Kouritsu-Chuu Madoushi, Daini no Jinsei de Madou wo Kiwameru - Vol. 2 Ch. 13 - Wipe Away Those Tears

[MangaDex]

 

[SeaTurtle]

was I the only one thinking the fight was unfair? it was supposed to be ono-on-one... even if its a kid.

wondering who is gonna pay for the damage... the knight needs to take his sister money to pay for his drinks, so he is poor, only have a few coins to buy potion, it shouldnt be enough to pay either. Only the guildmaster seems rich, but she wasnt there.

zeefs mother: "finally! I single again!!"

 

[SSS26032002]

If he's the mage who specialized in red magic then why has he researched about time manupulation??... it's too much of an effective magic....

 

[firosahoge]

i guess the author won't allow boys into the party ?

 

[Drinkfist]

Immune to all Magic attacks. Really? that is what we are going with.

 

[bushwhacker2k]

This guy keeps casually pulling time magic out of his ass.

I get that this is supposed to be some lame emotional thing about Claude overcoming her past, but Zeff having to gang up on Cain with Claude really makes him look lame after he tried looking cool in the last panel of the last chapter.

@Drinkfist Agreed. Lazy bullshit that undermines the entire setting and system.

 

[TwilightFaze]

@Drinkfist: Why not? Some RPGs have magic-null and physical-null items and equipment. It may seem like lazy writing but how often is this scenario used, really? I don't see it that often, personally.

@SSS26032002: He addressed this earlier in that time magic was something he learned in his obsession to get stronger. Only natural he'd learn more than one spell for it.

 

[Degernase]

@TwilightFaze

Why not? Some RPGs have magic-null and physical-null items and equipment

For the sake of storytelling it seems like a cheap plot device to make up an excuse for why he had to work together with Claude. The only other option would be to make the brother disgustingly strong, but then why'd he be poor?

He addressed this earlier in that time magic was something he learned in his obsession to get stronger. Only natural he'd learn more than one spell for it.

But what even is this 'space-time magic'? He was supposed to have been super autistic about focusing on red magic in his past life but this should be void or maybe spirit magic.
It's a weird thing to gloss over in his backstory since it should be his biggest accomplishment, who cares about being able to make big ass fireballs if you can bend time and space to your will.

 

[TwilightFaze]

@Degernase:

For the sake of storytelling it seems like a cheap plot device to make up an excuse for why he had to work together with Claude.

It doesn't matter how strong or clever the brother is. With his attitude, being poor is an inevitability.
No disrespect, but "a cheap plot device" is more criticism for those who have read too much manga and seen too many similarities. That's what it feels like to me. It's the curse of reading too many books, playing too many games, watching too many movies, etc. The magic is gone and all you see are similarities and nothing new. Instead of noticing what's similar, I suggest (key words meaning NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO. Can't tell you how many times people thought otherwise. -_-) that you try to re (or re-read) a manga as if it WAS new; forget the rest you read and try to read it with new eyes. Easier said than done, I know, but it makes reading more enjoyable again, imo

He was supposed to have been super autistic about focusing on red magic in his past life but this should be void or maybe spirit magic.

False. Once he realized his Red Magic wasn't that strong, he decided to use the tools of his past life to get stronger and learn the other magics which he had no interest in in the past life. He's not trying to make the same mistake twice (that really WOULD make him autistic. And I can say that because I have a brother who is. I got stories.). My theory, however, is that while he as the POTENTIAL to bend space and time to his will, he didn't purely because of lack of interest back then except for those that amplified his Red magic (in this case just that one is what made the Crimson Blade). Now that he's focusing on all branches (still continuing my theory), he's going to learn more, but if it's anything like RPGs of the past, it's either gonna consume a hell of a lot of MP, your lifespan, or the spells are not gonna be as fantastic as we think (Hasten, temporary time freeze on one enemy not an area, etc.). Space-Time/Void magic is typically a "forbidden" art so it's not really focused much until things get serious (like final boss serious).

 

[Degernase]

The magic is gone and all you see are similarities and nothing new. Instead of noticing what's similar,

No I don't have a problem with magic immunity specifically, it's that I felt it was only introduced in order to drive the plot in a certain direction (which is why I called it a plot device). This way Claude gets a reason to intervene and solidify their companionship and it also lays out the groundwork for the mangaka to at any point make the MC completely useless (for plot reasons) by having an enemy be immune to magic.

It's basically kryptonite, if you write a super OP character that should realistically never lose, you write yourself into a corner and limit your own storytelling possibilities. So what do you do with this OP character? Introduce kryptonite: "Hmm how do we create a situation where a weak, female love interest saves Superman? Oh I know, the enemy left him in the gutter with a piece of kryptonite" repeat ad nauseum. My point is that I fear the mangaka will bring back this magic immunity every time he wants the MC to require assistance or is otherwise in a very tough spot and that is in my opinion just lazy writing.

False. Once he realized his Red Magic wasn't that strong, he decided to use the tools of his past life to get stronger and learn the other magics which he had no interest in in the past life.

He clearly learnt space time magic before traveling back in time, but chapter 1 makes it seem as if he goes back pretty much the moment after the scout scope is 'invented'. We've also not gotten any information about what this magic is, if it's something unique to him or if it's a type (void, red etc.) and at what point he spent researching it.

 

[Remy88Lebeau]

That will be the last we see or even get a mention of the mom I bet

 

[fathermurphy]

They didn't kill him?

 

[bocchiron]

You can't get more generic than this, lads

 

[The5thSeraph]

Shit. Does that mean we won't get to see Ms Claire again? Tragic.