Koori no Hime wa Chiisana Hidamari de Tokasaretai - Ch. 8

[lfscruz]

Media literacy in this comment section is through the floor, how tf is the step dad the bad guy here? In fact, there is no bad guy here

 

[niononko]

Honest to say this is level parenting of average asian value
It sound shit but the father is right tho, since dude just get too happy with babysitting the twins he obviously could miss much from friends and school activity, their lecture is reasonable enough as parent that don't want their older child to miss out his youth chance. If you think bout it when dad said he spoiled him too much you could assume its mean just let him having fun with the twins and give him enough allowance that he don't need to think start working part time, for all of that is also form of dad spoiling him.
Also if you question why the 2 parents working so hard they looks like neglect their child, remember they raise 3 children and 2 of it still in kinder garden, its absurdly normal to think that as the main reason since economic wise its not easy to maintain to the future.

 

[mimemindmine]

I think the main reason the parents look bad is they can't resolve a decade old problem in a meaningful way. The last chapter indicates the mom is aware that the son has issues.

Whether she knows her son feels neglected/is love starved is harder to be certain of, but she knows that the son has a years old pattern of refusing to ask her for help. And, well, the audience only know the mom yelled at him for not trusting her, but has never convinced her own son that he could trust her for help.

There's also a chance that the mom's so busy with/exhausted from work that she never figured out/understood that the her son might have intense abandonment issues that he is afraid that his siblings may get.

Either way, the family's end result is fiancial stability with a time deficit. It's not the worst child rearing set-up, but it has its consequences.

 

[Novis]

And let the misunderstandings begin. rubs hands together.

 

[kyliee090]

People in comments failing to understand that the reason he parentified himself was because he didn't want the twins to go through the same amount of neglect (because of circumstance in his case) he went through and the parents just willing to throw money at it without understanding the core issue, yet being defended, is about on brand for people without children. There's a reason his initial reaction was to be angry about the father not spending time with the twins in page 6, rather than about anything else that was mentioned. Calling absent parenting good parenting is laughable.

 

[SchnappiSkello]

Jeez, this comment section is overreacting way too much over the parents being concerned with the son's academic life, Koori telling her brother about the situation (I guess???), and the siblings knowing about it

 

[Late_Komei]

I think I'm on Dad's side. MC's intentions are pure but if his grades are slipping, it's time to hire a babysitter.

 

[Azusu]

i think dad is right tho, if i was him, i would probably hire a babysitter for those 2 as well.

 

[Cernunnos]

Ehh. People are hating on the parents but as an Asian this feels normal to me. I don't think the parents did anything wrong here.

Must be a cultural difference.

 

[EdgarDrake]

Let's take a step back and try to sum this situation up with some assumptions:

1. MC has parents who focus on works that they unable to spend enough time with family
2. Most likely MC has been living through that lonely moment without both parents time, even before the twins born
3. Dad and mom to some degree has enough wages to take care of 3 children
4. MC doesn't want his twins suffer his past lonely moment (assumption), thus he take care of the twins with more dedication compared to working mom

I believe the parents simply lack dedication to grow their children, but have enough money to sustain the family, given both of them working.

Do I see this as bad parenting? From my "perspective", it can be. From other asian perspective, it might be normal to have both parents work and leaving the children to the nanny.

Are they totally in the wrong? Not totally, but to some degree, that the mom come back later at night,
I believe that's also can be the trigger for this "heated discussion".

 

[SilverSupreme]

In this thread:

A bunch of people who’ve never been in the position of having to financially support three children are upset that people have to work a lot because raising children and maintaining an upper-middle class lifestyle costs money?

Also yes Miharu’s a latchkey kid, but his mother was a single mother and they didn’t live in a nice apartment until she remarried. Getting a job with more flexible hours would mean not being able to pay rent to provide her child with an even modest apartment. Now she’s risen in her career and her son - who’s old enough to be home alone anyway - has volunteered to watch his new younger siblings so that she doesn’t have to sacrifice her currently thriving career or leave them with a stranger.

It’s not as if they’re being neglected either. Miharu babysits his younger siblings between the hours of like 2 PM to 8 or 9 PM - half of which is spent at someone else’s house where he doesn’t even need to worry about feeding them himself. His mother is still present in the mornings and late evenings, and his stepfather seems to be gone on business trips often but he’s still present in their lives. He just hasn’t been present in the few days or weeks that this manga has taken place over so far. As he’s said himself, he’ll be here a week this time. It can be assumed that he’s gone for a couple of weeks a month typically. He also shares custody with his ex wife so it’s not like the children are neglected while he’s gone - it seems that typically they would be with their birth mother for 1-2 weeks of the month anyway.

All this to say the parents aren’t absent full time and the protagonist isn’t watching them full time. He’s been watching them every chapter so far, but this could also simply be the author not showing us the time they’re with their birth mother off screen or not much time having passed since the manga began. This is to say that ordinarily the children would probably be with their birth mother while he has business trips anyway. Plus Miharu’s mother may have weekends off or something - we’ve only seen schooldays in this manga so far. We don’t have a full picture of their family dynamics or schedules yet.

A bunch of people are getting worked up and projecting grievances that aren’t present onto this manga and its characters.

The parents aren’t wrong for telling their son that he doesn’t need to watch his younger siblings if he doesn’t want to, that they don’t want him sacrificing his youth out of duty, and that they don’t want to give home a workload he can’t handle if his grades and social life are going to suffer.
You could interpret it as his younger siblings being taken away from him sure. But you’d have to disregard any and all nuance and have a childish worldview to arrive to that conclusion.
The children wouldn’t even be taken from him - they would go to a babysitter between the hours of 2 to 5 or so to allow him time to himself and to study. He would still see them. What Miharu’s upset about is without spending time with them in that specific window, he’d lose what’s connecting him to Mizudori. As he says himself, he’d have no more reason to come to her house after school. They aren’t formally friends after all. They’re in an ambiguous relationship of convenience because their siblings are friends. He doesn’t want to lose his time with her. This is the nuance a lot of people are glossing by over.

It’s comment sections like these that remind me that a good portion of the mangadex community probably aren’t working adults who have to pay rent and/or raise children and as a result can only empathize with the teenager’s surface point of view - in this case angry his new dad who doesn’t come around much is giving him ultimatums while trying to separate him from his cute new siblings.

 

[SilverSupreme]

Sorry for the rant but damn.

 

[jlm]

School rank eh? Brings back memories. Used to tryhard for that as well.

And now you're here

 

[Tamanor]

Sorry but was there a miss translation?
Because if not the audacity of the step dad to call the MC spoiled is crazy.

 

[SchnappiSkello]

In this thread:

A bunch of people who’ve never been in the position of having to financially support three children are upset that people have to work a lot because raising children and maintaining an upper-middle class lifestyle costs money?

Also yes Miharu’s a latchkey kid, but his mother was a single mother and they didn’t live in a nice apartment until she remarried. Getting a job with more flexible hours would mean not being able to pay rent to provide her child with an even modest apartment. Now she’s risen in her career and her son - who’s old enough to be home alone anyway - has volunteered to watch his new younger siblings so that she doesn’t have to sacrifice her currently thriving career or leave them with a stranger.

It’s not as if they’re being neglected either. Miharu babysits his younger siblings between the hours of like 2 PM to 8 or 9 PM - half of which is spent at someone else’s house where he doesn’t even need to worry about feeding them himself. His mother is still present in the mornings and late evenings, and his stepfather seems to be gone on business trips often but he’s still present in their lives. He just hasn’t been present in the few days or weeks that this manga has taken place over so far. As he’s said himself, he’ll be here a week this time. It can be assumed that he’s gone for a couple of weeks a month typically. He also shares custody with his ex wife so it’s not like the children are neglected while he’s gone - it seems that typically they would be with their birth mother for 1-2 weeks of the month anyway.

All this to say the parents aren’t absent full time and the protagonist isn’t watching them full time. He’s been watching them every chapter so far, but this could also simply be the author not showing us the time they’re with their birth mother off screen or not much time having passed since the manga began. This is to say that ordinarily the children would probably be with their birth mother while he has business trips anyway. Plus Miharu’s mother may have weekends off or something - we’ve only seen schooldays in this manga so far. We don’t have a full picture of their family dynamics or schedules yet.

A bunch of people are getting worked up and projecting grievances that aren’t present onto this manga and its characters.

The parents aren’t wrong for telling their son that he doesn’t need to watch his younger siblings if he doesn’t want to, that they don’t want him sacrificing his youth out of duty, and that they don’t want to give home a workload he can’t handle if his grades and social life are going to suffer.
You could interpret it as his younger siblings being taken away from him sure. But you’d have to disregard any and all nuance and have a childish worldview to arrive to that conclusion.
The children wouldn’t even be taken from him - they would go to a babysitter between the hours of 2 to 5 or so to allow him time to himself and to study. He would still see them. What Miharu’s upset about is without spending time with them in that specific window, he’d lose what’s connecting him to Mizudori. As he says himself, he’d have no more reason to come to her house after school. They aren’t formally friends after all. They’re in an ambiguous relationship of convenience because their siblings are friends. He doesn’t want to lose his time with her. This is the nuance a lot of people are glossing by over.

It’s comment sections like these that remind me that a good portion of the mangadex community probably aren’t working adults who have to pay rent and/or raise children and as a result can only empathize with the teenager’s surface point of view - in this case angry his new dad who doesn’t come around much is giving him ultimatums while trying to separate him from his cute new siblings.

You described how I felt about this chapter and this comment section so much better than I could've in at least 10 years

 

[EchoDelta4]

Sometimes, i wondered if people just can't believe a word has different meanings in regards to context.

 

[weleasewodger]

Hey piece of shit pretend dad, how about you be a proper dad instead of foisting that job onto Aoba. Get fucked

 

[Andasen]

In this thread:

A bunch of people who’ve never been in the position of having to financially support three children are upset that people have to work a lot because raising children and maintaining an upper-middle class lifestyle costs money?

Also yes Miharu’s a latchkey kid, but his mother was a single mother and they didn’t live in a nice apartment until she remarried. Getting a job with more flexible hours would mean not being able to pay rent to provide her child with an even modest apartment. Now she’s risen in her career and her son - who’s old enough to be home alone anyway - has volunteered to watch his new younger siblings so that she doesn’t have to sacrifice her currently thriving career or leave them with a stranger.

It’s not as if they’re being neglected either. Miharu babysits his younger siblings between the hours of like 2 PM to 8 or 9 PM - half of which is spent at someone else’s house where he doesn’t even need to worry about feeding them himself. His mother is still present in the mornings and late evenings, and his stepfather seems to be gone on business trips often but he’s still present in their lives. He just hasn’t been present in the few days or weeks that this manga has taken place over so far. As he’s said himself, he’ll be here a week this time. It can be assumed that he’s gone for a couple of weeks a month typically. He also shares custody with his ex wife so it’s not like the children are neglected while he’s gone - it seems that typically they would be with their birth mother for 1-2 weeks of the month anyway.

All this to say the parents aren’t absent full time and the protagonist isn’t watching them full time. He’s been watching them every chapter so far, but this could also simply be the author not showing us the time they’re with their birth mother off screen or not much time having passed since the manga began. This is to say that ordinarily the children would probably be with their birth mother while he has business trips anyway. Plus Miharu’s mother may have weekends off or something - we’ve only seen schooldays in this manga so far. We don’t have a full picture of their family dynamics or schedules yet.

A bunch of people are getting worked up and projecting grievances that aren’t present onto this manga and its characters.

The parents aren’t wrong for telling their son that he doesn’t need to watch his younger siblings if he doesn’t want to, that they don’t want him sacrificing his youth out of duty, and that they don’t want to give home a workload he can’t handle if his grades and social life are going to suffer.
You could interpret it as his younger siblings being taken away from him sure. But you’d have to disregard any and all nuance and have a childish worldview to arrive to that conclusion.
The children wouldn’t even be taken from him - they would go to a babysitter between the hours of 2 to 5 or so to allow him time to himself and to study. He would still see them. What Miharu’s upset about is without spending time with them in that specific window, he’d lose what’s connecting him to Mizudori. As he says himself, he’d have no more reason to come to her house after school. They aren’t formally friends after all. They’re in an ambiguous relationship of convenience because their siblings are friends. He doesn’t want to lose his time with her. This is the nuance a lot of people are glossing by over.

It’s comment sections like these that remind me that a good portion of the mangadex community probably aren’t working adults who have to pay rent and/or raise children and as a result can only empathize with the teenager’s surface point of view - in this case angry his new dad who doesn’t come around much is giving him ultimatums while trying to separate him from his cute new siblings.

Nice way of putting it.

They are only expressing their worry of their son's grade (which seems to be getting worse since he's started babysitting by the tone of it) so it is logical to assume that the babysitting is taking his time away from studying, they give him the option of just accepting the babysitter route which would free up his time or prove that him babysitting doesn't affect his grades.

It was Aoba's decision to babysit his siblings, so he need to take responsibility of the decision by not neglecting his other responsibility.

 

[altersen]

ranks are stupid imo.
50 people could get a 100% score. They all be the same, but someone has to get the 50th rank still despite doing just as good as 1st place.
on the other hand, out of 50 people, everyone bombs the rankings and 1st place possess a 1% score.

 

[GhostamsteR]

People saying that the dad is abusive etc really need some perspective, sure he's not the perfect dad and he should be around more but that DOES NOT make him a bad or abusive dad, at least from what we have seen so far he genuinely cares for his kids now sure should he have phrased it a bit differently and opened up a conversation with his son in law so that they could talk about his grades? probably yes, however he is looking out for his son in law in his own way by making sure that he keeps his grades up. My dad was gone for months at a time due to his job when i was young but I knew that he loved me and cared for me the only difference was I had my mom at home to raise my younger siblings. Despite that he still needed to provide for his family. I think this dad feels the same way so I find people insulting him to be disgusting to be honest, walk a mile in someone else's shoes before judging them.