Kurai Anoko to Shitai koto - Vol. 4 Ch. 46 - Birds of a feather?

[Galder]

I don’t mind the slow burn in this one. But that spoiler made me click my heels

i mean, we know she's at least interested in him and that she's aware too since she stopped herself from offering to cook for him in one of the recent chapters.

 

[Jackist]

Yes, you're completely right. Because you're clearly smarter and more well informed than centuries of psychological research that led to the term extrovert (one who is more sociable and easily outgoing) and introvert (one who is shy and more soft-spoken). Obviously, general shyness is an unmedicated anxiety disorder. Way to go.

Shyness is literally in the DSM under social anxiety/phobia. It unironically is an undiagnosed social anxiety disorder which can be treated.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK519712/table/ch3.t12/

But the thing that really grinds my gears is, I’ve been in multiple group therapies where many people have try to get over shyness. And when people just say,” it’s just introversion”, all you’re doing is saying “well that’s just the way you’re always gonna be” or suck to be you

 

[Dingo777]

Shyness is literally in the DSM under social anxiety/phobia. It unironically is an undiagnosed social anxiety disorder which can be treated.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK519712/table/ch3.t12/

But the thing that really grinds my gears is, I’ve been in multiple group therapies where many people have try to get over shyness. And when people just say,” it’s just introversion”, all you’re doing is saying “well that’s just the way you’re always gonna be” or suck to be you

The issue is the conflation of “shyness” with “introversion”. There are genuinely people who don’t crave social interaction compared to those that do. That’s the difference between introversion and extroversion.

That’s not to mention how many “extroverted” people actually have their own forms of anxiety making them crave social reinforcement or have undiagnosed manic disorders. And yet no one ever seems to view that as a character flaw that needs fixing

 

[Jackist]

The issue is the conflation of “shyness” with “introversion”. There are genuinely people who don’t crave social interaction compared to those that do. That’s the difference between introversion and extroversion.

That’s not to mention how many “extroverted” people actually have their own forms of anxiety making them crave social reinforcement or have undiagnosed manic disorders. And yet no one ever seems to view that as a character flaw that needs fixing

And you proved my point.

You start off with “I don’t have a flaw that needs fixing” and worked back from there. Not wanting social interaction is a “flaw”. Something justified by based on anxiety and avoidance behaviours, which only get worse and reinforces the more you do them.

Please read the DSM link I gave. Please. Don’t rely on Tik Tok please. Avoidance is a real thing. It’s not just being Introverted

 

[rarstyak]

While often confused with socially extroverted and socially introverted, the Meyer Briggs is made for determining the primary modes in which people interpret the world: with social values or internal understanding and by branching out from big ideas or by condensing concepts into conclusions.

When it comes to socially extroverted/introverted people, there's a lot of judgement towards one end of the scale or the other(while ignoring the idea of ambiverts)... When social anxiety disorders simple manifest in many different ways.


Socially successful extroverts who have plenty of connections, and are fine with company but are codependent and require it to function, floundering without.

Socially inept extroverts who desire constant company but have no connections and lie to themselves about being okay with being alone.

Socially successful introverts who are constantly burnt way out over their obligations, which they may dispise.

Socially inept introverts who may be self assured with their own view of their levels of interaction, but fail completely at participating in society to their own unaware detriment.


That's just based on 2 basic axis. All that and more exists. Literally anything at an extreme is a disorder if it impedes your ability to function. People do talk about these issues. Just not as often as they get conflated together or simplified into unusability.

It's complicated, and while annoying, simplifying concepts down to stereotypes is the level at which most dialogue happens. Lots of cases are miscategorized and dismissed due to the lack of vocabulary. But at least there is dialogue. It may take time and effort, but expanding the caricatures of manga characters to real life situations is progress.

 

[Dingo777]

And you proved my point.

You start off with “I don’t have a flaw that needs fixing” and worked back from there. Not wanting social interaction is a “flaw”. Something justified by based on anxiety and avoidance behaviours, which only get worse and reinforces the more you do them.

Please read the DSM link I gave. Please. Don’t rely on Tik Tok please. Avoidance is a real thing. It’s not just being Introverted

You clearly didn’t read what I wrote. Some people without anxiety just prefer to do solo activities such as reading or listening to music. There’s avoidance and then there’s genuinely enjoying time and hobbies by yourself. Like I said you, among many others. Are conflating “Introversion” with “Shyness”. Introverts can be completely fine in social situations, but they don’t need the constant social validation to feel complete or happy.

Are you really claiming that EVERYONE who doesn’t want to constantly engage with people has some undiagnosed anxiety?

 

[Frye]

They DO make hentai.
https://ikarimanatu.fanbox.cc/posts?page=1

Holy guacamole! Many thanks stranger