business manager to do it for them while retaining full ownership; or 2) selling it for a huge immediate profit; or 3) selling it for less, but retaining a percentage interest or a revenue interest.

Quite a long rant. But example of opposite logic is ever popular startups in tech sector. Build and groomed to be sold at the infancy.

 

[Mageos]

Thank you for picking this up! The TL quality is amazing!!

 

[Phantaminium]

Thanks for picking this up.

Feels like the author is just spilling bullshit, retcons and shitty logic for 95% of that chapter.

Where's the bullshit? Or retcons? We weren't given enough details on this guys background to know what it was until this chapter but it doesn't contradict anything that came before. I struggle to see what your complaint is?

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From the very start of the manga the twins are given the characteristic of savvy manipulators (cooly acting as manipulators while being trapped in their household). Also they are raised by parents who built a business empire. They're consistently shown as great planners after that. That combined (especially) their business upbringing, means that they would always look for a chance to make money. And they definitely wouldn't walk away from a chance that lands in their lap. Yet the author has them do exactly that.

The first motivation the twins were given was shutting down and resolving the ills caused by hassran utilising their parents business. They were the savvy manipulators insofar as they had ideas but their clear weakness was a means to execute on them. Their focus was shown to be reverse isekai weebs and the inherited will of their parents when it came to trading.

Now of course, business wise, you can trade an immediate win for a longer term payoff. But that's something that has to be very clear, negotiated in writing with legal documentation, etc. There's no such tradeoff here. So that makes no sense.

Related note: Giving away a potential business for free is not going to earn credits from other businessmen, but instead disdain -- because they've just proven to the other businessmen that they're completely incompetent at business.

As for not running the business... That's fine, they're busy. But that means either: 1) hiring a business manager to do it for them while retaining full ownership; or 2) selling it for a huge immediate profit; or 3) selling it for less, but retaining a percentage interest or a revenue interest.

I don't know why you're so focused on how poor a decision it is to sell off the sparkling potion business. They clearly have the skill and talent to develop such ideas with ease. Not to mention the whole sparkling potion endeavour was initially a matter of curiosity. They went to the hot spring town, tried the sparkling potion and liked it. They tried taking it out of the town and it didn't work out so they developed it themselves perhaps inspired by Matiko's enthusiasm for his clock thing.

The appeal with making it sparkle seems more linked to them being regular earth weebs and wanting sparkling products in general. They've not shown a significant monetary incentive at any point. In fact they've shown more than anything an interest in product development and planning, they thing that intrigued them most about the initial gold coin scheme was the method and that's what they were most intrigued by.

Their biggest motivation since meeting MC has been revolving around him. What's a business they won't need that can resolve a situation in the meantime that can also let them see results on another curiosity, domesticating monsters.

I again don't see why you're so focused on what is clearly not the motivation of these characters.

 

[Xel-naga]

I have missed this, thanks for resurrecting it.

 

[Yuyu_yusha]

The 'keeping the town economy or saving human life' conflict resolved rather bland imo. Yes, they just need to knock some sense into this guy head, but with just 'we avoiding our responsibilities'? What's with the grandeur 'kill me, kill town' speech then? What's that point?
In the next chapter, i bet all of the merchants that against sealing the dungeon suddenly become 'Yes Man' and just follow through without a problem. (It reminds me of certain courier following Mad Robot instruction to conquer Gambling Den without so much of a doubt)
Geez, man, Naruto talk no jutsu, as annoying as it could be, still show more 'oomph' to this.
Yeah, well, i am glad this arc is over and they go to new business adventures.

 

[BanzaiYuri]

Thanks for the chapter! Glad he's such a blockhead that he forgot such an important thing XD

 

[Xonthelon]

I don't really understand why they didn't demand a cut of the profits. Even just 1% would mean a bit of passive income and that would accumulate if they plan to start a new venture in every town.

Although I'm also surprised the dungeon just stays as it is after being sealed. The town now has vast (and soon safe) indoor fields and storages. With such an advantage building up new industries shouldn't be too difficult.