Kuromaku Ikka ni Tensei Shita kedo Gensaku Mushishite Dokuritsu Suru - Vol. 1 Ch. 1 - Avoiding Ruin and Gaining One's Independence

[JustSomeGuyOnHisPhone]

Oh ho! Very solid chapter 1 with a very good art style. The only criticism or things I'm thinking of so far is:

A) how would Yuri, as the final boss or npc in the game, actually function with their appraisal skill? Because as the player we would use them as UI and such for playing the game, but how would an npc functionally use it as an ability (unless this is just gonna end up as a barely explained plot device which probably is)

B) who else was it that died with Yuri? His sister? Or even a lover?!
(random tin foil theories) Is the original protagonist actually female and maybe the lover of Yuri but then Yuri betrayed the protagonist for behind the scenes/not explained in the game reason? Is that why MC said "the game became a 'gloomy game' after Yuri's death"? I wanna know the mystery (but also do t want spoilers to ruin the fun) 😭

C) isn't anyone who personally knowa Yuri going to be sus as hell about him now that MC has taken over?

 

[Jenst]

Let's just tell horrible people not to do something again and they wont! Works every time! not..

 

[Chizan]

Yeah? Enlighten me.
Every single Villain/ess isekai, I have read, has the setting of "the villan gets killed at the end, I must be good and do good to prevent that fate". Every single one.

I'm not talking about revenge stories, but even there it's pretty rare for a mc to actually be a villain instead of just getting revenge on a few people. Even in Redo Healer the MC actually recruits a lot of his enemies instead of killing them.
Out of my head, I only know of The executed sage where the MC acts as a villain. It's a rare case.

If you want villain-type mc who's ruthless and doesn't shy away from committing atrocities to further his ends, Lion Coeur Senki/The Saga of Lioncourt should fit. Too ruthless for me, I dropped it quite early.. Both the manga and novel are published in English.

 

[Tavero]

If you want villain-type mc who's ruthless and doesn't shy away from committing atrocities to further his ends, Lion Coeur Senki/The Saga of Lioncourt should fit. Too ruthless for me, I dropped it quite early.. Both the manga and novel are published in English.

Thanks for the recommendation, I've started reading it however I can't get into it. While I like the gritty setting in lion cour senki and the ruthlessness of the characters, it's almost as if it's just violent and brutal for the sake of being violent and brutal. The writing leaves a lot to be desired and is all over the place.

Edit: finished speed reading it just to see if it gets better or turns out as I expected. It doesn't get better. All characters act like complete morons.

 

[Khulmach]

So far so good, we did not go the Generic "buy a slave girl" route.

 

[BuzzBacksArmstrong]

'Dear brother, could you take this along with you as a protective charm...?'
Ah, the precious imouto is about to give her brother some cute gift to remember her by...
Actually hands him a pair of particularly vicious-looking instruments of murder that look like something straight out of a slasher movie.
Well, I guess it's more practical than a bracelet, but sheesh.

It’s extra funny that he actually took them after complaining about it

 

[miyukiii]

man I searched for the artist if they did some doujinshi and I couldn't see one 😭

 

[Kaarme]

"I was shocked to learn that I could use this ability. A skill that wasn't even in the original game?!"

Why are most isekai authors so stupid? It's like they are trying to write poorly on purpose. The MC took over one of the most hated villains in the game, a dangerous traitor at that, so why wouldn't he have dangerous skills, huh? If the author had any skill in writing, or if these isekai trash actually enjoyed from the presence of editors, the MC would have instead noted that it wasn't explicitly stated in the game dialogue that Yuri had such a skill, but in retrospect it would have easily explained things that happened in the game plot, such as Yuki being able to smoothly fool the hero party and cause trouble behind the scenes. Later the chapter says Yuri lives by hiding his abilities, which is a whole lot easier with the appraisal skill: he can select his opponents carefully by roughly knowing how tough they are.

But nah... The skill wasn't in the game, yet now it just magically is his for the sake of the author being able to write a half-assed story much easier. Isekai banzai!

 

[Tavero]

Why are most isekai authors so stupid?

If they were intelligent they wouldnt have to rely on writing isekai.
Isekai stories have by far the most amount of bad writing, bad world building and bad character developement of any genre.
The authors are only able to be successful because the genre is popular.
This wouldn't do in any other genre.

 

[MrTurtleMan]

When I don't have a maid with cat ears

Was interesting until it got to the slave part, that's where I noped out simply because it's so damned overused that I'm tired of it

Bro actually did the meme

He didn't actually get a slave

"Yeah, Imma read this just to wait the biweekly stuff."
"Slave market"
Nah, fuck this shit

Lmao, a second one

Though getting that beastgirl is going to backfire for sure, as her death is supposed to make the Hero question about the social situation. But now that wouldn't happen, the Hero won't get character development he was supposed to get.

Nah, if the society is actually that bad then there will be other opportunities for the hero to get that life lesson. For example she was sold as a slave, clearly the person who bought her was looking for a slave so they will just buy someone else and treat the person badly instead.

 

[Morose]

Nah, if the society is actually that bad then there will be other opportunities for the MC to get that life lesson. For example she was sold as a slave, clearly the person who bought her was looking for a slave so they will just buy someone else and treat the person badly instead.

Just to correct, "MC" is different from the "Hero", and its the Hero who is related to Phi and goes through extensional crisis after seeing her dead body.

As for the plot, it is based on a game scenario, so certain characters play more important role to the plot even dead, so removing them can cause a bug.

I mean, yeah slavery is common and "Hero" could find someone else, but that doesn't mean he would have similar thoughts of the situation.
Like say, the reason Phi plays a role in changing Hero's perspective, could attribute to the fact that someone similar to her was connected to him in the past (though not mentioned in the game), and seeing Phi's dead body causes him to be reminded of her and question about the situation.
But if you replace Phi and put someone else, then the impact might not be the same.

 

[MrTurtleMan]

Just to correct, "MC" is different from the "Hero", and its the Hero who is related to Phi and goes through extensional crisis after seeing her dead body.

You're right, my bad

As for the plot, it is based on a game scenario, so certain characters play more important role to the plot even dead, so removing them can cause a bug.

I disagree with you, you are wrong. This isn't .hack where he is transported into the game world, he is simply in a different universe that would have followed the games story but as he is there and has knowledge of what will happen and has a different personality to the original person he can change the scenario. Unless it becomes RTA Sousha wa Game Sekai kara Kaerenai this won't be causing bugs and as they didn't meet her until after she died there is no reason for another person to not have the same impact.

 

[apple1234]

Another trash isekai

 

[FgoSegul]

I could beat a dead horse by going yuck slavery but i already did that recently in a different story so instead im gonna comment on the art. It’s very nice. More detailed than most isekai stories but also not as abrasive as some art styles are (looking at you evil dragon isekai)

 

[kamentierr]

The sister's death is a bit messed up. Like there's even naked dogeza, implying that she's toyed with before killed.

 

[Ip0x0410]

Thanks for the recommendation, I've started reading it however I can't get into it. While I like the gritty setting in lion cour senki and the ruthlessness of the characters, it's almost as if it's just violent and brutal for the sake of being violent and brutal. The writing leaves a lot to be desired and is all over the place.

Edit: finished speed reading it just to see if it gets better or turns out as I expected. It doesn't get better. All characters act like complete morons.

If you are fine with non-comic villian stories, I HIGHLY suggest Reverend Insanity. MC is the type to casually kill off thousands in order to advance and his schemes are super fun to read