Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear - Vol. 3 Ch. 23

[LysandersTreason]

@Vaqvbu1a

The chance of salmonella poisoning in places that wash their eggs (Japan, US, Canada) is ridiculously small anyway.


Most people eat their eggs cooked, but even if you ate them raw, you'd have to eat two raw eggs a day for 25+ years to have a reasonable shot at getting salmonella one time. Like it's literally 1 in 30,000 eggs or so.

Another benefit of refrigeration is that unwashed egg shelf life is about three weeks, but stored in a fridge that shelf life is about 50 days.

I'd also like to say that your fact of 'salmonella poisoning is a lot lower (like 1/0th) in countries like the UK' doesn't seem to bear up to scrutiny.

The rate of salmonella-infected eggs in the U.S. is estimated at 30,000 to 1.

According to R. ELSON, C. L. LITTLE, and R. T. MITCHELL (2005) Salmonella and Raw Shell Eggs: Results of a Cross-Sectional Study of Contamination Rates and Egg Safety Practices in the United Kingdom Catering Sector in 2003. Journal of Food Protection: February 2005, the salmonella rate for raw eggs in the U.K. was quite a bit higher than that.

Scientists collected 34,116 eggs, creating 5,686 pooled samples of six eggs from 2,104 different locations. Salmonella was found in 17 pools, meaning that 17 out of 34,000 eggs were contaminated, or a rate of about 1 in 2,000.

So really the United States' rate of salmonella is 1/10th that of the UK's.

 

[nono3]

These egg facts are the sole reason I read the comment section.

 

[martinren123]

In my country, most eggs doesn't go through sterilization. it just goes from farm to homes .Its fresher that way. There is even this farm here that produces eggs that has 100% 2 yolks inside. Most of us just cooks it and eat it but sometimes we eat it raw here too. I eat it raw sometimes but i only do it in hot foods (sisig, hot rice ect.) but in my 24 years of existence , i never caught salmonella.

 

[sirot]

I hope this egg thing is the foreshadowing of some unholy chicken-bear hybrid

 

[Vaqvbu1a]

@LysandersTreason

You seem to have missed the point. I'm saying the risk of salmonella poisoning is low even if the eggs are unwashed. I'm sure a washed egg shell itself has fewer salmonella bacteria than an unwashed egg shell. I mean... you literally just washed it off.

The study you quoted is about egg shells btw. Not contents of the egg.

According to CDC in USA.

CDC estimates Salmonella causes about 1.2 million illnesses, 23,000 hospitalizations, and 450 deaths in the United States every year. Food is the source for about 1 million of these illnesses.

Per 100k population: that's 366.97 illnesses per year in USA.

According to Public Health England for UK

Per 100k population: 14.78 illness per year in UK.

Okay... so it's not 1/10th. It's 1/25th.

 

[boag]

Another family gets added to the bear harem.

 

[Kizuro]

Those bear are just an oversized hamster

 

[GoblinGuy]

@Vaqvbu1a
While I agree that Lysanders isn't entirely correct due to the study being about egg shells, you're also not entirely correct since your statistics take into account all salmonella poisoning cases, which can also come from other sources such as chicken meat. I don't have time to look into it right now myself, but I think this may be a case of insufficient data available to really bring this discussion to a close.
What we can take away from it however, is that it's probably a good idea to wash your eggs right before using them? Never realized there even was salmonella bacteria on the shell, or that you could wash them off. TheMoreYouKnow.jaypegg

 

[Hikarie]

I feel the landlord who doesn't want to ride those cute cuddly bears

 

[DaJa-rahrah]

The egg thing people are either forgetting or just not noticing in this story's world is no one has managed to develop chicken farming. If the only way to get eggs is to climb a mountain, or a tree somewhere where there are monsters that need to be fought off. Doesn't matter if eggs last 2 months or 3 years put a few eggs in your pocket and go fight a dark souls like enemy, eggs are fragile and won't last a few tumbles. Then add in carriages with basic if any suspension shaking, and bumping around and the price of eggs start to rise.

Want eggs and bacon for breakfast? Send the guild a request, pay the money for the quest and 10 dead C ranks and a 50 dead D/E/F rank adventurers later you got 1 surviving egg and 1 boar the size of an 1950's Cadillac . Yuna's a cheat so not everyone can 1 hit a monster, and be able to store something in a bear bag that nothing will happen to what's inside despite what's going on outside.

 

[NashBerg]

Open tech tree, select domestication of the chicken/flightless bird.

 

[Brutu]

@DaJa-rahrah While that's true, there's an even better solution for bringing that egg. Instead of going your way of guild request, etc etc just to get the egg, why aren't they just bring the SOURCE of the egg, which is the chicken/bird. While the casualty might be the same, they will get a big source of food that could be farmed cheaply. I'm surprised no one in this world doesn't think of that.

Spoiler

Which is why that's what Yuna will do next. Child labor ahoy.

Though to be honest, I'm not surprised no one thought of that considering in this world

Spoiler

People don't know potatoes can be eaten if you remove the poisonous stalk. They only know that if you eat potatoes, you'll get a stomachache. They (majority, at least) don't even know they can eat motherfucking CHEESE.

 

[PotatoZero]

@Brutu, well, to be fair if I remember correctly in our world

Spoiler

people only began eating cheese after they were forced to do so due to lack of any other food

 

[DaJa-rahrah]

@Brutu I figure animal domestication is difficult in this world and capturing birds that fly is more work than worth it. Especially when feral animals have to deal with legit monsters. Think of a rabbit sleeping in a herd of lions. That rabbit has to be one crazy mofo for the lions to not eat it. So people may think the risk/reward is too high/low. Then with Fina not knowing a bird that doesn't fly it might not be common knowledge of its existence. So only someone with cheat abilities can break the current common knowledge on something we take for granted as chickens and eggs.

I mean hell it took a few centuries for people to eat tomatoes as the common knowledge was bright colored plants=poison so tomatoes=poison. Well it's more detailed but that's the short of it.

Spoiler

I've caught up on the novel so yeah child labor ahead maybe 4-5 more chapters. Though with eggs as rare as they are the question becomes is it bad if the child labor of a company makes said company a economic powerhouse to the point that orphan children now have similar economic influence of nobles?

 

[saito197]

@Brutu Actually

Spoiler

those in the dairy town knew how to make and eat cheese

, but think of it as durian in our world, some think durians are really good while other people won't even consider it edible.

 

[FlamingSquirrel]

@DaJa-rahrah But any kind of egg would do, right? Any animal/being that laid eggs could be used as a substitute, maybe?

 

[timesen]

second loli get. Yuna at the beginning of her great loli harem adventure

 

[DaJa-rahrah]

@FlamingSquirrel maybe but then it comes down to effort/reward there could be an animal that is easy to get a hold of like a sparrow but lays tiny eggs that require 20 sparrows a month to make a single omelet or something like an ostrich that lays giant eggs but doesn't produce them at a high rate.

It really comes down to laziness as it's a simple "Well I've lived life without eggs this long I can keep doing without it just fine" x(a community) and no one bothers to do anything about it. Yuna changes that mindset just by doing what she does. i.e. ice cubes in a drink=chilled drinks have just been developed, even though ice magic exists and is used for preserving butchered animal meat.

Spoiler

It'll all be solved anyways gotta have Yuna do something other than sleep in her bear house and solving the chicken or the egg problem gets her outside and moving.

 

[Lyanhyrt]

Finally Noa!

 

[xironi]

Her true calling, entertainment. Make money just doing birthday parties