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I mean you can just ignore half of what I said in that comment that's cool.
Maybe the guy doesn't really hate trans people or enjoys a good story? All this points out is that he is open minded enough to read this manga. Considering this a yikes just shines light to the real problem, its that most trans people are fragile.
Now, I'm not one to jump to conclusions but here are some quotes from that guy:
Gender identity my ass, go to a psychiatrist and get the help you need. Just because this bs has been normalized doesn't mean its somehow ok or acceptable. People on twitter saying its fine doesn't make it not a mental illness.
Being trans is straight up a defect. Give me proper, legitimate proof that its something natural and good for people, and that transitioning is anything but merely satiating a delusion.
I didn't say hate because it's an cop out people use, "I don't
hate trans people, I just think they are mentally ill. I'm just concerned about them." But, if you think this guy is in any way open minded about this subject, you're just wrong. They clearly are quite transphobic, and I can't say if they hate trans people entirely, but they certainly are hateful towards trans people, as calling trans people mentally ill is being hateful towards them. You can't just ignore all the context to what I was saying and make up some bs about this guy.
Also, calling being trans a defect and saying that transitioning is merely satiating a delusion is worthy of a yikes on it's own, but there is also the previous context to add on to it too. And if you don't think what they said was a yikes (which it is clear you don't since you agree with them), then gonna be honest that's a bit of a yikes as well. And I don't think that calling their views worthy of a yikes indicates that I'm fragile, I'm just reacting to someone saying that I am a defect and that me transitioning is just trying to satiate a delusion, and reacting to that with a yikes is hardly the most fragile way to react.
How come Gigi despite knowing that she couldn't have kids before transitioning she still feels embarrassing because she cannot go through womanhood and feel like a woman? obvs this is a delusion.
I wasn't aware being embarrassed about the topic of pregnancy was the same as believing she has XX chromosomes. In fact if you watch that video like 3 minutes in or something she states a bunch of times in a row that she is well aware that she can't get pregnant and doesn't have the ability to ever do so. I have no idea why you think this is delusion. Pregnancy seems like a reasonable thing to get embarrassed about anyways.
Mind you this is a delusion that transitioning amplifies if the trans person is being lovebombed and this constant barrage of confirmation that they are a woman and that they are a man and not the other. This doesn't even bring up the suicide rate either.
Trans women being supported and accepted does not make them believe that they have XX chromosomes or that they can get pregnant. Also, if you want to bring up the suicide rate you can, I can too, and I can guarantee that you very much do not know the suicide rate, are woefully misinterpreting the data on that stuff, and that you haven't actually read any of the studies that that data comes from. But sure, bring it up if you want.
Because it has been shown many many times (this is a link you can click) by now that transitioning is the
only way that we know of to alleviate gender dysphoria, and it improves depression and anxiety in trans people too. Conversion therapy, aka trying to tell trans people that they are not the gender that they say they are, has only been shown to cause harm, just as it did with gay people.
It only helps because it is just reaffirming what they believe. If I want to identify as a man and get a robo dick of course it would help because it is reaffirming that I am a man.
You can do that if you would like, but for someone who is struggling with dysphoria it can quite literally be a life saver. It's not just "reaffirming what they believe", I can tell you first hand that it's not. Medically transitioning is making me hate my body less. Socially transitioning is making me feel more comfortable around others and making it so that I don't feel like I need to constantly hide away from people. And I can also tell you that the aggression and hostile reaction my dad had to me coming out makes me feel deeply uncomfortable in my own home and makes me feel like I'm suffocating just being around him. No part of transitioning is really ever about reaffirmation, its about being able to feel comfortable with oneself. Again, first hand experience.
literally just a thing because Dr. Money took advantage of David and forced him to be a girl by making him do sexual acts with his brother. Ofc David believed he was a girl (constant reaffirming throughout his teens) until his parents told him he was supposed to be a boy which led to him feeling suicidal. Yall should really look into this botched study. vile stuff. I don't know how nobody took the manipulation Dr. Money did to make David Reimer feel like a girl.
Aight I'm not gonna defend a pedophile. To be honest the first time I heard about this guy was due to someone arguing a similar point, and as it stands, no one needs to support this guy or what he did in order to consider gender a thing. There are many other people who have studied gender, sex, and the like, and many other people who have created and expanded upon theories and notions regarding this stuff. Dr. Money is a guy who was in a position of power and abused kids with it, and I hate every part of that. I also hate that he is even associated with this stuff as it gives people something to point to in order to try and say that gender doesn't exist. Along with that, what Dr. Money did to David is probably more proof that trans people exist, considering he still identified as a man after all that stuff was done to him, and he felt terrible about all of it. The fact that transitioning so greatly helps trans people, and hurts people who are forced to transition when they aren't trans, just helps to show that trans people exist.
Also, you didn't even bother to read all of David's wikipedia article. He was already deeply suicidal at age 13, and said he would take his own life if he had to see Dr. Money again. At that point his parent's told him about the surgery and he completely disassociated from Dr. Money. Already at that point he had felt different and isolated from the girls at school. He never really did ever feel like a girl, despite the treatments. So no, he didn't only become suicidal after being told about the surgery, and no reaffirming by Dr. Money and assumedly his parents up until he was 14 did not make him feel like a girl or make him feel better. Dr. Money's original hypothesis, and what he reported as a success, was the idea that gender is learned and not innate, and David proved this to be completely wrong. Dr. Money was also trying to do this in order to get people to use reassignment surgery as a solution to botched infant gentile surgeries like circumcision, as well as for intersex conditions, all of which is quite terrible.
So got any more insights of wisdom to bring upon us? It really sounds like you definitely know what you are talking about
