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What is Viz, exactly?
Komi-san wa Komyushou Desu. - Vol. 29 Ch. 388.5 - Omake
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the publisher of Komi
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Church, Unless you're being forced legally to stop translating, why would you stop?
Mangadex is the site I come to for manga.
Also I hate Viz under normal conditions, and I can only imagine this simulpub stuff will be of rushed, low quality trash.
Mangadex is the site I come to for manga.
Also I hate Viz under normal conditions, and I can only imagine this simulpub stuff will be of rushed, low quality trash.
Welp thank you for the work so far. Guess Komi-scans saw this coming so they dipped. It's a shame though although we'll get faster updates the quality will suffer. I've bought the english volumes and I read the fan version too. I only used to read the volumes for the extras and collection purposes cause VIZ's translations are extremely cringey. They excessively localize. You can see it with their manga plus series no honourifics and high schoolers calling each other Mrs or Mr. You also miss a lot of the nuance and context with TL notes or jokes or just names with theirs. Especially for pun heavy series like these, and where pun are a part of character names. I wouldn't even call what they do localization, it's more akin to americanization with their changing of units and currency. Also since this is going to be simulpub the image quality will be much worse. Unless people actually complain to them about the quality of the images or translations nothing will change. Look at what happened with chainsaw man for a 100 plus chapters. Until people got fed up and they finally decided to do something about their grainy pages. Which wasn't in the raws or Spanish version. Just gonna make one of my favourite series much less enjoyable. I guess I'll stop buying the volumes too since you guys will do the extras. Also Kirei cake is based for not dropping Frieren even though it's getting a simulpub. RIP.
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K-manga has better TLs and image quality but their platform sucks ass and they censor shit. But VIZ TL and image quality is DOGSHIT.
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Yet somehow that doesn't happen with any other form of media. Why is that? Curious.
See above.
I don't want to see ads when I pay for something. Period.
I am not saying it should be free. I am saying it is poorly implemented, misleading, inaccessible for many people, and above all inferior to actually downloading/owning an actual physical copy. You have not proven any assertion you've made, you are wrong in everything you've said, and nothing will change the fact that region locked simulpub is bullshit. US comics for all their faults figured out how to do digital distribution right: sell digital download copies that people keep for themselves, end of story.
This wave of digital simulpub is not being done for the readers. It's being done in the cheapest fashion, in the laziest way, and in the most halfassed method since Dark Horse put out half-chapter monthlies with flipped art. The publisher bootlickers can claim it's the same as good scanslation until they're blue in the face, it won't be true.
That's because Viz is smartphone app only, which means they think they can get away with terrible image quality because they think people are reading it on three inch wide screens. Which is a whole 'nother can of worms.
And to the people crowing about how it's just a bunch of pirates crying over it... Do you honestly believe the creators are getting some massive payout off of every single series being available for a few bucks a month? If anything, they should be the most pissed off since this is guaranteed to be a worse deal for every single one of them versus residuals for individual volumes.
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dang. i mean ill keep reading on Viz cause is available where i am, but i don't like having to use like 5 apps, just to read maybe 1 series from that publisher. having it all in one place is much more convenient. also like some have said, the fact they lock chapters after like a week makes far more difficult for newcomers to easily access series, without having to pay for something they might not even like
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That's because Viz is smartphone app only, which means they think they can get away with terrible image quality because they think people are reading it on three inch wide screens. Which is a whole 'nother can of worms.
My brother in Christ, Manga Plus is Shueisha's direct site/app, Viz's are Shonen Jump and Viz Manga
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Oh well, it had lost some drive for a while anyway. Perfect chance to drop. See ya and thanks for all the fish!
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holy shit, you can't even differentiate mangaplus, viz, and SJ app. you are insisting for something you know nothing of. this is the dumbest take i've seen this week.Yet somehow that doesn't happen with any other form of media. Why is that? Curious.
See above.
I don't want to see ads when I pay for something. Period.
I am not saying it should be free. I am saying it is poorly implemented, misleading, inaccessible for many people, and above all inferior to actually downloading/owning an actual physical copy. You have not proven any assertion you've made, you are wrong in everything you've said, and nothing will change the fact that region locked simulpub is bullshit. US comics for all their faults figured out how to do digital distribution right: sell digital download copies that people keep for themselves, end of story.
This wave of digital simulpub is not being done for the readers. It's being done in the cheapest fashion, in the laziest way, and in the most halfassed method since Dark Horse put out half-chapter monthlies with flipped art. The publisher bootlickers can claim it's the same as good scanslation until they're blue in the face, it won't be true.
That's because Viz is smartphone app only, which means they think they can get away with terrible image quality because they think people are reading it on three inch wide screens. Which is a whole 'nother can of worms.
And to the people crowing about how it's just a bunch of pirates crying over it... Do you honestly believe the creators are getting some massive payout off of every single series being available for a few bucks a month? If anything, they should be the most pissed off since this is guaranteed to be a worse deal for every single one of them versus residuals for individual volumes.
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did the same thing happen with dress up darling
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Thanks for all the work Church !
It's a net gain overall, but still sad that we are still stuck with Viz translations, especially for a pun-heavy series like Comi. It's been fun.
It's a net gain overall, but still sad that we are still stuck with Viz translations, especially for a pun-heavy series like Comi. It's been fun.
Need to comment on this since clearly some of y'all didn't know what you're talking about.
About the "temporary license and it will be gone after certian period"
I get this concerned over licensed stuffs on digital platforms. But first off. Viz Manga came directly from Viz, aka the English publisher of several manga series in the US. Including Komi! They are literally the official publisher of the series in US/Canada that offers simulpub releases in the first place!
As a fun fact, Viz was originally founded by Shogakukan, and currently being co-own by Shogakukan and Shueisha, two well-known manga publisher. The former is the Japanese publisher of Komi Can't Communicate in case you didn't know.
What I'm trying to say is, it would be really weird for a US manga publisher to lost the rights to a series that their parent company owned, wouldn't it?
Also for the case of the Viz Manga app. All chapters are able to read and download if you buy the monthly subscription service, which is only two US dollars per month. (That cost less than my lunch!) The only caveat is the 100 chapters per day limit, and since it's a subscription, you don't own anything, but it still grants you all access of Viz's library, new and old. Most subscriptions are at least more expensive than this. So if you can't afford it, either you're broke (which is fair, you probably have more important things to spend on) or a cheapskate who only wants to get stuffs for free.
By the way, you can also just buy the released volumes outright. But it will be much more expensive than what a typical manga cost in where you live, since it's based on the US prices of said manga. (Komi for example costs 9.99 USD for each volumes) So it's not great for people outside US/Canada. Then again, there's that two dollars per month subscription. Might as well get that if you want to read Viz's library and buy the books elsewhere that suit your case.
Either way, this concerned was dumbfounded at best.
The Region-locked issue/Simulpub is a "bad" thing.
The formet is a simple case of licensing. Viz, being a US company, only have licenses to publish their stuffs in US/Canada for the most parts. Anything outside that is up to the Japanese publisher.
Yes, it's suck the official simulpub is only in US/Canada. But it getting simulpub at all is a good thing. Readers can now support the publisher and in turn, the creator, directly through the Viz app/website.
For people outside US/Canada. (myself included) There are other way to read Viz's simulpub releases, either websites that host them (i.e. pirate time) or using VPN/APK to access their website and app respectively.
(For me, I use VPN to download the Viz app from the Play Store. After that it's all smooth sailing since the app itself wasn't region-locked, so I can read the latest chapters without VPN handicap)
And for the latter, don't give me the "you don't support the creator this way" bullcrap. 'Cause it's not true. The publisher get to knows how many people read a series from simulpub, and lay the message to the creator that way. It might not be direct royalty payment, but it is still something you can support the creator directly.
(As an example, The Hunters Guild: Red Hood didn't perform well in Japan and eventually got axed pretty quick, but it got surprisingly high US reading counts through simulpub on Manga Plus that Viz decided to publish the series physically anyway. It's really rare for a canned manga series to get a book release in the US. So this shows how simulpub can help a series in some way)
Hell, simulpub happened in the first place because the publisher want people outside Japan to support their titles directly and on par with Japan. If you think simulpub releases are a "bad" thing then you don't know how much it helps getting a series to reach more people and thus, explode in popularity.
Like, Spy x Family. One of the most popular series last year, thanks to the anime adaptation. Got its first awareness from the fact it got an English simulpub day one on Manga Plus. Thus, English readers got curious to know what this manga was at the same time as Japan. Reminder that the creator was essentially a no-name before Spy x Family. But thanks to simulpub, both Japanese AND English readers got to know his works and spread its awareness to more people than it ever could.
Anyway, that's the two points I want to address in this comment. Sorry that it's excessively long and explaining-heavy, but I want to make sure most people here understanding what I'm saying, and found my comment useful. Since some people here have shown they know absolutely nothing what they're talking and just want to read the latest chapters for free on this site.
About the "temporary license and it will be gone after certian period"
I get this concerned over licensed stuffs on digital platforms. But first off. Viz Manga came directly from Viz, aka the English publisher of several manga series in the US. Including Komi! They are literally the official publisher of the series in US/Canada that offers simulpub releases in the first place!
As a fun fact, Viz was originally founded by Shogakukan, and currently being co-own by Shogakukan and Shueisha, two well-known manga publisher. The former is the Japanese publisher of Komi Can't Communicate in case you didn't know.
What I'm trying to say is, it would be really weird for a US manga publisher to lost the rights to a series that their parent company owned, wouldn't it?
Also for the case of the Viz Manga app. All chapters are able to read and download if you buy the monthly subscription service, which is only two US dollars per month. (That cost less than my lunch!) The only caveat is the 100 chapters per day limit, and since it's a subscription, you don't own anything, but it still grants you all access of Viz's library, new and old. Most subscriptions are at least more expensive than this. So if you can't afford it, either you're broke (which is fair, you probably have more important things to spend on) or a cheapskate who only wants to get stuffs for free.
By the way, you can also just buy the released volumes outright. But it will be much more expensive than what a typical manga cost in where you live, since it's based on the US prices of said manga. (Komi for example costs 9.99 USD for each volumes) So it's not great for people outside US/Canada. Then again, there's that two dollars per month subscription. Might as well get that if you want to read Viz's library and buy the books elsewhere that suit your case.
Either way, this concerned was dumbfounded at best.
The Region-locked issue/Simulpub is a "bad" thing.
The formet is a simple case of licensing. Viz, being a US company, only have licenses to publish their stuffs in US/Canada for the most parts. Anything outside that is up to the Japanese publisher.
Yes, it's suck the official simulpub is only in US/Canada. But it getting simulpub at all is a good thing. Readers can now support the publisher and in turn, the creator, directly through the Viz app/website.
For people outside US/Canada. (myself included) There are other way to read Viz's simulpub releases, either websites that host them (i.e. pirate time) or using VPN/APK to access their website and app respectively.
(For me, I use VPN to download the Viz app from the Play Store. After that it's all smooth sailing since the app itself wasn't region-locked, so I can read the latest chapters without VPN handicap)
And for the latter, don't give me the "you don't support the creator this way" bullcrap. 'Cause it's not true. The publisher get to knows how many people read a series from simulpub, and lay the message to the creator that way. It might not be direct royalty payment, but it is still something you can support the creator directly.
(As an example, The Hunters Guild: Red Hood didn't perform well in Japan and eventually got axed pretty quick, but it got surprisingly high US reading counts through simulpub on Manga Plus that Viz decided to publish the series physically anyway. It's really rare for a canned manga series to get a book release in the US. So this shows how simulpub can help a series in some way)
Hell, simulpub happened in the first place because the publisher want people outside Japan to support their titles directly and on par with Japan. If you think simulpub releases are a "bad" thing then you don't know how much it helps getting a series to reach more people and thus, explode in popularity.
Like, Spy x Family. One of the most popular series last year, thanks to the anime adaptation. Got its first awareness from the fact it got an English simulpub day one on Manga Plus. Thus, English readers got curious to know what this manga was at the same time as Japan. Reminder that the creator was essentially a no-name before Spy x Family. But thanks to simulpub, both Japanese AND English readers got to know his works and spread its awareness to more people than it ever could.
Anyway, that's the two points I want to address in this comment. Sorry that it's excessively long and explaining-heavy, but I want to make sure most people here understanding what I'm saying, and found my comment useful. Since some people here have shown they know absolutely nothing what they're talking and just want to read the latest chapters for free on this site.
