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Can't help but feel the organisation would have a plan for him being captured and he has a magic tool that makes him able to resist the truth spell and everything he's just said is a careful cover story.
 
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So basically, they're not against magic at all, they just hate that people who can use magic without using tools are valued more than those who can't. Are we to believe that magic tools and the craftsmen who make them are snubbed at in this society?

Because otherwise, having a group of people with magic tools that are able to fend off an invasion of magical beasts won't do much here. People without magic abilities aren't suddenly going to be worth more after executing this plan, as magicians can also use magic tools whenever their magic isn't sufficient or able to deal with any given situation. At best, it will make magicians aware that having a magical tool on hand can be useful and that not doing so out of pride just isn't good enough.
 
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You know, considering that Sachi was mistreated by her biological family because of her low magic stat, I thought she would agree with the ideology of the bad guys, but she would be against their methods.
Now I also doubt that it would happen because we don't have any characters who have seen Sachi use her luck-based spells at school AND who could be in this evil organization, but it would be nice if any of the bad guys called her out on how she is also a privileged mage, since she can use the luck-spells reliably, like, she has the insta death spell, a perfect teleport, and that spell that can "Put your mana to sleep" so she can even take away other people's magic, which is a big deal in a magic-based society.
 
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They are not wrong about the dicriminating low magic apptitude. BUT the way the want to overrun the country and make the student suffer welp thats different story
 
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So basically, they're not against magic at all, they just hate that people who can use magic without using tools are valued more than those who can't. Are we to believe that magic tools and the craftsmen who make them are snubbed at in this society?

Because otherwise, having a group of people with magic tools that are able to fend off an invasion of magical beasts won't do much here. People without magic abilities aren't suddenly going to be worth more after executing this plan, as magicians can also use magic tools whenever their magic isn't sufficient or able to deal with any given situation. At best, it will make magicians aware that having a magical tool on hand can be useful and that not doing so out of pride just isn't good enough.
Wait, the more I think about Mistral's goals, the more it starts to make sense if you compare it to our history.

During our medieval pre-gunpowder era, Europe maintained feudalism because nobles are the ones with martial training and plate armor. It was only after the development of handheld guns outpaced the development of practical armor that we started focusing on guns rather than armor/melee weapons that require intensive training.

TLDR: It makes sense if you think of Mistral as a weapon/tool designer group trying to get people to invest in them by making their competitor (the mages) look bad. This kinda shit still happens irl to this day despite our modern speed of communication; countries cancelling purchase of certain weapon systems when it doesnt perform well in a war, or uptick of purchase plans when it performs well, despite the weapon systems in question having existed since the 1990s.

If Mistral manages to get enough initial funding/support to keep developing magic tools, eventually the tools will surpass mages, and there will be a tipping point when commoners can overthrow the mages.
 
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It makes sense if you think of Mistral as a weapon/tool designer group trying to get people to invest in them by making their competitor (the mages) look bad.
The only problem with this interpretation, is that Mistral is framing the problem as class warfare: society is set up to greatly favor magicians over non-magicians and Mistral is trying to fight against that discrimination. Magic tools are just used as an argument for why non-magicians can be on par, if not be superior to magicians.

My post was just pointing out that this massive attack that Mistral is planning can't possibly improve non-magicians' standing in society. Even if everyone believed that these monsters attacked out of their own free will, non-magicians won't be the reason why everyone will be saved, it's because of magic tools. Tools, which can be wielded by magicians as well. So while magic tools (and the craftsmen who make them) might get more appreciated by society due to this man-made disaster, the system can still continue to snub non-magicians.
 
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The only problem with this interpretation, is that Mistral is framing the problem as class warfare: society is set up to greatly favor magicians over non-magicians and Mistral is trying to fight against that discrimination. Magic tools are just used as an argument for why non-magicians can be on par, if not be superior to magicians.

My post was just pointing out that this massive attack that Mistral is planning can't possibly improve non-magicians' standing in society. Even if everyone believed that these monsters attacked out of their own free will, non-magicians won't be the reason why everyone will be saved, it's because of magic tools. Tools, which can be wielded by magicians as well. So while magic tools (and the craftsmen who make them) might get more appreciated by society due to this man-made disaster, the system can still continue to snub non-magicians.
Magicians equipped with magic tool will no doubt still be the ultimate loadout, but maybe Mistral is planning to kill enough magicians to force a situation where non-magicians gets increased societal responsibilities previously reserved for nobles (like our irl black death). Alternatively, they may just be trying to stress that there aren't enough magicians to take care of things when shit arent running smoothly like usual (why tf else are they conscripting students).
 
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Magicians equipped with magic tool will no doubt still be the ultimate loadout, but maybe Mistral is planning to kill enough magicians to force a situation where non-magicians gets increased societal responsibilities previously reserved for nobles (like our irl black death). Alternatively, they may just be trying to stress that there aren't enough magicians to take care of things when shit arent running smoothly like usual (why tf else are they conscripting students).
This is definitely a better argument than the theory that Mistral is basically the magic tool craftsmen society. :LOL:

The only thing is that this still doesn't take away that magicians are still more powerful/capable than non-magicians. You might reduce their numbers, but if you were to ask the average person on the street if they'd rather have a magician or a non-magician to have their back, they'll probably still choose the magician.

That said, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have an army of non-magicians. Especially if it would be true that the number of magicians is limited. Maybe magicians really are that dominant on the battlefield, but like you pointed out, the advantage that numbers bring you also can't be ignored.

The manga's story really does feel like a fairly small bubble around the MC. I feel like there's plenty of room for world building for any of us to really get a grasp of why certain choices were made. I mean afaik we haven't even seen how bad non-magicians have it in this world, yet they already introduced a group of people who are fed up enough of how they're treated that they're willing to overthrow the country...
 
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This is definitely a better argument than the theory that Mistral is basically the magic tool craftsmen society.
I was hopped up on coffee and fresh off browsing Lockheed Martin memes when I typed that first argument. It was a weird headspace lmao.
The only thing is that this still doesn't take away that magicians are still more powerful/capable than non-magicians. You might reduce their numbers, but if you were to ask the average person on the street if they'd rather have a magician or a non-magician to have their back, they'll probably still choose the magician.

That said, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have an army of non-magicians. Especially if it would be true that the number of magicians is limited. Maybe magicians really are that dominant on the battlefield, but like you pointed out, the advantage that numbers bring you also can't be ignored.
The manga's story really does feel like a fairly small bubble around the MC. I feel like there's plenty of room for world building for any of us to really get a grasp of why certain choices were made. I mean afaik we haven't even seen how bad non-magicians have it in this world, yet they already introduced a group of people who are fed up enough of how they're treated that they're willing to overthrow the country...
Story still haven't confirmed that they have no non-magician soldiers. For the context of attacking Mistral's base, tbh author could easily argue that too many attackers would just be getting in the way of friendly fire in such confined spaces, therefore they only sent a small but elite contingent of personnel.

Imo so far author neglects the worldbuilding a lot (lots of glaring issues left unanswered), with no signs of changing. Any lore established has been things that are related to the characters' emotions, instead of for the sake of worldbuilding. I wouldnt be surprised if author is making up the world lore on the fly.

Even Mistral feels like it's only introduced because it's a foil to Sachi, instead of being part of the worldbuilding. Hope that made sense.
 
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@boursk and @chemy1347 You guys are missing the other side of this conflict; Mistral is also spreading their magic drugs around to drive magicians insane. Tools are a lot more reliable than strong magic, when you don't know if that one using the magic got there naturally, and is therefore an asshole noble, or they're doping and could go on a rampage at any moment.
 

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