Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover

[Oobaka-san]

OK, looks like I was wrong.

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The manga presented the "Clover" who talked to Rei as adult-sized, but unless she's making things up Futaba was indeed the one from that flashback, the author just made her shadow look bigger to throw us off. It still strikes me as illogical for her to blame Yotsuha and given her intelligence and consistent dependence on logic I would've thought she wouldn't have accepted that logic, but then maybe her father's will just broke her that completely. Finding out that everything that'd supported her mentally was based on such a twisted fantasy, clinging to this idea that she should be happy her father looked at her at all, even as just a replacement, might have gotten her into the sort of state where she would indeed place an obvious delusion before logical thought.

And in that sense, the time traveling probably just made things far, far worse. Futaba's tears during the funeral in the first timeline seemed genuine. I suspect she might have actually despaired herself there. Seeing her goal finally achieved, the girl she blamed for everything crushed under the same pain as her, she probably felt empty. Perhaps instead of feeling satisfaction at Yotsuha's broken face, she only felt miserable seeing one of the two people she'd started to actually see as friends dead while the other is barely able to even walk. It might have finally turned her around to realize how pointless it was to blame Yotsuha, making her project into a fool's errand that only destroyed what little else she may have been able to attain. But then, seeing Yotsuha clearly acting with knowledge of the future, realizing and ultimately confirming that she'd found a way to travel back in time, might have just increased Futaba's distress and rage even further. It was the one thing her father had always longed to achieve but couldn't reach, the brilliant man she adored and admired couldn't do it, and the girl who she feels stole him from her managed to do it with ease. And at the same time, while she can go back far enough to stop her own tragedy, there's still no way to go back far enough to change her own fate. Hard to doubt that such a cruel situation would push her to levels of fury and hate that she'd never have known in the first round.

 

[Oobaka-san]

Holy crap this better lead to a loop VERY SOON.

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The confrontation over the last few chaps got intense. Uichi tried to convince Futaba that Yotsuha was just as much a victim as her, but Futaba, unable to let go of that twisted interpretation of her father's last words, "reveals" that "Yotsuha" has "killed" a total of four people. The first is obviously their father, and then the other two she's insisting only died because she exists were Yae, who Futaba manipulated into committing suicide, and the bully and his father, who finally lost it due to Futaba's machinations to keep the drama from his doxing up. Even then Uichi refuses to die or let Yotsuha die, and fortunately Mitsuha had managed to use the dirt he had on various cops to get the police there. Unfortunately, the cops didn't have proof that Futaba had done anything, and everyone else in the diner was being threatened or blackmailed and thus were unwilling to say anything about her. All they could do was go home and try to think of what to do next... when they heard sirens and realized that Uichi's house next door was on fire.

Newest chapter (95) starts with Uichi identifying his parents' and sister's bodies at the morgue, and then as he sits with Yotsuha Futaba texts them "It's because Uichi wouldn't commit suicide that Uichi's family was murdered". Uichi is struggling hard, desperately trying to support a completely broken Yotsuha who is completely buying into Futaba's lies about her being the cause of all this while also barely able to hold in the grief when he knows Yotsuha's watching. Eventually Uichi goes to speak with the police while Mitsuha takes Yotsuha home. Yotsuha asks her brother again to tell her that it's a good thing she was born, which he happily does. He returns the clover to her and tells her there might be hope as he believes the clover may still have power to turn back time, but no matter how hard she tries to pray her guilt and pain has her mind in so much chaos that she can't. Then as Yotsuha's walking in, someone runs up behind Mitsuha and stabs him. Mitsuha slams the door shut and yells through for Yotsuha not to open the door until Uichi gets there. Yotsuha can only scream as she hears her brother being stabbed over and over. He in turn just tells her not to look, not to open the door, and as his voice fades he says "None of this... is... your... fa..." Final image is Yotsuha sobbing muttering "mou muri" (it's impossible, maybe meaning it's hopeless, maybe meaning she can't take it anymore, unknown) and Uichi in the police station thinking through the tears "No matter what I/we will find a way to live on".

The tag at the end just says "They've flipped from that time", whatever that means. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if it's something like Uichi's going to come home to find that Yotsuha'd killed herself and this time he's able to use the clover to rewind, maybe just to the start of the day, maybe to sometime well before. They're definitely going to have to either end it all or bring back the loop mechanism soon, because we pretty much have no cast left besides Futaba, Yotsuha and Uichi.

 

[Akxis600]

Spoiler: Chapter 97 JP

WTF NOOOOOOOOO

 

[LordofScones]

Spoiler: Chapter 97 JP

WTF NOOOOOOOOO

Spoiler: Chapter 97 JP

But its not over even after the suicide? Im scared to see where this is gonna go

 

[Oobaka-san]

Spoiler: Chapter 97 JP

But its not over even after the suicide? Im scared to see where this is gonna go

OK, where are you guys getting this? I'm reading through the linked website and it's only up to 96 currently, where Yotsuha just made a wish to undo her birth and Uichi charged forward while space warped (presumably God granting the wish) declaring that he'd be Yotsuha's four-leaf clover.

 

[Akxis600]

OK, where are you guys getting this? I'm reading through the linked website and it's only up to 96 currently, where Yotsuha just made a wish to undo her birth and Uichi charged forward while space warped (presumably God granting the wish) declaring that he'd be Yotsuha's four-leaf clover.

Spoiler

You can try R*awkuma

Spoiler: Chapter 97 JP

But its not over even after the suicide? Im scared to see where this is gonna go

Spoiler: the ending :v

the alternate ending

 

[MrPP118]

Well...

Spoiler: Latest chapter spoilers

Uichi and Yotsuha have truly swapped places, in the present, Uichi is living a decent life, no bullying, no trauma but Yotsuha is not present, the chapter ends with him slowly getting his memories? I think so, didn't do a proper translation but I hope to god Uichi confronts Futaba.

 

[Oobaka-san]

Well...

Spoiler: Latest chapter spoilers

Uichi and Yotsuha have truly swapped places, in the present, Uichi is living a decent life, no bullying, no trauma but Yotsuha is not present, the chapter ends with him slowly getting his memories? I think so, didn't do a proper translation but I hope to god Uichi confronts Futaba.

Spoiler

For the most part. He says that every now and then he gets these feelings and flashes, this sense that there used to be someone there that should still be there but isn't anymore, and it always makes him feel like he's going to cry. This comes up when he gets a cut on his finger and remembers Yotsuha tying a clover or something around his finger. He then goes to the nurse's office and recalls Yotsuha's words asking him to remember even if she can't be around anymore (back when she was getting close to time to get her heart treatment).

Separate note, I kind of hope that at least something goes wrong in this timeline. If it ends up that everyone's living happy lives and the only thing marring it is Uichi remembering her, that won't make Yostuha feel like her life was worth it when she's brought back, it'll just convince her that her failing to completely erase herself was the problem. I mean, he might be able to argue that he's still happier with her, but I'd prefer it if there were SOME negatives to SOME people that went beyond just lingering memories. Of course, the most likely path for that would obviously be Kazuha, who is supposed to be dead now. It's clear she's still spreading her "joys of despair" cult and breaking people for her own entertainment, and she's caught Rei up in it, so I wouldn't be surprised if she causes more problems from her.


All that said, it certainly is notable that throughout this timeline we haven't seen the real baddy, Futaba, once. Something tells me her appearance is going to be very big, and either her life is going to be incredibly happy but still a little off (like her remembering the warmth Yotsuha gave her before she broke and started to despair), or with just a little prodding it's going to come out that her life is a living hell regardless of how she tries to paint it.

On a second note, has this been dropped or something? It's been a long time since the last chapter was translated.

 

[Dr_Brownies]

I have been reading this manga for 7 months now but I don't see why it has the gore tag

oh my god literally just read the first 10 chapters or so and you'll understand why

 

[Oobaka-san]

Finally got a new chapter on the official raw site, and we finally meet this world's Futaba. Honestly, this loop seems a little hard to buy with just how perfect everything is, and this point in particular seems off to me.

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Uichi is nearly breaking after going to the infirmary and remembering promising Yotsuha he'd never forget her and would always love her more than anyone in the world, though he still can't remember her name. So he goes to see Futaba, who suggests maybe he had a faulty time-leap, something she's been studying together with her sill-living father. She goes on about how he just needs to find the right "trigger", the right sight or experience to bring those memories back. Then as he jumps up to leave she thinks back to how he'd one day suddenly gone from liking her to being terrified of her, realizes her self from the other timeline might have done or been through a lot of awful stuff and concludes that him remembering might be a "disadvantage" to her, so she tries to stop him with some desperate claims that his bad memory might indicate he'd been through traumatic events that would be better left forgotten. Obviously he refuses because he can't bear to leave the girl he loves locked away unremembered.

What doesn't fit for me is the fact that apparently Professor Futatsuki is not only alive but doing very well. We know that he'd legitimately fallen in love with Kazuha, and that Kazuha had become determined to find a way to break him when he was at his peak. I can't see how her daughter dying would possibly lead to her giving up on that goal. It's not like she wouldn't have still been able to prove Yotsuha's existence, or find some other way to expose the infidelity, so she should have at least broken him even if she didn't drive him to suicide this time around. Yet somehow, even he is living a perfect life now, and it frankly doesn't make sense.