Koi to Yobu ni wa Sasayaka desu ga - Ch. 1

[NoxSodoma]

I uh.. hate to break it to you but

Yeah buddy, i dont think trying to lecture people in this kind of platform is a winnable battle.
Props to you though, good luck with that.

 

[Doutorfunga]

I like it better than Horimiya already.

Does horimiya have Jeffrey-approved pairings like this one?

 

[kucchi-desu]

meh really weak first chapter

 

[ipmanvsthemask]

Does horimiya have Jeffrey-approved pairings like this one?

You know what's also Jeffrey-approved? My dick up your ass.

 

[malfoym]

well mangakas always go to the dark side

 

[habla]

we are shown a guy who wears the façade of a shy and pure boy while consuming and drawing adult content and that it should be ok because it is his dream(?).

can you put into words what the supposed contradiction here is?

 

[NoxSodoma]

can you put into words what the supposed contradiction here is?

Idk what you mean by this.
It's not a contradiction, it's just how it is.
Now, the fact is that grouping eroticism with innocence is a pretty sus sign of a fetish, and not the "ok" kind. We know that is something impossible to actually exist, at the end of the day it's all perversion.

Pornographic content of any kind has been proven to be a problem since forever, it creates social, mental, physical and relationship problems. The simple japanese culture of mangakas and "otakus" to see such type of content as normal and deserving of praise to whoever makes/reads is a huge problem.
Just look at the amount of lolicon/shota content that exists and people display those with pride.

Like I said, I hope the guy develops to a better side of that industry and personal life. Since this is a 16 years old girl with a 24 years guy type of romance, I also expect the "but it's legal there" argument to not exist and see people with an actual moral compass.
Or idk, I'm expecting too much from the author of Horimiya, my favorite romance manga ever.

 

[Doutorfunga]

You know what's also Jeffrey-approved? My dick up your ass.

And then you wonder why they pick on you in class.

 

[MasterKurosawaKakeru]

Pornographic content of any kind has been proven to be a problem since forever, it creates social, mental, physical and relationship problems. The simple japanese culture of mangakas and "otakus" to see such type of content as normal and deserving of praise to whoever makes/reads is a huge problem.
Just look at the amount of lolicon/shota content that exists and people display those with pride.

Except literally all of this is complete bullshit. Next you're gonna try to tell me about "porn addiction", a condition not acknowledged by psychologists but one that is touted online as this massive problem. People can certainly have problematic relationships with porn, but that is usually because of other underlying issues and the treatment for it is to uncover and deal with those rather than anything else. So no, porn doesn't "create" those issues, there is no good research suggesting that.

There is a debate in academia about whether or not porn can affect sexual aggression, but any evidence for it has been found inconclusive, and in fact there are studies to support both sides, that is some studies even suggesting that porn may in fact reduce sexual aggression in people - though again, neither side has conclusive evidence.

Even when it comes to otaku and lolisho content, this "problem" of yours is one you've made up in your head rather than anything else. There are vast amounts of literature to indicate that this type of thing is perfectly fine, not that this has ever stopped people like you. I see enough of this anti-sex tripe on twitter, I don't need it to show up on mangadex too now.

 

[Cosmism]

Yeah buddy, i dont think trying to lecture people in this kind of platform is a winnable battle.
Props to you though, good luck with that.

Wasn't really a lecture. Was mainly indicating that the situation is worse from a modern ethics/morality perspective than they thought.

 

[NoxSodoma]

Even when it comes to otaku and lolisho content, this "problem" of yours is one you've made up in your head rather than anything else. There are vast amounts of literature to indicate that this type of thing is perfectly fine, not that this has ever stopped people like you. I see enough of this anti-sex tripe on twitter, I don't need it to show up on mangadex too now.

Keep telling yourself that, if your sense of morality finds pedo content on the internet/literature "perfectly fine", why not show that to people? Tell your parents, friends, girlfriend, be proud of that.

Like you said, both sides cannot give proper proof of pros or cons of porn, but just the fact that the cons exist and people who get rid of it on their lives see actual change and benefits, tells me a lot about porn and it's effects on people.

Selling sex became so common with the internet that thoughts like yours are common and even used to justify the consume of the "products" coming from such terrible industry, most of the time in a exagerated and compulsory way.

So no, I will not stop with the anti-sex "tripe". Having to navigate through the sea of suggestive mangas with high school girls showing their parts is not something I will turn my face from. I love mangas and this immoral "fan service" is giving it a bad name and disgusts me.

 

[MasterKurosawaKakeru]

Keep telling yourself that, if your sense of morality finds pedo content on the internet/literature "perfectly fine", why not show that to people? Tell your parents, friends, girlfriend, be proud of that.

Like you said, both sides cannot give proper proof of pros or cons of porn, but just the fact that the cons exist and people who get rid of it on their lives see actual change and benefits, tells me a lot about porn and it's effects on people.

Selling sex became so common with the internet that thoughts like yours are common and even used to justify the consume of the "products" coming from such terrible industry, most of the time in a exagerated and compulsory way.

So no, I will not stop with the anti-sex "tripe". Having to navigate through the sea of suggestive mangas with high school girls showing their parts is not something I will turn my face from. I love mangas and this immoral "fan service" is giving it a bad name and disgusts me.

Several of my friends know about my views on fiction and share in them, in fact, because they're intelligent enough to not judge something based on personal disgust, but on proven harm and scientific evidence, of which there is none, something you did not even try to contest. Instead you're trying to appeal to emotion ny equivocating lolisho content to pedophilia, which, if you'd read the literature, you'd know was an erroneous comparison.

And just as a side on porn in general, a couple friends of mine literally work for big porn sites and proudly tell their family that. All it ever gets is a chuckle at first, but no more.

And no, it doesn't. Lots of things can be bad for people for various reasons. As I said, problematic relationships with porn often have to do with other issues or is straight up caused by their religious views, in which case the porn usage is the symptom, not the disease. Sure there's cases of people where stopping porn helped them, but this is not necessarily indicative of porn being the root issue, nor is it indicative of porn being generally harmful on a societal scale. And all your moral grandstanding does is tell me about your personal views. Consider that your personal sense of disgust should not dictate what is right or wrong.