Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover - Ch. 52 - Just a bit

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You know, I dont even care if Miss Popular Or Else is or isn't the mastermind... she's true scum to the core. Seeing how genuinely easy it is for people to like Uichi... years of literal torture have been for absolutely nothing but her poor widdle damaged ego.

also putting my money on her not understanding what actual attraction is, and this is going to have some kind of 'omg... my chest hurt bc it was love....' bs moment. I don't often wish pure ill on characters but she has def earned some brutal karma.
 
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All these people were happy to either stay silent during the bullying or even join in a little, none of them reached out to help him, if I were Uichi I would let them glaze for now as it's just easier but after we graduate none of them would ever see me again (except for Yotsuha of course).

As for who clover is I'm starting to agree with the guy from a bunch of chapters ago who responded to my theory of who he was by saying that he may not have been introduced yet and as unsatisfying as that would be it's the only thing that kind of makes sense with all the information we now have on the side characters. I do think he is probably in the same class or a class that's nearby but they haven't actually been introduced yet.
 
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Starting to think her techy friend is behind clover. Maybe she feels jealous of Uichi. Thanks for the chapter!!!
 
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She is using the association to ruin his life even without being the mastermind so what does this matter?
You should read the comment that they responded to. The original commenter thinks that it's Rikka who wants to destroy Yotsuha's ability to time travel when it's clearly Clover who's monologuing starting from page 17 and there's no indication whatsoever that Rikka is even aware that Yotsuha can time travel.
 
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Plot twist: Clover is not the guy Uichi saved, but a another kid who hate him from when they where childs
 
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So I am confused is the final monologue from Clover’s perspective or is it Rikka or is it confirmed that Rikka is actually behind Clover (though at this point I think Clover is a group effort and Rikka ain’t the only one behind it)?
 
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So I am confused is the final monologue from Clover’s perspective or is it Rikka or is it confirmed that Rikka is actually behind Clover (though at this point I think Clover is a group effort and Rikka ain’t the only one behind it)?
The final monologue of the chapter is from Clover yes, and it confirms that Rikka is not them, as they didn't have the time to properly contact her and include her in a scheme.

She did all this by herself
 
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So. My guess is that it’s someone older. Because remember, they have been using clever wording and psychology on MC’s big sister from a long time ago (like, was it 6 years ago or something? If they were same age as MC, they would have started at like what, 10yo at best? Way too young.)

You could argue that someone with time travel could do that even if physically young. BUT! If they could time travel, they probably would have given even more problems to Yotsuha and MC, and could probably just turn back and prevent Yotsuha from doing anything.
From the way they talk about her, I would also guess they know Yotsuha, and probably even before she transferred back…

I have also noted a couple of details that have only been very briefly mentioned, and that, to me, sounds a lot like a bunch “Chekov’s gun”.

So.
My own guess would be that Clover is Yotsuha’s big brother. There’s a very brief “blink and you’ll miss it” mention that his father (or at least step father, I don’t remember if it was even clear) died just before Yotsuha’s mother took her in. And MC’s life started to turn to hell after that. I wouldn’t be surprised if MC was on the scene, like the father died in a car crash after swerving to not run MC over? Or something like that? We know their mother was very extreme, and brother might also secretly be…

Also, while Clover seems to be very willing to destroy the lives of everyone related to MC, they specifically seem to ONLY want to destroy Yotsuha’s watch, and doesn’t seem to try to directly stop her. That would explain a bit her being seemingly immune to Clover’s direct attacks.

The time travel power also become easier to guess for the brother, as he saw Yotsuha’s sudden weird decisions and demands first hand, and she probably made a couple of very specific requests to him that would only make sense in hindsight.

I am still not 100% satisfied with this, but… with this chapter I really started to feel like it was now something I had enough confidence in to share. XD
 
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I’m 99% sure it’s jealousy from all the things thus far, lots of friends, good at sports, decent family life, smart. Like if it’s not jealousy then it doesn’t make sense unless uchia raped someone

I mean, you ain't wrong but we already got the jealous incel who thought he was the main character, so, that would be a little repetitive...
 
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So. My guess is that it’s someone older. Because remember, they have been using clever wording and psychology on MC’s big sister from a long time ago (like, was it 6 years ago or something? If they were same age as MC, they would have started at like what, 10yo at best? Way too young.)

You could argue that someone with time travel could do that even if physically young. BUT! If they could time travel, they probably would have given even more problems to Yotsuha and MC, and could probably just turn back and prevent Yotsuha from doing anything.
From the way they talk about her, I would also guess they know Yotsuha, and probably even before she transferred back…

I have also noted a couple of details that have only been very briefly mentioned, and that, to me, sounds a lot like a bunch “Chekov’s gun”.

So.
My own guess would be that Clover is Yotsuha’s big brother. There’s a very brief “blink and you’ll miss it” mention that his father (or at least step father, I don’t remember if it was even clear) died just before Yotsuha’s mother took her in. And MC’s life started to turn to hell after that. I wouldn’t be surprised if MC was on the scene, like the father died in a car crash after swerving to not run MC over? Or something like that? We know their mother was very extreme, and brother might also secretly be…

Also, while Clover seems to be very willing to destroy the lives of everyone related to MC, they specifically seem to ONLY want to destroy Yotsuha’s watch, and doesn’t seem to try to directly stop her. That would explain a bit her being seemingly immune to Clover’s direct attacks.

The time travel power also become easier to guess for the brother, as he saw Yotsuha’s sudden weird decisions and demands first hand, and she probably made a couple of very specific requests to him that would only make sense in hindsight.

I am still not 100% satisfied with this, but… with this chapter I really started to feel like it was now something I had enough confidence in to share. XD

Damn, son ! That "crash theory" of yours is actually quite interesting ! Good job !!
 
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So. My guess is that it’s someone older. Because remember, they have been using clever wording and psychology on MC’s big sister from a long time ago (like, was it 6 years ago or something? If they were same age as MC, they would have started at like what, 10yo at best? Way too young.)

You could argue that someone with time travel could do that even if physically young. BUT! If they could time travel, they probably would have given even more problems to Yotsuha and MC, and could probably just turn back and prevent Yotsuha from doing anything.
From the way they talk about her, I would also guess they know Yotsuha, and probably even before she transferred back…

I have also noted a couple of details that have only been very briefly mentioned, and that, to me, sounds a lot like a bunch “Chekov’s gun”.

So.
My own guess would be that Clover is Yotsuha’s big brother. There’s a very brief “blink and you’ll miss it” mention that his father (or at least step father, I don’t remember if it was even clear) died just before Yotsuha’s mother took her in. And MC’s life started to turn to hell after that. I wouldn’t be surprised if MC was on the scene, like the father died in a car crash after swerving to not run MC over? Or something like that? We know their mother was very extreme, and brother might also secretly be…

Also, while Clover seems to be very willing to destroy the lives of everyone related to MC, they specifically seem to ONLY want to destroy Yotsuha’s watch, and doesn’t seem to try to directly stop her. That would explain a bit her being seemingly immune to Clover’s direct attacks.

The time travel power also become easier to guess for the brother, as he saw Yotsuha’s sudden weird decisions and demands first hand, and she probably made a couple of very specific requests to him that would only make sense in hindsight.

I am still not 100% satisfied with this, but… with this chapter I really started to feel like it was now something I had enough confidence in to share. XD
Sorry for my bad english. I do not think so because Clever only now have a clearly understanding about how working Yotsuha's ability with time travel. BUT brother already know about this because she's about her ability and what she want. Chapter 45 p4 she told him about her time travel ability and how she will use it and he's agreed with it. But Clever starting to understand about danger from Yotsuha and starting guessing how she can use time travel only from Chapter 36. Brother already know about Yotsuha's wish and ability, he can do not know how it's work but know more than Clever.
 
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Uchi exists , other characters in manga , " i hate him , he have to suffer"
 
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Oh god, please don't go into a rabbit hole of showing how amazing Uichi is so that everyone can self insert and enjoy the redemption... I just want to know why.

My guess - Uichi from the future is trying to kill himself to save Youtsuha from something.

Just don't make it the brother
 
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Sorry for my bad english. I do not think so because Clever only now have a clearly understanding about how working Yotsuha's ability with time travel. BUT brother already know about this because she's about her ability and what she want. Chapter 45 p4 she told him about her time travel ability and how she will use it and he's agreed with it. But Clever starting to understand about danger from Yotsuha and starting guessing how she can use time travel only from Chapter 36. Brother already know about Yotsuha's wish and ability, he can do not know how it's work but know more than Clever.
Oh right, I forgot that! Hum…

Ok, looking at it again, She told him she could rewind time, nothing more, he didn’t know how. So that could still work…
but also, I had forgotten how supportive he was to her… unless he believed that she would not be able to win against him, even with time travel… but that does makes it very unlikely. Damn. And I was so certain of my theory. XD

… Now I’m back to multiple very weak possibilities… Brother (still unable to completely drop it), hacker girl (… I did say weak), and finally, the cheapest one, someone still unrevealed.
 
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