Kajiya de Hajimeru Isekai Slow Life - Ch. 24

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You don't actually need to do 1000 folds if you start with good quality metal.
Folding doesn't remove impurities, it just spreads them out evenly so there are no large-sized defects.
European steel never needed folding because of its higher quality.
This effect is seen in modern katanas, a high carbon steel or even a spring steel katana is way, way, way more durable than a traditionally made katana, and retains its edge better, and is almost certainly cheaper, too. If you can make the thing out of a single lump of metal, it will have far fewer points of failure.
 
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I guess my rather cheap katana has suguha hamon. It doesn't have that clear wave pattern.
 
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It’s interesting to see people reframe real engineering in the context of settings which lack that technology, from Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court on up to modern isekai.

Obviously the author did their research, the production of the katana is as best I know factually accurate, but… why? The blacksmith‘s weapons are already impossibly sharp and durable, able to cut through steel and a human body without a scratch or blemish. The purpose of using a core steel and differential hardening is to make a blade more durable, how much more durable does a sword benefit from being?

There’s always the narrative arms race common in manga, where every weapon and spell has to be better than the last one until everyone’s nuking countries. I guess we need a sword to cut through the adamantium golem. From a crafting perspective there is also something to be said for doing things traditionally, but all this just strikes me as strange. A big part of craftsmanship, whether that’s blacksmithing or woodworking or pottery or baking or whatever, is understanding how a product is going to be used or consumed and working around that idea. Craftsmen have limited time, a key element of technology is getting better results with less time or effort. This sword will be, for all purposes we have seen, no more effective or durable than other swords MC’s already made and took more work.

I only thought about this because the second half of this chapter is fermenting bread, which makes total sense. Bakers ferment bread to give better texture and softness. Secondarily, how it’s fermented can impact flavor. It’s super reasonable to use fermented apples, or whatever source of yeast you can find, to make bread better. If you were already able to make fluffy apple bread, on par with a Japanese or French boulangerie, would you then make a version fermented with wild apple yeast? Probably not.

I recognize this is a ridiculous critique for a manga that’s mostly cute girls and general overviews of food and blacksmithing technologies.
 
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@UncannyGodot, that's a nice point, especially keeping in mind that the mc supposedly understands that he makes WEAPONS that KILL. His weapons are really good at KILLING. And this theme is brought up quite a fex times, but he ultimately brushes it off. I guess the whole setting of this manga is pg-13, in a sense that, people and demons do not kill each other, just incapacitating is fine, but then again it seems pointless...
I recognize this is a ridiculous critique for a manga that’s mostly cute girls and general overviews of food and blacksmithing technologies.
Anyways, at first I thought you were just ranting, but honestly it is hard not to when this plotpoint is this underdeveloped.
 
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You don't actually need to do 1000 folds if you start with good quality metal.
Folding doesn't remove impurities, it just spreads them out evenly so there are no large-sized defects.
European steel never needed folding because of its higher quality.
Something of an oversimplification. Japanese steel wouldn't be shitty if they could get their forges to a high enough temperature. Like, it's a lot of tiny factors but if you can get your furnaces hot enough you can burn out the impurities. The Tatara was used to get iron from iron sand, but it the process was incomplete. theoretically if you got the furnace hot enough you could separate the iron from the silicate(slag) and get steel as good as the Europeans but the Tatara couldn't reach those tempratures.
 
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Obviously the author did their research, the production of the katana is as best I know factually accurate, but… why? The blacksmith‘s weapons are already impossibly sharp and durable, able to cut through steel and a human body without a scratch or blemish. The purpose of using a core steel and differential hardening is to make a blade more durable, how much more durable does a sword benefit from being?

Part of it is to teach Rike, but also himself.
Remember that those super OP blades were all done when he fully use his cheat, but that's how he views it. CHEAT.
He want to be able to do with his own hand as well instead of always relying on the cheat.

And he's not trying to make a weapon arms race you speak of, he's trying to make a weapon that fit his customers' needs.
That's why he STILL make 'regular' knives and such to sell through the merchant, even with the occasional thing like the mithril blade with the elf before.

Because if we only care about the arms race, we know the ending from ch 1 already.
 
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With his cheats he doesn't need to use traditional methods of making a katana. If you can just magically homogenize it, you don't need to fold it, because that's exactly what folding does. You don't remove impurities; you spread them around. Unless of course he means something different with "homogenize".

The use of soft and hard steel is correct, though. More or less.

That's something a lot of people miss. The curve of a katana comes from the quenching. While forging, it's straight.

Various swordsmiths used different hamon patterns to make their swords more unique.

That looks like a rather good yeast. To just make that yourself is a bit difficult.

The groove is generally called a fuller on Western swords. No idea if Japanese use a different term. Well, translated. And no idea if they actually used that on katanas, since I'm not familiar with that.

Some nice expressions.

European steel never needed folding because of its higher quality.
Never say never. It depends on period. Early steel was poorer quality, and was folded.

From a crafting perspective there is also something to be said for doing things traditionally, but all this just strikes me as strange.
That's my take on it. He does it because he wants to, not because he needs to.

I recognize this is a ridiculous critique for a manga that’s mostly cute girls and general overviews of food and blacksmithing technologies.
Absolutely! You'd have to be insane to write down a bunch of serious-sounding critique for a random fanservice manga!
 

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