Kominka Gyaru to Renovation Gurashi - Ch. 4 - I Want to Be Together Forever

[Hauberk1800]

thanks for the tl

 

[WatermelonPlease]

He is being healed

 

[pip25]

Open kitchens are overrated. Sure, you can, uh, talk to people while they're cooking. It also makes cooking part of family life whether you want it to or not, with the smells permeating the entire apartment. With the kitchen as a separate room it's easier to install proper ventilation.

 

[EulBassist]

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[DaJoey]

My man.

Marry her.

Make love.

Have babies.

 

[DoubleMatter]

I'm a little sad that they're speeding half-assedly through the home improvement stuff, because not only is it obviously sketchy* but it's leaving out all the joy and satisfaction to be found in the details and progress of construction. Most people reading aren't going to demo and rebuild a showa-era japanese home, and this thing could totally share that experience with us.

Person reading this: You are probably better equipped to do your own plumbing than you are to determine which walls in your home are safe to remove.

Yeah, what they showed had me internally screaming. Where the hell is moisture management? And you just put down one sheet of insulation and then throw on the floor directly?

 

[TNT261]

That is literally a marriage proposal. In fact I've seen people make marriage proposals with more half hearted words. That's a freaking wedding vow.

 

[goodhunter]

I'm not understanding how they're renovating the home ... I thought both of them were financially struggling, or at least not well off? Even despite all the work you try to do yourself, there will inevitably be a lot of things that you cannot do since they're not a general contractor that has experience in all aspects of home renovating and building. They'll have to hire professionals for things like electrical, plumbing, and so on. These things are not cheap. I love the romance and other slice of life portions of this, but the entire manga being centered on the premise of renovation, it does make it weird that they're able to do all of this despite not being financially well off. And despite the fact that the premise is centered around renovation, they're blitzing through the renovation so quickly in a single chapter and not even going into the details of home renovation and building.

 

[krugdm]

Marriage proposal in chapter four? I'm all in for not wasting time!

 

[essensue]

I think the comment section on this one illustrates a major concern going forward:

• Readers are confused or speculating about the very basics of the couple's backstory that the manga thinks it's already explained, like their closeness, relative ages, and family situations.
• People are saying the romance is progressing so fast that it feels worryingly rushed.
• There's discussion about the ex-wife plotline which didn't even get mentioned this chapter.
• Anyone who's swung a hammer is looking around like a stunned bunny like "the fuck just happened?"
• There's an observation that this is how things feel before they get axed... at chapter FOUR.

All this coming from a chapter that's 10 pages of construction (a "kitchen remodel" that only focuses on replacing the flooring in a different room entirely) and five pages of combined romance/backstory.

The story is trying to make up in speed what it lacks in focus, while still using the style and conventions of typical hobby and romance manga. Rather than condensing a sequence into a montage or explaining that the action happened off screen, it's simply omitted - like trying to double the speed of a film by leaving out every other frame. The result is that nothing makes sense or carries the emotional weight that it should. In both DIY and romance, focusing in detail on only two steps of a ten step process will create the impression that you did that intentionally, and that there's narrative meaning behind that choice... but I don't think there actually is, in this case? It's real weird, y'all.

It's almost like there's a gap between the story that got approved and the one the author wanted to tell.

I really hope that all this rushing is just in service of getting the story to a certain point where it can slow down and actually do things well.

 

[story645]

Readers are confused or speculating about the very basics of the couple's backstory that the manga thinks it's already explained, like their closeness, relative ages, and family situations.

I broadly agree w/ your post, but basically every romance manga section has folks projecting tropes (here gyaru age gap) on the characters.

 

[rmremail]

Open kitchens are overrated. Sure, you can, uh, talk to people while they're cooking. It also makes cooking part of family life whether you want it to or not, with the smells permeating the entire apartment. With the kitchen as a separate room it's easier to install proper ventilation.

When you have people over it's nice that you can talk to your guests as you finish the meal prep, and you can bring out the courses more easily.

 

[joeygold]

Remember that girl you liked?
Y'know, that girl you had around your neighborhood when you were about 6-10 years old
Remember how you liked being around her
How she made you feel special
Made your heart throb at some point
You probably didn't even realize the feelings you had for her
You weren't necessarily close with her
But you always wanted to get to know her better
You do?!
Great!!!
Now forgot about her
She ain't coming back
She already forgot about you
That girl ain't coming to fix your life
She isn't coming to give you that "what if" love life you always wanted
Give up on the illusion of her saving you
The only person who can save you is you

And If you are incapable saving yourself no one else can save you either

This is your reality
You can never escape nor forget it
Reading manga or doom scrolling will help alleviate the discomfort and pain of living
You gotta stay with pain
Look at your life
All those who achieved more than what was expected of them felt this pain
All of them used this pain to achieve things, a drug addict became sober, an abused child made a normal family, Someone who grew up in poverty became rich.
Without embracing pain and their realities none of them could have achieved It
Ignore this, move on, read another manga, open your phone, go to sleep, change tommorow.
This is your pain
This is your reality you are escaping
Drink alcohol, smoke weed, watch the latest match, that one youtuber you were following did something bad, learn about it.
Come on. You can't escape it the way dead people do
I get it stop yapping about it
This is the greatest comment of your life and you are trying to escape it
Modern World taught you to wait for girlfriend, teacher, police, politician to help you, to save you.
If those who wait for them live the way they do, what does that tell you about Modern World?
You have to consider the possibilty Modern World doesn't want you saved, It never wanted you. In all probability It hates you!
This isn't the worst thing that can happen,
To be loved by It we must wait to be saved.
But maybe we can't be saved by someone else
Maybe we don't need someone to save us
Fuck acceptance man, Fuck contentment.
We are Modern World's unwanted citizens. So be it.
Now,
You can start tommorow and work hard, lose all motivation in a week and return to your usual.
Or you can start by building discipline and ensure that you wont return to your usual
But first you have to give up, you have to know, not fear, Know that you can't be saved by someone else.
Its only after you stop waiting for the World, you can save yourself

 

[uHikari]

This feels REALLY short for a monthly manga.

It also feels unrealistic for 2 people to be able to just renovate the kitchen and install new floors over a weekend. They could have maybe made it a week long project and the two of them end up going all over town to find new places to eat while using this opportunity to learn more about each other's food preferences and such.

 

[essensue]

I broadly agree w/ your post, but basically every romance manga section has folks projecting tropes (here gyaru age gap) on the characters.

You're completely right, and even if it was spelled out in a concrete way, I'm sure we'd see at least one person not catch it.
Hell, in their defense, when it comes to "gyaru romance with adult(s)," "ojisan x JK" might outnumber everything else combined.

Yeah, what they showed had me internally screaming. Where the hell is moisture management? And you just put down one sheet of insulation and then throw on the floor directly?

I'm not understanding how they're renovating the home ... I thought both of them were financially struggling, or at least not well off?

I'm not coming to this expecting realism, but it's a bit much, isn't it? If the author isn't interested in the construction aspect beyond a metaphor for getting over old trauma and building a new life with someone, why be so specific about certain small parts of the process?

Point of contrast: A while back there was a romcom series called TeruTeru Construction Co. Ltd. in Jump+ about a cute aspiring architect who graduates high school and goes to work on a remote island as an assistant/trainee to the site supervisor at a commercial construction GC. Obviously, it's unrealistic and very idealized in a lot of ways. But what comes through very clearly is that the author looked at a job site, listened to real foremen, and had a respect for and fascination with the work that was being done. You got the sense that it made an impression on the creators and they had to share that feeling via their art, and they integrated it very nicely into their romantic comedy. I really liked what I read of it.

Naturally, it ended after 24 chapters, only ever got 1 chap scanlated (which got DMCA'd off MD,) and is unlikely to get an official translation... ever.
The same author/artist team went on to do Shinewbi, which did get an official TL via MangaPlus.

[CHEMICAL BURN]

"Someday," Tyler says, "you will die, and until you know that, you're useless to me."
Worth noting, by the way, that none of this was ever shown to be good advice in the end.

 

[ThatGuyScifi]

Naturally, it ended after 24 chapters, only ever got 1 chap scanlated (which got DMCA'd off MD,) and is unlikely to get an official translation... ever.

Damnit! That sounded really interesting, why can't we ever have nice things?

 

[story645]

but it's a bit much, isn't it?

It kinda feels like #renotok in manga form. Which also explains the unrealistic budget and time frame.

 

[joeygold]

Worth noting, by the way, that none of this was ever shown to be good advice in the end.

Not really, Through his advice he scored a free wage and infitinite plane tickets. And at any point in the movie he could have went corparate way with that charisma and become a multimillionaire in a year.

Writers at holywood just didn't want people to actually follow the advice so they kept inserting "its actually bad and disgusting" like the teethbrushing with dirty water, electrical hazard, and the rundown house. Honestly writers are pretty smart, they added lots of logical lore pitfalls as easy get outs for self satisfaction of the smart viewers. "Heh, as if. In real life cops are not dumb, You can't inflitrate political speeches that easily, Politician wouldn't listen to you, You can't make a crime syndicate, You can't hide a crime syndicate that well, You will die from infection if you do that, unproffesional people would die if they fought that hard while over concrete".
Just so smart viewers don't take in the usefull parts of the ideology. Another good thing movie did was associate the relavant philosophical parts with dumb logical pitfalls so later in life when viewers heard philosophies mentioned in film, philosophies were subconsciously associted with "how smart viewer felt after realizing movie was dumb" Of course thats not viewer felt while or right after watching the movie, but the strongest feeling left of the movie after few months of watching it.

Fun fact:
During World War II, the U.S. War Department utilized Hollywood to produce orientation and morale films specifically designed to foster camaraderie between soliders of different nationalities and backgrounds. Most of the soliders didn't remember the movies themselves but only the parts where, Different=Good. I think they did some tests on this effect of "subconscious association of good feeling with subject(s) of movies and propaganda" aswell

 

[essensue]

It kinda feels like #renotok in manga form. Which also explains the unrealistic budget and time frame.

I just went on a whole little 30-second journey from "wondering whether 'renotok' was Hungarian" to "worrying I was in receipt of cursed information" after punchin' it in my googler.

 

[essensue]

Not really, Through his advice he scored a free wage and infitinite plane tickets. And at any point in the movie he could have went corparate way with that charisma and become a multimillionaire in a year.

Writers at holywood just didn't want people to actually follow the advice so they kept inserting "its actually bad and disgusting" like the teethbrushing with dirty water, electrical hazard, and the rundown house. Honestly writers are pretty smart, they added lots of logical lore pitfalls as easy get outs for self satisfaction of the smart viewers. "Heh, as if. In real life cops are not dumb, You can't inflitrate political speeches that easily, Politician wouldn't listen to you, You can't make a crime syndicate, You can't hide a crime syndicate that well, You will die from infection if you do that, unproffesional people would die if they fought that hard while over concrete".
Just so smart viewers don't take in the usefull parts of the ideology. Another good thing movie did was associate the relavant philosophical parts with dumb logical pitfalls so later in life when viewers heard philosophies mentioned in film, philosophies were subconsciously associted with "how smart viewer felt after realizing movie was dumb" Of course thats not viewer felt while or right after watching the movie, but the strongest feeling left of the movie after few months of watching it.

Fun fact:
During World War II, the U.S. War Department utilized Hollywood to produce orientation and morale films specifically designed to foster camaraderie between soliders of different nationalities and backgrounds. Most of the soliders didn't remember the movies themselves but only the parts where, Different=Good. I think they did some tests on this effect of "subconscious association of good feeling with subject(s) of movies and propaganda" aswell

Actually, you've got it the wrong way 'round at least as far as the Hollywood adaptation goes, as it was given a much "happier" ending than the book and no consequences are really shown. The movie made Project Mayhem look a lot more fun and edgy. The film ends with Jack killing Tyler and showing no intention of continuing Project Mayhem, getting horribly scarred, and presumably wrecking the economy. The novel ends with the Narrator shooting himself in the face to try and kill himself/Tyler, but failing. He wakes up confined in a mental institution where the janitors tell him they're members of Project Mayhem and they're waiting for his return. It's implied that the Narrator will never be able to escape what "Tyler" created. Either way, he's worse off than if he never had the mental illness.

Both are good.