Kamikakushi no Eden - Vol. 5 Ch. 20 - Nonexistential Warmth

[MangaDex]

 

[hitohito1]

Damn she thick at the right places.

 

[dexdoujinmanga]

Would you mind a cliffhanger swallow you too?

 

[Septazia]

Would you mind a cliffhanger swallow you too?

A cliffhanger ending .....to another one, ah it hurts......
For a volume extra the author could have drawn something "nicer" thought, still an interesting view on the girls.
Thanks for the translation.

 

[seekermoc]

There are few tropes I hate more in manga than the drama associated with an "evil" adult doing what seems to be unnecessarily horrible things to kids for reasons the reader isn't privy to.

Now we just need to wait and see whether he's really evil, or if there's some legit reason for his antagonism.

 

[Lunasol]

"No. Why should I let it to swallow me?"


Plus look at the poor MC. He almost went insane because of it.
I think he is already insane in first place.

You SHOULD explain why it is "good" for you. 💢

Edit: Also I got a feeling that they make similar to "holy grail system". DIdn't they said that they need another three after three went "vanished".

 

[seekermoc]

"No. Why should I let it to swallow me?"

Seriously. I'm going to be pissed if that's not what the next chapter starts off with.

 

[Lunasol]

Seriously. I'm going to be pissed if that's not what the next chapter starts off with.

Or at least she slap her.
That is also good enough for me.

 

[Grailm]

We dont need vore in this series. So, no swallowing.

 

[Lunasol]

There are few tropes I hate more in manga than the drama associated with an "evil" adult doing what seems to be unnecessarily horrible things to kids for reasons the reader isn't privy to.

Now we just need to wait and see whether he's really evil, or if there's some legit reason for his antagonism.

It piss me off that He DIDN'T explain MC why he did that like a "good old villain". Shoulda tell him about the goal (end goal, i think?).

 

[Lunasol]

We dont need vore in this series. So, no swallowing.

That is what i want to hear it.

 

[UdenEmpati]

I think the part that makes this difficult to are is that we have all questions and really no answers.

And it's been 5 volumes of writing, it feels like we have all questions, no answers, and every time they start to get somewhere, it's either a half-dead end or something tragic happens.

• They found the scroll for bringing back lost beings in Shirai's family home, but it was mostly destroyed; they are starting to collect the Magatama pieces, but they're being directly interfered with by Senjuro, and apparently Hebizono - the latter of which acts like she cares about Hinata, but is a complete enigma and also is not above antagonizing him and Shirai & Momoka, and getting in their way of trying to find his sister.
• We don't know Shirai's family history and purpose beyond "guarding the Gap", we don't actually know where Hinata's sister has gone, or why Momoka could sorta remember her back in chapter 4, but only in the sense that the memory was nonsensical without someone else being there that she couldn't recall.
• The Gap and the Magatama pieces require sexual acts to locate and to activate, respectively - I know that the erotica's a selling point in a meta sense, but in-story I don't recall us getting an explanation/justification for why sexual acts are required as the ritual, insofar as one that makes sense within the setting.
• Hebizono (to reiterate) is both sympathetic but at best a stonewalling force who seems completely unwilling to budge on anything that would move the plot forward for the MC. She's entirely an impeding force, while also giving zero answers or explanation to the MC about anything, because it's in his apparent best interest to simply forget all of this and walk away? Which if he did, would kill the plot entirely, but she's giving no ground on actually either helping, or stepping aside, and it's left the main trio floundering in trying to find a way forward.
• Sejuro, the apparent active antagonist, has what appears to be a martially-trained high school girl working at his behest, but other than the fact that he seems able to at least direct, if not outright control, the Nenokami and is intent on erasing people (thus far, only adolescent girls, from what we know) from existence, and we're not supposed to believe that it's "important enough work" that his assistant has appeared before one of the two main female lead characters and requested that she allow herself to also be 'consumed'.

There's just... fragments of story and backdrop and the merest clues about how to proceed, but these are just three high school kids fighting otherworldly forces with no special abilities, and a nefarious, entirely enigmatic antagonistic adult figure who has powers, but reveals absolutely nothing about why any of this is happening in the first place, and a third rogue force in Hebizono who also possesses powers and also actively prevents the MC from proceeding with his desired goal. And his goal is just to get his sister back - but now another girl is gone, and he blames himself, and he's really no closer to any answers than he was back in chapter 2.
Yes, clues have been found, but he's just stuck collecting pieces of a key and then he has to find the Boundary Castle, and the rest of that Scroll was destroyed from there - and that was before they were being actively hunted.

Maybe it'll all start coming together now that the assistant has contacted Shirai. Without knowing where we ostensibly sit in terms of the overall story, though, I feel like this could just get dragged on forever, the way things are going.

--

EDIT - and of course, how / why Hinata, the MC, is seemingly the only one not affected by the nenokami's erasure of the existence/memory of anyone/thing consumed by them.

Sejuro doesn't confirm whether or not he remembers; it could be argued he knows someone disappeared, but not who they were, and infers that whatever goal he's working toward has progressed because of Hinata's words & behavior at the end of the previous chapter. He said "three left", but again - there might be some sort of system/check method, and not that he's also aware.

If he does remember, then it better not come out that Hinata's related to him in some fashion - "antagonistic family member/organization/force" just feels like a shitty trope when Hinata's being kept fully in the dark, and would really need something compelling to sell it, in my mind.
But...I feel like with Shirai's family being tied to the Unsatisfied Gap, means that Hinata is also in some familial fashion which explains why he retains his memory of those Erased.

So. Yeah.

 

[BobBob]

How about Boobdyguard gets herself eaten first, huh?

 

[seekermoc]

Boobdyguard

Giggity

 

[Amariithynar]

In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, the father probably remembers the daughter, which is why that face when he turns his back.

 

[BebopZX2]

I think the part that makes this difficult to are is that we have all questions and really no answers.

And it's been 5 volumes of writing, it feels like we have all questions, no answers, and every time they start to get somewhere, it's either a half-dead end or something tragic happens.

• They found the scroll for bringing back lost beings in Shirai's family home, but it was mostly destroyed; they are starting to collect the Magatama pieces, but they're being directly interfered with by Senjuro, and apparently Hebizono - the latter of which acts like she cares about Hinata, but is a complete enigma and also is not above antagonizing him and Shirai & Momoka, and getting in their way of trying to find his sister.
• We don't know Shirai's family history and purpose beyond "guarding the Gap", we don't actually know where Hinata's sister has gone, or why Momoka could sorta remember her back in chapter 4, but only in the sense that the memory was nonsensical without someone else being there that she couldn't recall.
• The Gap and the Magatama pieces require sexual acts to locate and to activate, respectively - I know that the erotica's a selling point in a meta sense, but in-story I don't recall us getting an explanation/justification for why sexual acts are required as the ritual, insofar as one that makes sense within the setting.
• Hebizono (to reiterate) is both sympathetic but at best a stonewalling force who seems completely unwilling to budge on anything that would move the plot forward for the MC. She's entirely an impeding force, while also giving zero answers or explanation to the MC about anything, because it's in his apparent best interest to simply forget all of this and walk away? Which if he did, would kill the plot entirely, but she's giving no ground on actually either helping, or stepping aside, and it's left the main trio floundering in trying to find a way forward.
• Sejuro, the apparent active antagonist, has what appears to be a martially-trained high school girl working at his behest, but other than the fact that he seems able to at least direct, if not outright control, the Nenokami and is intent on erasing people (thus far, only adolescent girls, from what we know) from existence, and we're not supposed to believe that it's "important enough work" that his assistant has appeared before one of the two main female lead characters and requested that she allow herself to also be 'consumed'.

There's just... fragments of story and backdrop and the merest clues about how to proceed, but these are just three high school kids fighting otherworldly forces with no special abilities, and a nefarious, entirely enigmatic antagonistic adult figure who has powers, but reveals absolutely nothing about why any of this is happening in the first place, and a third rogue force in Hebizono who also possesses powers and also actively prevents the MC from proceeding with his desired goal. And his goal is just to get his sister back - but now another girl is gone, and he blames himself, and he's really no closer to any answers than he was back in chapter 2.
Yes, clues have been found, but he's just stuck collecting pieces of a key and then he has to find the Boundary Castle, and the rest of that Scroll was destroyed from there - and that was before they were being actively hunted.

Maybe it'll all start coming together now that the assistant has contacted Shirai. Without knowing where we ostensibly sit in terms of the overall story, though, I feel like this could just get dragged on forever, the way things are going.

--

EDIT - and of course, how / why Hinata, the MC, is seemingly the only one not affected by the nenokami's erasure of the existence/memory of anyone/thing consumed by them.

Sejuro doesn't confirm whether or not he remembers; it could be argued he knows someone disappeared, but not who they were, and infers that whatever goal he's working toward has progressed because of Hinata's words & behavior at the end of the previous chapter. He said "three left", but again - there might be some sort of system/check method, and not that he's also aware.

If he does remember, then it better not come out that Hinata's related to him in some fashion - "antagonistic family member/organization/force" just feels like a shitty trope when Hinata's being kept fully in the dark, and would really need something compelling to sell it, in my mind.
But...I feel like with Shirai's family being tied to the Unsatisfied Gap, means that Hinata is also in some familial fashion which explains why he retains his memory of those Erased.

So. Yeah.

Honestly, gotta be the most backwards story but after kazehaya's death this story has to do something worthwhile as shirai becoming some "victim" isn't it at all even if we learn getting eaten isn't the end all. We need hinata to be someone as unlike a similar ecchi series futoku no guild, the story hasn't been cutting us some slack for how bleak it is for the teens.

 

[Gilthwixt]

In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, the father probably remembers the daughter, which is why that face when he turns his back.

He'd have to be a genuinely good actor to keep a straight face like that then, because how do you even fake nonchalance about that.

My theory is that he actually doesn't remember his daughter, but he knows enough about The Gap that he immediately understood what this meant, and a wave of dread washed over him as he realized there's stuff going on in The Gap without his knowledge. As chairman of the school, and the school being one of the access points, what if he's part of some faction meant to guard and control The Gap, and Sejuro is a 3rd party undermining him for an unknown reason?

• The Gap and the Magatama pieces require sexual acts to locate and to activate, respectively - I know that the erotica's a selling point in a meta sense, but in-story I don't recall us getting an explanation/justification for why sexual acts are required as the ritual, insofar as one that makes sense within the setting.

If my knowledge of Pornwha and H Doujins are anything to go by, this is likely tied to Yin & Yang Energy and Feng Shui. Women are said to have Yin Energy and men have Yang, and in these kinds of stories there's always some kind of spiritual harmony bullshit to justify the horny. You'd be surprised at how many of these plots involve unlocking incredible spiritual power and/or dispelling negative energies through sex. It's why the magatama look like they do and change back and forth between black & white.

 

[Septazia]

I think the part that makes this difficult to are is that we have all questions and really no answers.

And it's been 5 volumes of writing, it feels like we have all questions, no answers, and every time they start to get somewhere, it's either a half-dead end or something tragic happens.

• They found the scroll for bringing back lost beings in Shirai's family home, but it was mostly destroyed; they are starting to collect the Magatama pieces, but they're being directly interfered with by Senjuro, and apparently Hebizono - the latter of which acts like she cares about Hinata, but is a complete enigma and also is not above antagonizing him and Shirai & Momoka, and getting in their way of trying to find his sister.
• We don't know Shirai's family history and purpose beyond "guarding the Gap", we don't actually know where Hinata's sister has gone, or why Momoka could sorta remember her back in chapter 4, but only in the sense that the memory was nonsensical without someone else being there that she couldn't recall.
• The Gap and the Magatama pieces require sexual acts to locate and to activate, respectively - I know that the erotica's a selling point in a meta sense, but in-story I don't recall us getting an explanation/justification for why sexual acts are required as the ritual, insofar as one that makes sense within the setting.
• Hebizono (to reiterate) is both sympathetic but at best a stonewalling force who seems completely unwilling to budge on anything that would move the plot forward for the MC. She's entirely an impeding force, while also giving zero answers or explanation to the MC about anything, because it's in his apparent best interest to simply forget all of this and walk away? Which if he did, would kill the plot entirely, but she's giving no ground on actually either helping, or stepping aside, and it's left the main trio floundering in trying to find a way forward.
• Sejuro, the apparent active antagonist, has what appears to be a martially-trained high school girl working at his behest, but other than the fact that he seems able to at least direct, if not outright control, the Nenokami and is intent on erasing people (thus far, only adolescent girls, from what we know) from existence, and we're not supposed to believe that it's "important enough work" that his assistant has appeared before one of the two main female lead characters and requested that she allow herself to also be 'consumed'.

There's just... fragments of story and backdrop and the merest clues about how to proceed, but these are just three high school kids fighting otherworldly forces with no special abilities, and a nefarious, entirely enigmatic antagonistic adult figure who has powers, but reveals absolutely nothing about why any of this is happening in the first place, and a third rogue force in Hebizono who also possesses powers and also actively prevents the MC from proceeding with his desired goal. And his goal is just to get his sister back - but now another girl is gone, and he blames himself, and he's really no closer to any answers than he was back in chapter 2.
Yes, clues have been found, but he's just stuck collecting pieces of a key and then he has to find the Boundary Castle, and the rest of that Scroll was destroyed from there - and that was before they were being actively hunted.

Maybe it'll all start coming together now that the assistant has contacted Shirai. Without knowing where we ostensibly sit in terms of the overall story, though, I feel like this could just get dragged on forever, the way things are going.

--

EDIT - and of course, how / why Hinata, the MC, is seemingly the only one not affected by the nenokami's erasure of the existence/memory of anyone/thing consumed by them.

Sejuro doesn't confirm whether or not he remembers; it could be argued he knows someone disappeared, but not who they were, and infers that whatever goal he's working toward has progressed because of Hinata's words & behavior at the end of the previous chapter. He said "three left", but again - there might be some sort of system/check method, and not that he's also aware.

If he does remember, then it better not come out that Hinata's related to him in some fashion - "antagonistic family member/organization/force" just feels like a shitty trope when Hinata's being kept fully in the dark, and would really need something compelling to sell it, in my mind.
But...I feel like with Shirai's family being tied to the Unsatisfied Gap, means that Hinata is also in some familial fashion which explains why he retains his memory of those Erased.

So. Yeah.

Thanks for keeping track of all these crumbs.
Even if it makes me wish it was less convoluted, or if it can start the "explaining shit" part of the story already, it also seems overly bleak now, so I hope we reached the lowest point and start going back up.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Thanks for keeping track of all these crumbs.
Even if it makes me wish it was less convoluted, or if it can start the "explaining shit" part of the story already, it also seems overly bleak now, so I hope we reached the lowest point and start going back up.

it's not comprehensive, but it's the ones that seemed most...I guess "important" or "pressing" based on where the plot is at present. But, cheers.

If my knowledge of Pornwha and H Doujins are anything to go by, this is likely tied to Yin & Yang Energy and Feng Shui. Women are said to have Yin Energy and men have Yang, and in these kinds of stories there's always some kind of spiritual harmony bullshit to justify the horny. You'd be surprised at how many of these plots involve unlocking incredible spiritual power and/or dispelling negative energies through sex. It's why the magatama look like they do and change back and forth between black & white.

That's effectively where my brain went. But, I'm also hoping there's more substance to it than that.
Yes, the Magatama look like they do, and that (unfortunately) points very much in the Yin & Yang direction being the whole of the rationale behind the sex being so central to the plot.
Just keep thinking that there's gotta be some kind of unmined potential in making ecchi works that are supposed to be taken halfway seriously.
But I also think that part of the recurring issue of this series for me is that, beyond the "teens have sex to dimension-hop", is the gestures at previous post's content

And so it's a bit difficult to really analyze the sex aspects because of all the gigantic question marks surrounding the other big facets of the series.

 

[SicklyToast]

Tell us why author right now do it why does she need to be killed
100 chapters later still no answer probably