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Kimi no Love o Misetekure! - Ch. 31
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These are my thoughts exactly.
Before the whole situation went sideways I felt like the direction Karasuma's infatuation with Fushimi were going was realizing his feelings weren't really love and that there wasnt that spark between them that would actually bloom into actual love. While with Shijou it would grow into love. And not in somebig dramatic way just showing how feelings aren't what you think they are and that love takes many forms.
Fushimi just rubs me the wrong way too. It feels so one sided whenever she's there. She obviously doesn't have real romantic feelings for Karasuma and never has. She might be trying because of their relationship but sometimes it really comes off like she's only doing it to be close to Shijou. On top of that there are signs that Shijou could feel something for Fushimi but that's through what seems like a concentrated effort to try. TBF you could mayba kinda say that goes for Karasuma too but she had feelings for him that grew naturally before they all got together so it feels less like she's trying to act like she likes him and more like trying to find out how to act with someone in a relationship.
Fushimi really just rubs me the wrong way. She's so one sided in her feelings that she comes off as over bearing and selfish. It really doesn't help her main character trait is being obsessed with Shijou. It's actually hard to really say anything about her and even harder to find anything nice or worthwhile. It seems like she barely pays Karasuma any attention without prompting and is treating the whole thing as just a way to get what she wants from Shijou. I really hope something happens with her because she's been nothing but a plot device that drags down the series so far.
She really reminds me of a girl from senko-san who's only real traits was being obsessed with the mc as well. It was even for kinda shalow reasons as well which Fushimi gives the same vibes of.
I really really hope it goes in the direction of figuring out what love is and what is and isn't love and how it works/feels too because I thought it was going that way from the start and now it feels like we're really meandering and the three way relationship just doesnt feel like its working at all.
Edit: Wrote all this before reading ch 32 and after reading it Fushimi is just the worst part of this series. Her one sided hero worship feels surface level and she never actually gives anything to the other two is only receiving from them. She's not only a leech she's uninteresting and boring.
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There's a lot of people who have put their thoughts and feelings out on this, and a lot of them are valid, but I think there's just a lot of hate and negativity flowing through things as well that I don't quite understand. And part of this is that I feel is an issue with the series theme compared to other things. This series is romance, but it has a very heavy focus on comedy as well that can't easily be ignored, and so while it's tackling a lot of serious issues it's also doing that with a heavy pinning of comedy behind it and jokes about Shijou thinking this is 'just like her manga's' while literally being in a manga.
And honestly? I think there's a lot of hate that things are a bit of a mess right now, but I'm surprised people thought that this would be anything but a mess at this stage. Part of it I do think is the author trying to juggle a few too many plot threads at the same time so the pacing is a bit off, but some of this also just feels like it's the kind of messy romance you get when you're brand new to this, not the best at being social, and are stumbling your way through this.
Yes, the amount of love each person feels for the other is lopsided at the moment, and hell even in a poly relationship sometimes that happens too. They didn't declare they were all going to date each other because they were deeply and perfectly in love at that moment, they just knew that at that point in time, they would be a lot less happy if they weren't together, or at least didn't try to make this work. This wasn't a big planned out thing. It was a messy declaration that they wanted to try their best to be together.
And boy it is a mess! The issues people brought up are still real, and whether it's a mix of 'writing could be better' which is a valid critique, or just characters not acting the best, it still feels interesting to me because while there's goofy fun on one end, there's just people trying to do their best and failing in their own awkward ways too.
The fact that they're failing doesn't make it a bad thing to me.
Karasuma is great, and he's doing his best in a way that makes ya want to cheer for him. He's definitely the most mature of the other two, and the more recent chapters helps explain as well why that's true for Fushimi. He's shown that he has the drive to put in the work to get what he wants. I think at this point the biggest thing would be learning how to properly ask for more from the ones he wants to be with, cause even if the situation might have changed it doesn't seem like he doesn't want to be with Shijou or Fushimi. The fact he's the most mature and has taken on the role of helping look after Shijou in particular is something that stops him from realizing that he should, or perhaps even how he should ask for more attention. He's been a bit passive about that, and I hope that they're able to start developing that now that Fushimi has had her relationship with Shijou developed a bit more.
Speaking of Fushimi, we've always kinda gotten hints that she puts on masks and is a lot more awkward than she actually is, but the most recent chapters especially have helped us see that she is about as socially awkward as Shijou likely is, but is a lot better at trying to hide it. The way she acts awkward and a bit obsessive feels to me just as much her being social awkward and just being extra about it. Funny enough I know people just like her, and they are kind of awkward to be around with their energy, but it's something you learn to work on, and she's still in the stage of gettng to learn that.
Plus yeah, the reason for her initial love for Shijou is a bit surface level, but people also seem to forget that the reason Karasuma gave for wanting to go out with Fushimi is he liked how happy she looked discussing manga or eating the food he made. A lot of love starts as surface level unless you already know the person well and then develop feelings (friends to lovers style, like how Shijou and Karasuma basically went). She's made it clear that she definitely really loves Shijou a ton and is now in the stage of getting to learn about her more, how to properly handle her feelings on it etc. But it's not like she isn't trying at all to make the relationship with Karasuma work. The two are just a lot more subdued about it and that seems to be the way that their relationship in specific works.
It might just be me and my experience with actual real life poly relationships, but again, it's not always a 'everyone is trying to aim for the exact same thing in a relationship'. It's hard because it's a lot of communication and work, people end up wanting different things because people have different desires, wants. I don't think Karasuma would ever be as wildly in love with Karasuma as she acts with Shijou, but they don't seem unhappy either. It's definitely a bit more on the friendly subdued side at the moment but, they are still all trying to figure this relationship stuff out.
And perhaps if it was just Fushimi and Karasuma, it would be a slow burn type event where they got to just be domestic and figure that out, but then we got our gremlin Shijou who...really in all honesty her segment is the easiest to write about. She's a love manga author who never experienced love and is trying to figure out how tf she got into this situation that is making her so happy. She's a massive mess and is honestly similar to Fushimi in how they both seem to have obsessive energies, but just directed in different ways and with varying levels of confidence.
But she now has people who are helping to drag her too into being in a space where she gets to experience more than just putting all her attention into manga. She's happy to explore it, and she's trying her best to put in the effort! Her biggest issue at the moment is really just that she is so utterly lacking in experience for uh, well, basically everything not related to manga, which is why it's also fun to watch her grow and develop. Does not make her the best at being good at romance, but hell I'm here for the entertainment not the perfect couple(s) romance.
I've said a lot of words and probably a lot of gibberish, but it all comes down to in the end these characters being imperfect, the author being imperfect, the romance being imperfect, but everyone still trying their best to put in the work and make something good out of it. Even with the flaws, I feel it helps make this series what it is, and I'm going to keep sticking with it through any rough patches it has. I hope that if this is a rough patch for others, they stick with it as well and learn to love it for the mess it can sometimes be instead of needing everything to be just, well done and always perfectly executed.
It's simply a lot of fun to read, and I hope that everyone else is able to have fun reading it too :>
And honestly? I think there's a lot of hate that things are a bit of a mess right now, but I'm surprised people thought that this would be anything but a mess at this stage. Part of it I do think is the author trying to juggle a few too many plot threads at the same time so the pacing is a bit off, but some of this also just feels like it's the kind of messy romance you get when you're brand new to this, not the best at being social, and are stumbling your way through this.
Yes, the amount of love each person feels for the other is lopsided at the moment, and hell even in a poly relationship sometimes that happens too. They didn't declare they were all going to date each other because they were deeply and perfectly in love at that moment, they just knew that at that point in time, they would be a lot less happy if they weren't together, or at least didn't try to make this work. This wasn't a big planned out thing. It was a messy declaration that they wanted to try their best to be together.
And boy it is a mess! The issues people brought up are still real, and whether it's a mix of 'writing could be better' which is a valid critique, or just characters not acting the best, it still feels interesting to me because while there's goofy fun on one end, there's just people trying to do their best and failing in their own awkward ways too.
The fact that they're failing doesn't make it a bad thing to me.
Karasuma is great, and he's doing his best in a way that makes ya want to cheer for him. He's definitely the most mature of the other two, and the more recent chapters helps explain as well why that's true for Fushimi. He's shown that he has the drive to put in the work to get what he wants. I think at this point the biggest thing would be learning how to properly ask for more from the ones he wants to be with, cause even if the situation might have changed it doesn't seem like he doesn't want to be with Shijou or Fushimi. The fact he's the most mature and has taken on the role of helping look after Shijou in particular is something that stops him from realizing that he should, or perhaps even how he should ask for more attention. He's been a bit passive about that, and I hope that they're able to start developing that now that Fushimi has had her relationship with Shijou developed a bit more.
Speaking of Fushimi, we've always kinda gotten hints that she puts on masks and is a lot more awkward than she actually is, but the most recent chapters especially have helped us see that she is about as socially awkward as Shijou likely is, but is a lot better at trying to hide it. The way she acts awkward and a bit obsessive feels to me just as much her being social awkward and just being extra about it. Funny enough I know people just like her, and they are kind of awkward to be around with their energy, but it's something you learn to work on, and she's still in the stage of gettng to learn that.
Plus yeah, the reason for her initial love for Shijou is a bit surface level, but people also seem to forget that the reason Karasuma gave for wanting to go out with Fushimi is he liked how happy she looked discussing manga or eating the food he made. A lot of love starts as surface level unless you already know the person well and then develop feelings (friends to lovers style, like how Shijou and Karasuma basically went). She's made it clear that she definitely really loves Shijou a ton and is now in the stage of getting to learn about her more, how to properly handle her feelings on it etc. But it's not like she isn't trying at all to make the relationship with Karasuma work. The two are just a lot more subdued about it and that seems to be the way that their relationship in specific works.
It might just be me and my experience with actual real life poly relationships, but again, it's not always a 'everyone is trying to aim for the exact same thing in a relationship'. It's hard because it's a lot of communication and work, people end up wanting different things because people have different desires, wants. I don't think Karasuma would ever be as wildly in love with Karasuma as she acts with Shijou, but they don't seem unhappy either. It's definitely a bit more on the friendly subdued side at the moment but, they are still all trying to figure this relationship stuff out.
And perhaps if it was just Fushimi and Karasuma, it would be a slow burn type event where they got to just be domestic and figure that out, but then we got our gremlin Shijou who...really in all honesty her segment is the easiest to write about. She's a love manga author who never experienced love and is trying to figure out how tf she got into this situation that is making her so happy. She's a massive mess and is honestly similar to Fushimi in how they both seem to have obsessive energies, but just directed in different ways and with varying levels of confidence.
But she now has people who are helping to drag her too into being in a space where she gets to experience more than just putting all her attention into manga. She's happy to explore it, and she's trying her best to put in the effort! Her biggest issue at the moment is really just that she is so utterly lacking in experience for uh, well, basically everything not related to manga, which is why it's also fun to watch her grow and develop. Does not make her the best at being good at romance, but hell I'm here for the entertainment not the perfect couple(s) romance.
I've said a lot of words and probably a lot of gibberish, but it all comes down to in the end these characters being imperfect, the author being imperfect, the romance being imperfect, but everyone still trying their best to put in the work and make something good out of it. Even with the flaws, I feel it helps make this series what it is, and I'm going to keep sticking with it through any rough patches it has. I hope that if this is a rough patch for others, they stick with it as well and learn to love it for the mess it can sometimes be instead of needing everything to be just, well done and always perfectly executed.
It's simply a lot of fun to read, and I hope that everyone else is able to have fun reading it too :>
