Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover - Vol. 11 Ch. 89

[MangaDex]

 

[UhhExi]

Kinda underwhelming chapter

 

[SaveFrog]

Always kind of silly when authors want to show the character is genius and go "she's able to do the QUADRATIC FORMULA!" Sure, impressive for a little kid, but you could have her do something above middle school level. She's apparently writing full on physics papers by elementary school

 

[pikachiu24]

You can actually see some in the crowd looking nervous in the previous chapter. Though I like how some of them don’t care if she’s blackmailing people, they somehow still thinks she‘s a good person.

It’s Fu-chan flashback time, which should buy some time for the brother to help. I don’t know how strong he is but since he had in him to murder his insane mom, he should be able to put up good fight. As for Fu-chan herself, it's clear she's another victim of that insane cult mom, though she's far more powerful and damaged than the other victims. It obviously going come through her dad's cheating. From what I can gather in this chapter, he's quite conceited and those people are easily manipulated by the mom.

 

[Shrimperor]

real humble, dad.
And wow Father Complex much?

 

[razorshaleh]

Having an IQ over 130 as a kid, even her own mom was scared of Futaba because she acted like a full-grown adult. Honestly, it feels more like she just got reincarnated isekai-style

thank you for translation

 

[Knighto]

so father raised a sociopath ... neet (still wonder why he took his life if the mom didn't reveal yotsuha identity)
so for how smart she is, she's gonna blame her for her psychotic mom?? that's not that smart in the end.
at least makes more sense why would the mom sent her to a boarding school.

 

[19801980]

É possível ver algumas pessoas na multidão parecendo nervosas no capítulo anterior. Embora eu goste de como algumas delas não se importam se ela está chantageando as pessoas, de alguma forma ainda a consideram uma boa pessoa.
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É hora do flashback da Fu-chan, o que deve dar tempo para o irmão ajudar. Não sei o quão forte ele é, mas já que foi capaz de assassinar sua mãe insana, deve conseguir lutar bem. Quanto à própria Fu-chan, é evidente que ela é outra vítima daquela mãe fanática do culto, embora seja muito mais poderosa e traumatizada do que as outras vítimas. Isso obviamente se deve à traição do pai. Pelo que pude perceber neste capítulo, ele é bastante arrogante e essas pessoas são facilmente manipuladas pela mãe.

Yes

 

[19801980]

Fu chan is genius level semi ayanokoji

 

[LupusVir]

Yeah

 

[Achaius]

Amazing life lesson to teach an impressionable kid. Dad of the fucking year .

 

[Skullkrusher]

Amazing life lesson to teach an impressionable kid. Dad of the fucking year .

He has a point. People who stand out do not do well in, and in some case do not survive long, in a society that demands conformity and normality. Think of how people who choose not to use social media are treated as untrustworthy or hiding something. Think of how smart people are targeted by dumb people because the dumb have herd safety in numbers. Think of how many medications she'd be forced on to make her "normal" if her mother chose that route. He's telling her to mask up and pretend to be normal so she isn't destroyed by other people that will never understand her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masking_(behavior)

 

[Knighto]

I spoiled myself ... holy shenanigans, I would say author fumbled a ton
tons of spoiler btw...read at risk

Spoiler: remember spoiler!!

Spoiler: just in case you stilll have some doubts to spoil or not, it's all to the end

I will not go into deep detail, because it wasn't in my language

• she really needs Uichi to k!ll himself to f*ck with Yotsuha, but big bro was still faster with the police to save them
• Fu goes cult leader and gets Uichi and Yostuha family killed, burns uichi and get big bro stabbed Oshi no Ko style.
• Yotsuha finally uses the power and goes back in time to when she's a kid and jumps off the roof
• Uichi leaves a normal life as he didn't had a psychopath ruining his life (he even is friends with the 2 a-holes that tried to ruin his life), but he SOMEHOW starts to remember Yotsuha and he suddenly remembers everything (and gets Fu for advice, FFS author)
• Uichi searches for a 4leaf clover and prays to go back in time at the same time Yotsuha returns too, and does his best to calm her to have faith in life again.
• They visit Fu to prevent her dad from offing himself and we get a super DUMB and FAST defeat on Yotsuha's mom
• The b!tch can't see people despairing in jail so she was going crazy, watches herself in the mirror and that works for her.
• happily ever after for the couple.

- THERE'S NO ACTUAL PUNISHMENT TO THE GENIUS PSYCHO and that's just crap, because at least make them stay the FUCK outta her life, she has the capacity to be friggin' unhinged, I wouldn't put her on the same level of Yotsuha's mom, but she kinda close, remember she started to plan Yotsuha and Uichi's demise when she was like... what? less than 8 years old.

I wouldn't call it the worst end, someone already mentioned deadtube, there's also jujika and maria no danzzai also a big flop, so at least is a little on top of them

 

[UncStatus]

Always kind of silly when authors want to show the character is genius and go "she's able to do the QUADRATIC FORMULA!" Sure, impressive for a little kid, but you could have her do something above middle school level. She's apparently writing full on physics papers by elementary school

I think you're expecting TOO much of a 3 year old.

But damn, the burden of being too smart. Smart enough that even your own mother looks at you with something closer to fear than pride. And smart enough that you can't click with your own peers, because your interests simply don't line up with theirs. So to fit in, you hide your true self behind a well manufactured lie.

I think this a good thematic callback as lies have been a central presence throughout the story. It's gonna be interesting to see how this was the turnaround for Fuu's life finally being able to interact with people. Conversely, how this may have been the turn on her worldview. Like assuming she's the who coined Uichi as a bad influence born to make people miserable.

Thanks for the translation!

 

[Genzerum]

I spoiled myself ... holy shenanigans, I would say author fumbled a ton
tons of spoiler btw...read at risk

Spoiler: remember spoiler!!

Spoiler: just in case you stilll have some doubts to spoil or not, it's all to the end

I will not go into deep detail, because it wasn't in my language

• she really needs Uichi to k!ll himself to f*ck with Yotsuha, but big bro was still faster with the police to save them
• Fu goes cult leader and gets Uichi and Yostuha family killed, burns uichi and get big bro stabbed Oshi no Ko style.
• Yotsuha finally uses the power and goes back in time to when she's a kid and jumps off the roof
• Uichi leaves a normal life as he didn't had a psychopath ruining his life (he even is friends with the 2 a-holes that tried to ruin his life), but he SOMEHOW starts to remember Yotsuha and he suddenly remembers everything (and gets Fu for advice, FFS author)
• Uichi searches for a 4leaf clover and prays to go back in time at the same time Yotsuha returns too, and does his best to calm her to have faith in life again.
• They visit Fu to prevent her dad from offing himself and we get a super DUMB and FAST defeat on Yotsuha's mom
• The b!tch can't see people despairing in jail so she was going crazy, watches herself in the mirror and that works for her.
• happily ever after for the couple.

- THERE'S NO ACTUAL PUNISHMENT TO THE GENIUS PSYCHO and that's just crap, because at least make them stay the FUCK outta her life, she has the capacity to be friggin' unhinged, I wouldn't put her on the same level of Yotsuha's mom, but she kinda close, remember she started to plan Yotsuha and Uichi's demise when she was like... what? less than 8 years old.

I wouldn't call it the worst end, someone already mentioned deadtube, there's also jujika and maria no danzzai also a big flop, so at least is a little on top of them

HOLY SHIT. If this is real ending, it's OnK kind of dogshit finish. Jesus Christ, did Japanese authors really learned nothing from mistakes of Akasaka? I swear, it should be studied, how manga writers cannot create a story with at least decent ending.
I wonder how many of this is because editor/publishing company pushed author to make story longer and longer.
This is madness, actually lost all interest in this manga this exact moment.

 

[JackWasGone]

"Superior Intellect" and he still got murked by a crazy bitch. Bitch please

 

[shelliana]

I spoiled myself ... holy shenanigans, I would say author fumbled a ton
tons of spoiler btw...read at risk

Spoiler: remember spoiler!!

Spoiler: just in case you stilll have some doubts to spoil or not, it's all to the end

I will not go into deep detail, because it wasn't in my language

• she really needs Uichi to k!ll himself to f*ck with Yotsuha, but big bro was still faster with the police to save them
• Fu goes cult leader and gets Uichi and Yostuha family killed, burns uichi and get big bro stabbed Oshi no Ko style.
• Yotsuha finally uses the power and goes back in time to when she's a kid and jumps off the roof
• Uichi leaves a normal life as he didn't had a psychopath ruining his life (he even is friends with the 2 a-holes that tried to ruin his life), but he SOMEHOW starts to remember Yotsuha and he suddenly remembers everything (and gets Fu for advice, FFS author)
• Uichi searches for a 4leaf clover and prays to go back in time at the same time Yotsuha returns too, and does his best to calm her to have faith in life again.
• They visit Fu to prevent her dad from offing himself and we get a super DUMB and FAST defeat on Yotsuha's mom
• The b!tch can't see people despairing in jail so she was going crazy, watches herself in the mirror and that works for her.
• happily ever after for the couple.

- THERE'S NO ACTUAL PUNISHMENT TO THE GENIUS PSYCHO and that's just crap, because at least make them stay the FUCK outta her life, she has the capacity to be friggin' unhinged, I wouldn't put her on the same level of Yotsuha's mom, but she kinda close, remember she started to plan Yotsuha and Uichi's demise when she was like... what? less than 8 years old.

I wouldn't call it the worst end, someone already mentioned deadtube, there's also jujika and maria no danzzai also a big flop, so at least is a little on top of them

I'm not gonna deny that this manga is stupid, that was kind of obvious from volume 1, and the ending is also pretty rushed, but there's a thing I take issue with.

Spoiler

The reason why Fuu went crazy is not really just because her dad killed himself. It's because in his suicide note he said that the only person he ever loved was Kazuha because she truly accepted him (yeah this is still stupid as fuck), and when he was around his daughter he felt something close to that feeling, so he pretended in his mind that she was Kazuha and was basically using her as a substitute for her. Fuu-chan was about 12-13, not 8, and getting this kind of pseudo-incestuous "I never really loved you for you yourself" confession from her dead father basically broke her brain, and she devoted herself to revenge so that she didn't have to think about it more than "if Yotsuha was never born this wouldn't have happened". I'm not gonna say it's amazing writing, but this sort of thing would make anyone go crazy. She's not inherently evil on her own.

The whole idea here is that people are not inherently evil (besides Kazuha, but maybe if ANYONE AT ALL had pushed back against her as a child she could be different). Uichi had memories of a timeline where Fuu, Yae, and Rei had trauma and pressure on them and were vindictive and spiteful bullies, but he also had memories of a timeline where that trauma and pressure were gone and they were all nice people.

This is why he was willing to forgive Fuu, who, in the timeline he went back to, had not done anything yet. There's no real reason to punish a kid for something they could potentially do if they haven't actually done it yet, and you're trying to stop them from doing it anyway. Also like, Uichi and Yotsuha liked her. They were friends for years and when they heard her story they felt bad for her. The way they saw it, she was a victim of the actions of adults just like Yotsuha was and she could be saved and become real friends with them.

In the end because a lot of people jump straight to vengeance and punishment and are going to be mad about what happens, but the thing is once Uichi and Yotsuha do the time leap, evil mastermind Fuu no longer exists. She's like the version of a character that only exists in a visual novel's bad end. The punishment for her and all of her henchmen is non-existence while Uichi and Yotsuha get to live in a world where they're happy and surrounded by better people.

Spoiler

Even if you take every timeline as a parallel universe, you can easily imagine that in those other universes Fuu finds out she doesn't feel any better after her revenge is carried out, and now she's just a lonely, hollow murderer whose only friend was the fake friend she drove to suicide, and so she'll probably follow in her friend's footsteps.

 

[Cool.Ice]

Never try to pretend something you aren't.
Never try to do something because most people love to do.
Living a pretend life, it will pile up on your throat, making it feel like you lost control of your life or even yourself.
Until you want someone to see you for the real you, but no one knows whom you actually are.
So you will just start to hate yourself, for being someone no one loves and instead others loving the fake you.

 

[Knighto]

I'm not gonna deny that this manga is stupid, that was kind of obvious from volume 1, and the ending is also pretty rushed, but there's a thing I take issue with.

Spoiler

The reason why Fuu went crazy is not really just because her dad killed himself. It's because in his suicide note he said that the only person he ever loved was Kazuha because she truly accepted him (yeah this is still stupid as fuck), and when he was around his daughter he felt something close to that feeling, so he pretended in his mind that she was Kazuha and was basically using her as a substitute for her. Fuu-chan was about 12-13, not 8, and getting this kind of pseudo-incestuous "I never really loved you for you yourself" confession from her dead father basically broke her brain, and she devoted herself to revenge so that she didn't have to think about it more than "if Yotsuha was never born this wouldn't have happened". I'm not gonna say it's amazing writing, but this sort of thing would make anyone go crazy. She's not inherently evil on her own.

The whole idea here is that people are not inherently evil (besides Kazuha, but maybe if ANYONE AT ALL had pushed back against her as a child she could be different). Uichi had memories of a timeline where Fuu, Yae, and Rei had trauma and pressure on them and were vindictive and spiteful bullies, but he also had memories of a timeline where that trauma and pressure were gone and they were all nice people.

This is why he was willing to forgive Fuu, who, in the timeline he went back to, had not done anything yet. There's no real reason to punish a kid for something they could potentially do if they haven't actually done it yet, and you're trying to stop them from doing it anyway. Also like, Uichi and Yotsuha liked her. They were friends for years and when they heard her story they felt bad for her. The way they saw it, she was a victim of the actions of adults just like Yotsuha was and she could be saved and become real friends with them.

In the end because a lot of people jump straight to vengeance and punishment and are going to be mad about what happens, but the thing is once Uichi and Yotsuha do the time leap, evil mastermind Fuu no longer exists. She's like the version of a character that only exists in a visual novel's bad end. The punishment for her and all of her henchmen is non-existence while Uichi and Yotsuha get to live in a world where they're happy and surrounded by better people.

Spoiler

Even if you take every timeline as a parallel universe, you can easily imagine that in those other universes Fuu finds out she doesn't feel any better after her revenge is carried out, and now she's just a lonely, hollow murderer whose only friend was the fake friend she drove to suicide, and so she'll probably follow in her friend's footsteps.

some are fair points, BUT

Spoiler

at least for me staying close to someone that always faked their relationship and pretty much blamed all their crap on her that was clearly another victim, specially since they stayed on touch and she always knew how crap her life was all around to still choose to destroy her like that is friggin' insane AAAND
about your 2nd spoiler, that's just wishful thinking about trying to make her a more sympathetic character, because we don't know if she was actually laughing at Yotsuha when she shown Uichi death.

Meanwhile we know that Yotsuha brother even if he killed his own mom, bro was genuinely broken from all her mom shit, but never took it on other people, unlike Fuu, that had an insane hit list, because she didn't let her minions alive.

and about the fair points, yeah, the dad was f*ck up too in the end, the incestous sh!t is craaazy, and I can agree with the point of inherently evil, but as I mention with Yotsuha's bro, not everyone chooses to do evil in the face of insanity, he could have easily sh!t on Yotsuha too as he took the mom insanity while she waited for the time to f*ck with Fu's dad. That's why I can understand it, but still makes me mad how the author after making her even more insane throws her a nice happy end with them as friends. (the end was rushed af like everything was solved with wishing like that, where pretty much in the past was solved by learning from mistakes and information of the future to fix the past)

tl;dr I can agree to some points, but going for a fully happy end in all sides rubs me the wrong way, and kinda cheapens some parts of the story

 

[22nd_Ranger]

The father sucks, he should off himself.