Kanojo to Kare no Kankei ~Heibon na Hayakawa-san to Heibon na Miura-kun no Hibon na Kankei~ - Vol. 4 Ch. 18 - The Last Day

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gghghhhhhrrr.. whyyy brooo ?? :clap: This chapter seriously got me so frustrated, azzzz. The fuck is wrong with these two? :facepalm:

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Unbelievably stupid.

I know the internet is full of hyperbole but this might actually be a strong contender for the worst nosedive in quality in a romance manga.

How do you set up such a communication disaster willingly? What they have to convey isn't even complicated, but it's like the author tourned both of them into aliens who don't understand human interactions. Or that some sort of witch put out a curse on them that causes their conversation to go the worst possible way imaginable.

It gets worse each page, it's kind of fascinating really.

I certainly can't blame the translation team for taking this long. I would have a very hard time finding the motivation to work on this if that were me?

It seems that there are two more chapters sor far, can anyone just spoil if this shitshow is still going?
 
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Unbelievebly stupid.

I know the internet is full of hyperbole but this might actually be a strong contender for the worst nosedive in quality in a romance manga.

How do you set up such a communication disaster willingly? What they have to convey isn't even complicated, but it's like the author tourned both of them into aliens who don't understand human interactions.

It gets worse each page, it's kind of fascinating really.

I certainly can't blame the translation team for taking this long. I would have a very hard time finding the motivation to work on this if that were me?

It seems that there are two more chapters sor far, can anyone just spoil if this shitshow is still going?
Yeah, I mean I genuinely don't mind miscommunication in stories if it feels belivable (I mean a good quantity of relationship issues are built on miscommunication regardless), but this feels like character assassination for the both of them. The author is clearly going for something like "the closer they get the more cowardly they get about their feelings," but turning it into this huge multi-chapter melodrama is maybe the worst possible execution of that idea, given the way this relationship has been build up so calmly and methodically so far.
 
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?????? Like ?????????? How do you not just die from how ridiculous your cope is
Seriously. If you wanted to write a comedic/parody style romance that pokes fun of the miscomminication trope, you'd have no problem using this setting.
It would need to be presented differently in order to be funny of course, but the story and dialogue? Yup you can just use that, it works perfectly.

It's not just the author, how did the editor looked at the past 3 chapters and said "Yeah this is acceptable".
I would LOVE to know the japanese readers reacted to this arc.
 
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idk i think it makes sense that two people can have a misunderstanding like this. just because it's making you experience something akin to sadness doesn't mean it's bad or a failure of the writer lol. thank you for the translation and i'm looking forward to see how they will overcome this
 
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The way I see it -

She thought everything was great and they could communicate just fine, right up until she overheard half a conversation that, to her, made it sound like everything between them up to then had been a farce and simply him "putting up with her".

Suddenly, she's in her own head about every conversation, every interaction, whether any of it actually was real or honest on his part, and she overthought it so much that the normally easy communication between them faltered because she could no longer trust his words to her.

And when she pulls back, and he doesn't chase, and then he (in her eyes) blows off their last big date on Christmas, she becomes convinced that what she heard was indeed the whole of the truth of his thoughts on their relationship.

And when she asks if there's anything he wants to say, and he says there isn't...she concludes that she was correct; that all their communication was easy before, but now that real thoughts and feelings are on the table, suddenly he's closed off--because he doesn't actually love her.

And so to protect herself, she breaks it off at the end here, rather than "being the one to be rejected". Better to attack than to receive, type thing, for the semblance of control and agency.

It's not perfect, and it's not wholesome--but given how their relationship started, it makes sense. Their interactions were all somewhat surface-level, in a sense, up until now--all derived off the guise of a (fake) relationship, and never off a solid foundation of honest feelings.

They needed to have this conversation eventually, but they both ended up in their own head. and even that sort of makes sense: first relationship for them, suddenly being suspicious it was all actually fake with no authentic emotional buy-in.

I don't see it ending here for them, but they'll likely need outside help now, because I don't see him as the type to actually run after her and try to fix things. And she is clearly convinced she's got the right of it as things pertain to what their relationship was really all about.

I am excited to see what the author does to put them in the same room to talk.
 
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The way I see it -

She thought everything was great and they could communicate just fine, right up until she overheard half a conversation that, to her, made it sound like everything between them up to then had been a farce and simply him "putting up with her".

Suddenly, she's in her own head about every conversation, every interaction, whether any of it actually was real or honest on his part, and she overthought it so much that the normally easy communication between them faltered because she could no longer trust his words to her.

And when she pulls back, and he doesn't chase, and then he (in her eyes) blows off their last big date on Christmas, she becomes convinced that what she heard was indeed the whole of the truth of his thoughts on their relationship.

And when she asks if there's anything he wants to say, and he says there isn't...she concludes that she was correct; that all their communication was easy before, but now that real thoughts and feelings are on the table, suddenly he's closed off--because he doesn't actually love her.

And so to protect herself, she breaks it off at the end here, rather than "being the one to be rejected". Better to attack than to receive, type thing, for the semblance of control and agency.

It's not perfect, and it's not wholesome--but given how their relationship started, it makes sense. Their interactions were all somewhat surface-level, in a sense, up until now--all derived off the guise of a (fake) relationship, and never off a solid foundation of honest feelings.

They needed to have this conversation eventually, but they both ended up in their own head. and even that sort of makes sense: first relationship for them, suddenly being suspicious it was all actually fake with no authentic emotional buy-in.

I don't see it ending here for them, but they'll likely need outside help now, because I don't see him as the type to actually run after her and try to fix things. And she is clearly convinced she's got the right of it as things pertain to what their relationship was really all about.

I am excited to see what the author does to put them in the same room to talk.
I could agree with you if it wasn't for how this whole conflict started.

It started because she heard a conversation at the worst possible moment, and left at the worst possible moment. If a conflict could have been entirely avoided if one character heard one more sentence that would have given the lacking context, it is not a good one. It's completely manufactured and unnatural.
Had she arrived 30 seconds later there wouldn't be a problem in the first place. Circumstances like that doesn't lead to compelling drama, it's just contrived nonsense.
 
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idk i think it makes sense that two people can have a misunderstanding like this. just because it's making you experience something akin to sadness doesn't mean it's bad or a failure of the writer lol. thank you for the translation and i'm looking forward to see how they will overcome this
The guy even acknowledges in story that just until recently she was so open with him. Dude is as lost as we are on why she suddenly went mentally impaired.

I don‘t want to be mean but if anyone thinks "school kids, heh“ and tries to explain it away like that they are plain foolish and would buy sand on a beach or enjoy watching paint dry.
You can‘t have the whole story be character driven and then reduce them to unstable emotional brat when conveniently needed.
There is absolutely nothing organic going on. This whole conflict stinks artificial and takes away infinitely more than it adds. She is completely vile and unfair and the dude is just as genuine as always and won‘t engage the conflict. The worst of all worlds.

I am not invested enough to know if the author had to end this by the next Volume. I simply don‘t care anymore after what they did with this bs drama.
But this isn‘t making someone feel something akin to sadness or whatever. This is frustrating the reader to follow fhe formula even if it means ruining a character (her) in the process. I genuinely can not see how she could be redeemed in the remaining runtime. This is one of the only manga where I feel irl sorry for the poor schmuck. Him ending up with her would be the ultimate worst ending for me.
 
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idk i think it makes sense that two people can have a misunderstanding like this. just because it's making you experience something akin to sadness doesn't mean it's bad or a failure of the writer lol. thank you for the translation and i'm looking forward to see how they will overcome this
Except it doesn't. I get her being hurt because from what she heard he was badmouthing their relationship (we know that he meant something else, but she didn't) but at the same time he doesn't know that she heard so he can't have a clue.
Considering his insistence, even saying that he wants to go even further with their relationship, she would have needed only a "and why do you want to continue if you said bla bla bla to your friend?" to spark an healtier discussion. Instead she run away

They both are at fault for different reasons...but she really is a chicken, borderline nonsense
 
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tbh I think bashing on kaho for being a little emotionally immature in this chapter like it came out of nowhere completely forgets how this whole relationship started—which is with her, a girl who never was in a relationship and has no basis for one really, who decided to get into one for the hell of it

like she's set up from the start to be naive, so of course once she learns more about the relationship and gets into it she's hurt much more dramatically

though I think the comments about the coincidental timing of hearing the worst thing possible is silly yeah, a part of me wishes it were set up slightly differently but ultimately like the top comment says we know how this is going to end well... probably lol

as always, thank you translators for your work!
 

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