How long is this gif? I've been watching it for hours.I like this manga but waiting to find out who the mastermind is really feels like this gif
Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover - Ch. 45 - Promise
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So next chapter is the end of the flashback, huh? We still don't know much about this mastermind, but I think we can exclude a few people.
The mastermind was surprised to learn that Yotsuha was using a watch so it's definitely not "time travel shenanigans" alternate Yotsuha.
I don't think it's bullied kid either though, the chapter where he told Uichi how to hang himself he wasn't using the clover account. Maybe it's that he wanted to reveal himself right at the end for some sadistic desire, but that would be pretty dumb, he's supposed to be a genius manipulator, no? That'd be out of character.
I doubt it's Yotsuha's brother, the requirement for being the mastermind is being involved in Uichi's life since 5th grade so the timing doesn't add up. Plus he doesn't really seem that interested in this whole situation, he's pretty apathetic.
Other than that we don't have many remaining suspects, the main one is probably Yotsuha's hacker friend.
We do know that the motive of the mastermind is that apparently they believe Uichi "killed ____" when they were in elementary school but I don't think we have enough insight on anyone's backstory to figure out who a grade schooler could have killed, even if indirectly.
The mastermind was surprised to learn that Yotsuha was using a watch so it's definitely not "time travel shenanigans" alternate Yotsuha.
I don't think it's bullied kid either though, the chapter where he told Uichi how to hang himself he wasn't using the clover account. Maybe it's that he wanted to reveal himself right at the end for some sadistic desire, but that would be pretty dumb, he's supposed to be a genius manipulator, no? That'd be out of character.
I doubt it's Yotsuha's brother, the requirement for being the mastermind is being involved in Uichi's life since 5th grade so the timing doesn't add up. Plus he doesn't really seem that interested in this whole situation, he's pretty apathetic.
Other than that we don't have many remaining suspects, the main one is probably Yotsuha's hacker friend.
We do know that the motive of the mastermind is that apparently they believe Uichi "killed ____" when they were in elementary school but I don't think we have enough insight on anyone's backstory to figure out who a grade schooler could have killed, even if indirectly.
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Been suspicious of the mech girl since the moment she was introduced. Seeing more people suspect her is a delight.
We don't really know anything about him as a character yet, right? We just know he was the bullied kid Uichi helped, and that he in turn gave Uichi an unhelpful nudge.
That unhelpful nudge is better received if it comes from an acquaintance rather than a random stranger. So, sending it as Clover probably wouldn't get the right result.
Still, genius manipulator kind of implies an older character rather than a middle school student.
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I think Reiji (note that the Kanji for his name means "Zero", with Yotsuha being "four-leaf clover" and Mitsuha being "three-leaf clover". Hmmm...) is another red herring. Look at his face when he gave Uichi the advice on how to kill himself; that wasn't the face of someone who knew the target of his revenge was finally dead. He was dead-eyed and if anything almost somber.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was another pawn of Clover, and the advice he gave Uichi to kill himself was intended as a genuine gift or act of mercy.
If anything, I think that suicide that was on the news in the last chapter has something to do with this. On its own it seems to imply Yotsuha's mother was a serial killer who pushed her adopted children until they killed themselves. But given the author's apparent propensity for foreshadowing and Clover's noticeable insistence on making Uichi kill himself rather than just getting him killed, I can't help but feel that it's relevant.
And that's leaving out the fact that they might be a time traveler too...
I wouldn't be surprised if he was another pawn of Clover, and the advice he gave Uichi to kill himself was intended as a genuine gift or act of mercy.
If anything, I think that suicide that was on the news in the last chapter has something to do with this. On its own it seems to imply Yotsuha's mother was a serial killer who pushed her adopted children until they killed themselves. But given the author's apparent propensity for foreshadowing and Clover's noticeable insistence on making Uichi kill himself rather than just getting him killed, I can't help but feel that it's relevant.
And that's leaving out the fact that they might be a time traveler too...
Remember that this is a revenge story, for someone to try and kill uichi as a revenge you need either:
- something uichi to be blamed as a kid
- something uichi to be blamed as a teen or adult + a time traveler
The first option fits hacker girl (jealousy) except for three things, first she was the one who gave yotsuha the info about the sister talking to clover, also yotsuha went away on her own, there's no reason to be jealous of uichi if he's not by her side, and third, she has no reason to call herself clover, as a bonus... If she was jealous and psychopathic about it, she wouldn't have used yae sin he would technically be another contender for yotsuha.
Now the time traveler theory makes much more sense since yotsuha either stays with uichi or dies trying to save him, that's actually revenge worthy, and now the suspects can be many, including hacker girl again but older, the brother, or a new player since in the case ofnyotsuha dying, any of them could've found the original clover and took it as their symbol
- something uichi to be blamed as a kid
- something uichi to be blamed as a teen or adult + a time traveler
The first option fits hacker girl (jealousy) except for three things, first she was the one who gave yotsuha the info about the sister talking to clover, also yotsuha went away on her own, there's no reason to be jealous of uichi if he's not by her side, and third, she has no reason to call herself clover, as a bonus... If she was jealous and psychopathic about it, she wouldn't have used yae sin he would technically be another contender for yotsuha.
Now the time traveler theory makes much more sense since yotsuha either stays with uichi or dies trying to save him, that's actually revenge worthy, and now the suspects can be many, including hacker girl again but older, the brother, or a new player since in the case ofnyotsuha dying, any of them could've found the original clover and took it as their symbol
Brother is such enigma. He seems like a chill guy but there's this feeling of uneasiness about him considering his mom. I didn't expect him to be the one who Yotsuha promised to avoid murder. On the one hand he doesn't want Yotsuha to kill but on the other he was just letting his mom torment kids for who knows how long. And we don't have enough background on that one bullied boy and hacker friend either. It's still hard to tell who mastermind is could be.
Yotsuha is really walking a tight rope above self-sacrifice. She's willing to massacre a bunch of people and risk her own health just for her childhood crush. I'm really scared for her wellbeing towards the end of story.
Yotsuha is really walking a tight rope above self-sacrifice. She's willing to massacre a bunch of people and risk her own health just for her childhood crush. I'm really scared for her wellbeing towards the end of story.
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I really really hope not
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i still want the father dead he literally pmo
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Man, I love Yotsuha's unhinged determination
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its gonna end in a tragedy with her not taking the surgery isn't it...
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Someone on Discord noticed that the author uses numbers for some character names, I'll put it on the last page of the next chapter
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Her brother is cool. We need his backstory with the mother now.
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Assuming Uichi is actually the target of revenge
I’ve been thinking that for a bit now
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I've been talking about this on discord today. Maybe clover wants yotsuha to suffer, and the best way for it is to make uichi suffer/kill himself
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I 'm fairly sure I have it figured out. I haven't read ahead, but the pieces fit together too well, so please don't read if you don't want to risk reading what's very likely a series of big spoilers. (Also, minor spoilage for Higurashi.)
Yotsuha does push herself too far and dies in one timeline… that she doesn't know about, because she didn't restart it. Notice how easily her older brother believes the premise of time travel? And how quickly he points out not to kill anyone for Uichi's sake, because Uichi would hate it?
He's speaking from experience. He blamed Uichi for her death, so he rewound (or whatever mechanism he used) back to farther than when she put the clover in the watch (chapter 41). He probably also caused their mother's death, but ain't no one gonna blame him for that. (He may have felt guilty because he's the one who went back in time to push their mother to go rescue Yotsuha.)
It might be a family ability, from their mother? Her reactions are often incomprehensible (e.g. how she treats Yotsuha, how she hears someone killed himself then says she guesses she doesn't need him anymore in chapter 40) — unless she's been trying to fix multiple time loops and her sanity broke under the strain.
I used to think this was straight-up "manic pixie dream girl tries to fix Higurashi"… but now I would bet the author first saw The Butterfly Effect and loved the idea of a family ability that breaks its users' sanity the more they use it (because accumulated trauma adds up fast).
I just hope her brother realized she's fighting him and is standing back to give her a chance to fix things, rather than that he's fighting her right up to the end like in Higurashi. But regardless, I get the feeling he loves her deeply… which is what twisted him far enough to do this, and why all his emotions and reactions to her are strangely blunted.
He's speaking from experience. He blamed Uichi for her death, so he rewound (or whatever mechanism he used) back to farther than when she put the clover in the watch (chapter 41). He probably also caused their mother's death, but ain't no one gonna blame him for that. (He may have felt guilty because he's the one who went back in time to push their mother to go rescue Yotsuha.)
It might be a family ability, from their mother? Her reactions are often incomprehensible (e.g. how she treats Yotsuha, how she hears someone killed himself then says she guesses she doesn't need him anymore in chapter 40) — unless she's been trying to fix multiple time loops and her sanity broke under the strain.
I used to think this was straight-up "manic pixie dream girl tries to fix Higurashi"… but now I would bet the author first saw The Butterfly Effect and loved the idea of a family ability that breaks its users' sanity the more they use it (because accumulated trauma adds up fast).
I just hope her brother realized she's fighting him and is standing back to give her a chance to fix things, rather than that he's fighting her right up to the end like in Higurashi. But regardless, I get the feeling he loves her deeply… which is what twisted him far enough to do this, and why all his emotions and reactions to her are strangely blunted.
