Kuzu Rouninsei, Jinsei ga Tsurai no de Yoru no Onee-san wo Yondemita - Vol. 5 Ch. 54 - The Scumbag's Marriage Interview

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Because you have ONE exemple of a gay king that was too stupid to have kid for his entire family and country to not fall appart dont mean they where all.
Most king that where gay had kid because they had to, not because they where in love, It's exactly the same reason why all straight king had kid even when they had not attraction for their wife. These people had entire frigging country to manage, of one dont want to have kid he's simply an egoistic idiot.

Most people where not "forced into traumatissing marriages". Marriage today in the west are worst that they ever where in the past. People dont stay married more than 10 year and break up, actualy most people dont even marry anymore.(No in the past people didn't stay together because they where forced and couldn't get divorced. Many country gave the possibility to divorce.)



That's literaly basic biology... Animals only exist for their species to thrive. If someone is too weak minded to accept this it's their issue. You realy should stop with the random bullshit too. Seriously... Someone tell you a scientific fact and you answer this? "but it's bad because there i read one time that one person was told he should die because he could not have kid"
How fragile can you be? At least get some real argument and not some childish emotional things.


If people where realy intelligent most western country would not have a birth rate lower than 2.0... That's literaly the proof people are too stupid to understang something as basic as. "if you dont have enouth kid your culture will disapear"

But yeah you're right people have other desire than to have kid... They have the desire to fuck like wild animals without having kid... Thats totaly what an evolved species that didn't live by their animals instinct would do...
The pron industry is one of the most thriving industry in the world. And people never had as many different sexual partner in their life as people have today. Also the earliest age people have sex would not lower regulary too, nor would the age at witch people start to watch pron.

Reality literaly prove that people only think about sex, so you're just taking you belief for truth. People are not smart enouth to keep their animals instinct in check. That's something you would know if you had any knowledge about science. All studies about humant comporment show that human are not as evolved as people like you try to believe.




Rich people dont have kid. The people who have the lowest birth rate are the richest people. The people who have the hightest birth rate are the poorest.
That's something all people working on demographic everywhere around the world know and say. It's one the first information you learn when you look at different birth rate and why the difference are.



And then you dare to say this...
"you have to give proof when you say something but i dont because i'm smarter than you. lol"
It's always funny to read people like you because you are the living proof of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Right, concerns that you openly discuss arguments that support eugenics is just me being fragile. I'm sure the fact that scientists have to consult ethic boards to get their research approved is just another case of "childish emotions" that hinder true progress. I didn't mention all of this just because some random guy once said "you don't deserve to live", I mentioned it because your chain of arguments can lead directly to "life unworthy of life" - a term used by the NSDAP for victims of their so called euthanasia program that killed somewhere between 200000 to 300000 people in only a few years. I was simply trying to make you aware of what implications your argument has if you take it to it's logical conclusion. Which would very much be killing off people that can't or won't reproduce or even making rape legal as long as it produces kids.

Funny that you mention divorces. At least in western countries divorces were indeed possible - if you had the time, money and connections that is. The Catholic church views marriage as one of it's sacraments and the only way to remarry after a divorce is to annul your previous one. Which again isn't exactly a straight forward process and makes any children you might have had bastards. Not to mention that there were only a couple of very specific reasons that you could cite. Another point is that at least for women their entire income was dependent on the husband so getting a divorce without the option to remarry was something that had to be considered carefully. There is a reason why the common people in England developed a tradition of ritualistically selling their wives to other guys, luckily that was done with the wive's consent. It was mainly because actually getting a divorce was a huge pain in the ass and nobody wanted to petition to the parliament just because they couldn't get along with their spouse
 
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And by the way, because you're obviously too ignorant to understand, I haven't given evidence BECAUSE I'M NOT CLAIMING ANYTHING OR MAKING ASSERTIONS. THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE DOING. YOU'RE MAKING CLAIMS AND ASSERTIONS WITH NO EVIDENCE.
You sure?
What have I said that would even require evidence that isn't just a general statement?
Here, this is you saying "i dont need argument cose i'm smarter than everyone else".
...literally cannot even believe what I'm reading. You are absolutely delusional. I'd go as far as to say half your "logic" borderline psychotic.
This is a claim, but no argument nor proof.
But I believe the primary one is the financial cost that's associated with bringing a child into this world and raising them in a good environment.
This is a claim, that's false. and no argument since everything prove that poor people have more kid than rich people.
Forget the Dunning-Kruger effect, which already applies to you. It is abundantly clear that your ignorance knows no bounds.
Look another claim where you say someone else is wrong because you're too emotional to talk like a normal adult.
I pity you. How sad must your life be that your ONLY reason to live as a human being is to have a child and nothing more.
This is a claim, and i dont see any argument nor proof, just some childish personal attack like in every single of your post.
But we're civilized, intelligent humans not animals living in the wild. We have more than a singular desire to "perpetuate our species." Because if we didn't what makes us any different than wild animals. Do you not get that?
This is yet another claim backed by only you belief as it's proved that human cant control their instinct, science already proved that the claim people make about their "free will" is just a belief and human are just reacting to the world only based on their experiance, like very single other animals.
Actualy you just need to look at western people fucking like rabbit, and watching porn all year long to understand how wrong this claim is.
You're also doing the same: misconstruing what people have said and arguing in bad faith, insulting your opposition, and disrespecting a group of people.
This one is a bonus for the fun with all the insult and childish things you keep saying.
You don't think saying "LGB whatevers" is not slightly disrespectful? Why not LGBT community? Or just LGBT? We all know what you would have meant.
This is just an emotional take that twist the word of someone, not based on anything that was said previously.
I'm sure there are a lot of families that share your experience, but not literally ALL families.
This is you using "subjunctive" with nothing backing your claim saying this person was wrong.

And dont "but you dont give any proof either", when i came into this discution you where already making baseless claim acting as if your belief was the truth. Everyone know that people like you are ignorant and will refute reality even when it's proven.
Just look at how you dodged all the counter argument given to you.
 
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Right, concerns that you openly discuss arguments that support eugenics is just me being fragile.
Are you sure you understand what eugenism realy is?
Cose this has nothing to do with anything anyone other than you said... You're the only one talking about how you think some people want other to disapear.

I'm sure the fact that scientists have to consult ethic boards to get their research approved is just another case of "childish emotions" that hinder true progress.
This has even less conection to the previous discution... The only reason why this is a thing is to prevent people going full 3rd Reich.
This has thing to do with anything anyone say. How did you think this was linked to the fact that human are just animals and are bound to the law of nature like every other living being?

It's always impressive to seem people like you that act randomly, and that try to make themself believe that human are not just another animal species.


How about you stop acting all emotional and start acting normaly? Without twisting the word everyone write.

Yeah i know, it's going to be hard because if you cant twist what other say you would have nothing to say...
 
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You sure?

Here, this is you saying "i dont need argument cose i'm smarter than everyone else".

Bro just be quiet. I literally did not say "i dont need argument cose i'm smarter than everyone else," so good job misquoting me like that. You continue to prove that you don't know how to argue properly with someone (not to mention all your rampant grammar and spelling issues).

This is a claim, but no argument nor proof.

You are delusional. If you can't see the flaws in your own logic, you are hopeless.

This is a claim, that's false. and no argument since everything prove that poor people have more kid than rich people.

Look at this.

According to this the cost to raise a SINGLE child is about $300,000. Impoverished people have children irresponsibility knowing they cannot properly provide for their offspring. What it states here corroborate this, where it also states how expensive having kids can be (see? I actually have evidence for the things I say. Even though it should be obvious).

And if you want even MORE evidence for my claim that having children is financially costly well here and here.

Look another claim where you say someone else is wrong because you're too emotional to talk like a normal adult.

This is a claim, and i dont see any argument nor proof, just some childish personal attack like in every single of your post.

This is yet another claim backed by only you belief as it's proved that human cant control their instinct,
Have you ever heard of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs? Probably not given your sheer ignorance. Here's more evidence coming your way since you seem to think I don't have any: https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html

If you look at the hierarchy you'll see that yes reproduction is the most basic of our human needs instinctually. BUT it isn't the ONLY thing that drives us. There are four other levels to the hierarchy that humans aim to achieve. Not to mention humans are capable of self reflection and self awareness (oh do I need evidence for something THIS obvious too? Well here you go). And that wouldn't be possible if humans were purely just slaves to their instincts like YOU claim (and with no evidence).

science already proved that the claim people make about their "free will" is just a belief and human are just reacting to the world only based on their experiance, like very single other animals.
Actualy you just need to look at western people fucking like rabbit, and watching porn all year long to understand how wrong this claim is.

Science? What science? Present evidence of this claim. Just saying "because science said so" is not evidence fool.

And so what? A lot of people fuck and/or watch porn. How does that refute my claim that "we're civilized, intelligent humans not animals living in the wild. We have more than a singular desire to "perpetuate our species." Are you saying people who fuck and/or watch porn are not intelligent or civilized? That they don't desire more from their lives? Maslow's Hierarchy supports my claim.

This is just an emotional take that twist the word of someone, not based on anything that was said previously.

What are you talking about? YOU said, and I quote, "LGB whatevers." I'm not twisting your words or misquoting you like you've done with other commenters. Or are you going to deny that you said "LGB whatevers"? And at the time mentioning this was relevant.

This is you using "subjunctive" with nothing backing your claim saying this person was wrong.

And dont "but you dont give any proof either", when i came into this discution you where already making baseless claim acting as if your belief was the truth. Everyone know that people like you are ignorant and will refute reality even when it's proven.
Just look at how you dodged all the counter argument given to you.
...oh my god. DO I NEED EVIDENCE TO SAY "NOT EVERY PERSON ON THE PLANET IS A MURDERER?" IT'S OBVIOUS!

It should be a given that not ALL families are like yours or have identical circumstances. My family isn't like yours, my friend's family isn't like yours. Therefore you're entire claim is false because there exists at least one exception to the rule.

All your "counter-arguments" are made with no presented evidence. Truth be told, they're not even real arguments because there's nothing supporting them.

So now I turn to you: where is your hard evidence? Or will you continue to be "ignorant and will refute reality even when it's proven." And trust me when I say "hard evidence" that means you can give me a reputable source that supports your claims. Because if you can't then you have proven beyond a doubt that you are ignorant and uneducated, all in an attempt to push your biased, uninformed opinions as undeniable fact.
 
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Are you sure you understand what eugenism realy is?
Cose this has nothing to do with anything anyone other than you said... You're the only one talking about how you think some people want other to disapear.


This has even less conection to the previous discution... The only reason why this is a thing is to prevent people going full 3rd Reich.
This has thing to do with anything anyone say. How did you think this was linked to the fact that human are just animals and are bound to the law of nature like every other living being?

It's always impressive to seem people like you that act randomly, and that try to make themself believe that human are not just another animal species.


How about you stop acting all emotional and start acting normaly? Without twisting the word everyone write.

Yeah i know, it's going to be hard because if you cant twist what other say you would have nothing to say...
You really don't understand what I'm trying to say, do you? You use your claim that "reproduction is the only purpose in life" to explain social interactions between humans but at the same time hide behind "it's just a scientific fact" when someone tries to make you aware of the ethical and moral implications of this assumption. Science aims to explain natural phenomena, not dictate how people should interact with each other. Charles Darwin's evolution theory is wildly accepted but do you know what happened when people tried to use it in a societal context? Social Darwinism and eugenics. People being forcibly sterilized in many western countries and the 3rd Reich obviously taking it to the extreme. They took the "scientific fact" of survival of the fittest and decided that the logical conclusion was that the least fit don't deserve to survive. Which has nothing to do with the original theory and is instead just an ideology loosely based on said theory.

While you don't openly claim that people should be killed simply because they aren't able to reproduce you still make the same base mistake. You try to use an unrelated "scientific fact" as a societal norm and completely ignore the ethic and moral implications because "that's just how nature is". The Nazis used "scientific facts" as a basis and at that point in time a lot of people the world over assumed that some races were inferior "because that's just how nature is". Which should illustrate why taking random biological tidbits and using them unfiltered in a societal setting is a bad idea. And unfortunately your assumption of "reproduction is the only purpose in life" has very much the potential to be used to declare people as inferior beings on the basis that they failed the only purpose they had. And looking at history teaches us that things like that can lead to actual real life consequences far sooner than we're probably all comfortable thinking about
 
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In Japan your parents can force you to marry someone? That seems like a terrible place to live if that's true.
 
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Her parents are scumbags too! The apple doesn't fall far from the tree after all!
 
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her parents are wrong. period. nothing justifies the decisions they make for her. this is probably one of the reasons her sister has already moved out.
gonna necro this cause it pops up from time to time and its utterly stupid. they bankroll her life. and shes a useless scumbag. if you cant understand the parents' perspective you are a very entitled person.
 

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