Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover - Vol. 5 Ch. 36 - Motive

[Kalbiaczek]

MY GOD if she doesen't achieve a good ending becuse of that clover guy i will loose my fucking mind

 

[pladiarism]

Ok hear me out. The person is Yotsuha from a different timeline. With the clover, the fact she mentioned she was one of the ones who killed him the first time around, and the fact the person who wants revenge for someone being killed. So maybe it's weird time bs where she's getting revenge on her self for being the one to start this whole mess.

But idk I probably just can't cook lol

I doubt it’s yotsuha mostly because as far as we know there’s only one yotsuha at a time. I also doubt clover is the guy who they’re telling us it is because it’s too obvious. No one else could be them except the dad or the other childhood friend who hacks and stuff, but i doubt it’s either. Ultimately I’m pretty sure it’s someone who hasn’t been introduced yet but if it’s not it’s probably the hacker person.

 

[TheEnd478]

I doubt it’s yotsuha mostly because as far as we know there’s only one yotsuha at a time. I also doubt clover is the guy who they’re telling us it is because it’s too obvious. No one else could be them except the dad or the other childhood friend who hacks and stuff, but i doubt it’s either. Ultimately I’m pretty sure it’s someone who hasn’t been introduced yet but if it’s not it’s probably the hacker person.

If it's the guy, he has to be some type of SUPER GENIUS VERY CONNECTED SUPER LOSER seeing how this mess started in middle school. I say Loser since I have to wonder what the fuck happened for MC to be SCARED of someone he "saved" from bullies back then to not want to talk about him

 

[ChaosMAX1268]

If it's the guy, he has to be some type of SUPER GENIUS VERY CONNECTED SUPER LOSER seeing how this mess started in middle school. I say Loser since I have to wonder what the fuck happened for MC to be SCARED of someone he "saved" from bullies back then to not want to talk about him

I have a feeling the victim framed Uichi for something horrible, which empowered Eito and his gang to make Uichi's middle school life hell (for hypocrisy and "fun") and got everyone to "want him to die" for some reason. In one timeline Uichi reflects how "once again I was hated and betrayed," with an image of the mysterious boy appearing behind Yae (who was revealed to be his first high school bully). If what Yae did is comparable to the betrayal of the mysterious boy... seems like it was very heinous.

 

[TheEnd478]

I have a feeling the victim framed Uichi for something horrible, which empowered Eito and his gang to make Uichi's middle school life hell (for hypocrisy and "fun") and got everyone to "want him to die" for some reason. In one timeline Uichi reflects how "once again I was hated and betrayed," with an image of the mysterious boy appearing behind Yae (who was revealed to be his first high school bully). If what Yae did is comparable to the betrayal of the mysterious boy... seems like it was very heinous.

Yep may the updates come sooner

 

[Usernamer01]

I have a feeling that clover might be another time traveler

 

[Zuomyx]

I don't wanna Read This Shit Anymore. Somebody please kill that useless Sister

 

[terostootti]

Clover is Uichi for sure. He wants to kill himself for killing the girl in an alternate timeline.

 

[DeadBunny03]

Bro, his sister is a deadbeat since high school and been playing games and being online ever since, how the hell she noticed something that can be interpreted as nervous reactions like that as unusual in the middle of a serious event? Not to mention her lack of critical thinking when she got conned by that guy...

 

[idontthinkimreal]

Am I lost… or was “Clover” really telling her she wanted her brother to kill himself?? And she was just like “ok cool” wth??

 

[Kami_Nana]

Ok hear me out. The person is Yotsuha from a different timeline. With the clover, the fact she mentioned she was one of the ones who killed him the first time around, and the fact the person who wants revenge for someone being killed. So maybe it's weird time bs where she's getting revenge on her self for being the one to start this whole mess.

But idk I probably just can't cook lol

This chapter proved it's not her. Clover-san doesn't know about time-travel or the watch...Yosuha would know about the watch at the very least.

 

[Kami_Nana]

Am I lost… or was “Clover” really telling her she wanted her brother to kill himself?? And she was just like “ok cool” wth??

That was a flashback...it's from the phone of the guy that beat him to death with the baseball bat.

 

[idontthinkimreal]

That was a flashback...it's from the phone of the guy that beat him to death with the baseball bat.

Ohhh mb and thanks

 

[wallsg]

Is this Clover guy a retard. Literally every single person in the world knows a Four leafed clover specifically represents good luck.
I don't even care about his evil plans I want him killed for fucking up flower language that bad.

Japanese have their own flower language

I asked Gemini AI about it and it says that even in Japan about the only way it can be associated in with anything evil is from the number 4.

Spoiler: AI Chat

can a four-leaf clover stand for revenge?

The short answer is not really. In almost every culture and historical context, the four-leaf clover is the ultimate "good vibes" symbol.
While individual leaves are traditionally said to represent faith, hope, love, and luck, revenge is nowhere on the standard menu. However, if you're looking to weave this into a story or a personal symbol, there are a few ways people sometimes twist the meaning:

1. The "Bitter Luck" Concept​

In some modern dark-fantasy tropes, a four-leaf clover can represent luck that comes at a high price. If someone is seeking revenge, they might carry a four-leaf clover to symbolize the "lucky break" they need to finally catch their enemy. It’s less about the clover meaning revenge and more about using luck as a tool for a vendetta.

2. The Fifth Leaf​

If you want a symbol that actually leans toward something darker, you might be thinking of the five-leaf clover.

• Four leaves: Luck and divinity.
• Five leaves: In many fictional mythologies (most notably the anime Black Clover), the fifth leaf is said to represent a demon. This carries a much heavier "vengeance" or "dark power" vibe than the standard four-leaf variety.

3. Floral "Contradiction"​

In the Victorian "Language of Flowers" (Floriography), clovers generally meant "be mine" or "think of me." If you were to pair a clover with a flower that does represent revenge, you’d create a powerful contrast.

Plant	Traditional Meaning
Four-Leaf Clover	Extreme Good Fortune
Monkshood (Aconite)	Beware / Chivalry / Revenge
Bird's-foot Trefoil	Revenge / Retribution

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The Verdict​

If you give someone a four-leaf clover, they are going to think you’re wishing them well. If you want it to stand for revenge, you’d likely need to pair it with something more ominous—like painting it black or pinning it to a "Found You" note.
Would you like me to help you find other symbols or flowers that more traditionally represent revenge or retribution?

what does it mean in japan

In Japan, the four-leaf clover (yotsuba no kurōbā) carries almost exactly the same positive meaning as it does in the West: luck, happiness, and love. It is widely used in jewelry, wedding gifts, and student charms (omamori) to bring success in exams.
However, there are two specific reasons why you might associate it with a "darker" or "revenge" vibe in a Japanese context:

1. The "Number Four" Superstition​

In Japan, the number four is considered unlucky because one of its pronunciations is shi, which is the same as the word for "death" (死).

• Because of this, some people jokingly or poetically refer to the four-leaf clover as a "death-leaf clover."
• While 99% of people still see it as a lucky charm, in a gothic or "edgy" context (like in certain anime or subcultures), the play on words between "four" and "death" is sometimes used to turn the symbol into a curse or a sign of impending doom.

2. The "Black Clover" Influence​

If you are into anime or manga, you might be thinking of the series Black Clover. In this universe, the clover symbolism is explicitly redefined:

• Three leaves: Integrity, Hope, and Love.
• Four leaves: Good Luck.
• Five leaves: A Demon (often fueled by despair and revenge).

In this specific pop-culture context, a clover with an extra leaf is the ultimate symbol of a vengeful soul who has made a deal with a demon.

3. Bush Clover (Hagi) – A Different Vibe​

It's also worth noting that Japan has its own native "clover," called Hagi (Bush Clover). While it isn't related to the four-leaf clover, it is a classic symbol of autumn in Japan and often represents melancholy, unrequited love, or a "withering heart." It’s a sadder, more poetic plant than the Western lucky clover.

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Summary Table
| Symbol | Japanese Meaning | Context |
| :--- | :--- | :--- |
| Four-Leaf Clover | Luck / Happiness | General / Weddings |
| "Shi"-Leaf (4) | Death / Bad Omen | Wordplay / Superstition |
| Five-Leaf Clover | Revenge / Demons | Anime (Black Clover) |
| Bush Clover (Hagi) | Melancholy / Sadness | Traditional Poetry |
Are you trying to find a specific symbol for a character or a gift? I can help you find a Japanese symbol that fits "revenge" more directly if that's what you're after.

 

[KADogan]

Bets on it being the world's most petty bullshit driving this "clover" asshole... It isn't really a bet if it's 100-0, ig.