Koko wa Ima kara Rinri desu. - Vol. 10 Ch. 52 - Prayer

[MangaDex]

 

[Kendama]

I liked that at least Takayanagi hesitated a little bit before smoking in this chapter. Kept the bad habit in the end, though. Oh well.

 

[Babymech2]

This is why you don't study ethics, it's just too dangerous. Most people who have studied ethics are dead now

 

[Novis]

Yeah. Coming to terms with the end is hard.

 

[malu]

why do people marry when they barely give a shit about each other ?

 

[Fssamiel]

Having to face the end, especially when you've spent your live probably doubting that there's an afterlife is hard I imagine, yet also somewhat freeing, it ends , no eternal reward/circle/punishment, it began with you and ends with you

 

[AStrangerIsHere]

So I guess the girl we saw at the start of chapter 48 was Takayanagi'ex wife, Kikukawa. Maybe an old classmate, given that sensei knows her?

By the way, at page 12, is sensei really saying: "It figures. That's just how you are." Shouldn't he rather be saying "That's just how she is"? Or maybe, he's saying that because of the "might have" Takayanagi said before.

 

[pip25]

I'm not sure how true it is, but the chapter reminds me of the saying "there are not atheists on a falling plane".

 

[nxneil13]

This chapter was very melancholoy but very good

 

[PinkMage]

why do people marry when they barely give a shit about each other ?

Fear of loneliness

 

[rotateurowl]

Yeah, I lost a family member very recently, and this is pretty much how it went, first they were fine, then things kept pilling up, until they just became a shadow of their former self. I am an atheist, but, it was the first time in ages I prayed, I knew there was no cure, I just prayed for them to pass away peacefully and painlessly.

This chapter hits hard.

 

[Ceiye]

I have so many words and thoughts about this chapter. Fear of loneliness and the end. Actions you know will expedite your death but doing it anyways for momentary comfort.  Giving that to someone you don't want to believe is close to death but knowing they are. Using distance and a lack of belief to be a smartass, intentionally or not. Belief in anything, not just in any particular god, as a source of comfort and strength. Where do I even begin. I kind of don't even want to.

 

[Entity_K]

It's hard not to believe in some divine entity when your loved one's fate is literally out of your hand and you can't do anything to prevent bad things anymore.

 

[Doomroar]

Sanami-san clearly has a cruch on Takayanagi, but it would never work out, Naganori is clearly a father figure for Takayanagi, if not The father figure, so on his eyes Sanami is probably just a lil sister

In essence in this chapter Takayanagi has to grief and deal with the idea of losing the dad he finally found late in life

why do people marry when they barely give a shit about each other ?

At least for Takayanagi it seems it was cheer social pressure, remaining single would have put him in awkward position at work, usually those kind of expectations are more heavily imposed on women, who are pushed to get married and have children before they hit 30, but it is not like we men are not immune to the same pressure even if it is way lesser

So I guess the girl we saw at the start of chapter 48 was Takayanagi'ex wife, Kikukawa. Maybe an old classmate, given that sensei knows her?

By the way, at page 12, is sensei really saying: "It figures. That's just how you are." Shouldn't he rather be saying "That's just how she is"? Or maybe, he's saying that because of the "might have" Takayanagi said before.

I think it still works as it appears in the chapter

Keep in mind that Naganori sensei is saying "It figures. That's just how you are" in response to Takayanagi saying that his ex "Might have cheated on him"

Naganori then makes emphasis on "might have, huh?", meaning that Takayanagi doesn't knows IF his ex actually cheated on him, nor made any effort or even bothered on finding out what really was happening with his ex, the relationship ended, and he still has no clear answers

Hence "It figures. That's just how you are", this is a loaded sentence, it exposes that Takayanagi is content with the explanation that from the start they were never a good match, and that it was normal for them to eventually breal up, rather than to focus on wether she was seeing someone else or not, as if it were something that is of no concern to him

While everyone else would have wanted to know more details, or find a transgression to blame the marriage ending on, Takayanagi would rather not delve into such things

That in itself also exposes that, Takayanagi was really detached on his marriage, his involvement and investment on the relationship was so shallow that he never really bothered to find out what his ex was doing, which in a way is also a form to avoid taking responsability for his own shortcomings, she may or may not have cheated on him, but he was clearly not involved enough, not even to the point of wanting to know if she was cheating on him

I always wanted to know more about Takayanagi's married life, but given this chapter i am now convinced that we may not get that side of his life, since it didn't appar to have been that impactful to him

 

[ocvampirecreeg]

So I guess the girl we saw at the start of chapter 48 was Takayanagi'ex wife, Kikukawa. Maybe an old classmate, given that sensei knows her?

By the way, at page 12, is sensei really saying: "It figures. That's just how you are." Shouldn't he rather be saying "That's just how she is"? Or maybe, he's saying that because of the "might have" Takayanagi said before.

Professor Ogura is talking about Takayanagi saying he "might have" been the one who was cheated on by his former wife, Kikukawa. He is not referring to Kikukawa's character and the way she acts. For me, the most obvious pointer to this is that Ogura repeats Takayanagi's "might have" just before saying "that's just how you are", which emphasises Takayanagi as the subject rather than Kikukawa.

I took what Ogura said to potentially mean a number of things:

• Takayanagi dances around the subject instead of stating things plainly. Ogura knows him well enough to know that this is just the kind of thing Takayanagi does when asked about his personal life.
• Takayanagi is passive about the situation. He downplays it, perhaps because he doesn't care enough to talk more about it. Ogura probably knows this about him, saying that Takayanagi is just a passive person when it comes to a situation like his.
• Takayanagi was not a good match for Kikukawa. This is stated directly in this chapter when he himself says "we never were a good match". This is also seen in the previous chapter when Takayanagi is redoing his lesson plan and his (who I assume) partner comes to his apartment to bring him food. He is very dismissive of her, only giving her some more attention because she has a package from Ogura. Perhaps Ogura was saying "that's just how you are" as a reference to him not being a good match for Kikukawa, potentially even pushing her to cheat on him due to the lack of attention he had been giving her.

I'm also pretty sure that Ogura has never met Kikukawa, at least it isn't ever stated that they've met in the series, so he likely has no real understanding of her personality. The most he's heard about her is probably in chapter 19 when Takayanagi is talking with him about her, but nothing major is said about her.

I'm leaning more heavily into the first two points I made. My third point was just something I thought about in passing that developed into a bit of a tinfoil hat theory.

 

[Churkey]

Not bad to be intoxicated by something as long as it don't hurt nobody and keeps you going no?
Religion, nicotine, rationalism, whatever it may be.
But can't he cry when his idol is on the verge of death?

 

[ghostkun]

On his last day, my dad asked me to buy a drink for him, a jug of wine or some cheap shit. I said, sure dad, then went to school because who the hell's gonna sell an eighth grader booze first thing in the fucking morning lol

drunk to his dying day. that's the last lesson he gave me, intentional or not. i try not to let my vices control me... but now that i'm older, I can understand the struggle.

 

[77BLc9JwJGpLVARkamJx]

Sucks to watch people you know and/or love getting weaker like this.

 

[SpecialProjectY]

My grandmother passed away like that, in the span of a year turned from normal granny to dementia ridden shell, having diabetes enhanced the process rapidly.

Looking back to chapter about ethical dilemma with euthanasia, believe it would be better for her to pass away quickly instead the diaper-senile state where she couldn't recognize what is going on to a brief moment of clarity she had.

Also, it doesn't look like Takayanagi was always too busy in work, was the falling out of the marriage and "cheating" also partially his own work, probably not.
Might be the reason why he doesn't want to be involved in romance anymore...


Thanks for the scanlation!