Mairimashita! Iruma-kun - Vol. 15 Ch. 125 - The Young King

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I think it's probably the pre-evolutionary instinct to mate and have children twisted to a degree of unreturn because of desperation. I'd rather be spited then be prayed to though. The fact that other females actually use these guys to their own advantage actually kinda disturbs me.
 
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@Echonic I am more worried when they try to justify this with references to feminism or equality. When a male asshole manipulates naive and innocent girls, he is called a toxic predator. But when a woman does the same with men or even other women, this is idealized as a type of “strong woman”. And the strangest thing is, this question is supported by many men themselves, for which it is enough to open any ecchi about strong female characters. I'm not trying to teach someone about the “right and wrong” femininity or masculinity, it just surprises me that many people sincerely believe that this is what a gender-equal and female-friendly society should look like.
 
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Well I can't really blame people for thinking that way, seeing as their usually primarily raised by their mothers while the fathers go and earn money. And little boys hear all that crap that gets told to them about chivalry and 'honor' by their parents. I think the most disturbing thing I found out is that females are valued much more in a society than men and are usually treated much better too. I noticed this when I got favored more than my brother who is exactly the same age as me, and my parents also keep telling him to protect me like his life didn't matter or something. A strong women is treated like an idol while a strong man is treated as disposable. I fucking hate feminism with passion because it's used as female supremacy nowadays. Most women can even ruin a mans career just by calling him a rapist. Hell the fact that Equalism which is equality for all races and sexes isn't all that well known shows me that all these people who advocate for so called 'lesser races' or sexes are just using it to increase their social and political power and don't actually give a shit about about anyone else. You'd think that society born from world peace would have all of us working together to achieve a new age of technology and yet here we are with men who who are still sent on the battlefield to die on wars rich people started to get even more money, men spending their whole savings account on a twitch thot. With children who can't look away from their phones and believe everything they see on social media, and mothers who can't even get of facebook. It's no wonder this aint no gender equal society when they can't even tell right from wrong.
 
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@Echonic Yeah, I also just recently noticed that despite all the talk about feminism and gender equality, society continues to tell us that men are consumables, while women are “special” people. Society has ceased to think of women as weak and helpless girls in pink dresses, but now they just tell us that all men are abusive pigs, so we are obligated to serve them anyway. That is, the ideology has changed by 180%, while the orders have only become more hard. It's like apartheid South Africa trying to call itself a country of racial diversity.
I’m straight male, so I’m lying if I say that my attitude to women and men is 100% equivalent, but I’ve been raised all my life in the belief that people should receive equal treatment regardless of their biological or cultural differences, therefore when this is defended by progressive argument, it makes me unusually confusing.
 
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I'm still kinda surprised their hasn't been a meninist? rising with all the discrimination these days, when society calls men worthless i'd think that their would at least be a large group protesting against that sort of sentiment. But I heard most males are usually raised to hold their feelings to be tough. Which is pretty fucking wrong by the way, everyone should have to right to speak out or cry about shit that feels wrong. I don't think men and women will ever be truly equal though, seeing as you know completely different biology and stuffs, I treat dudes and dudettes (Mostly with dudes cuz their more honest) mostly the same, but It would feel really awkward and embarrassing to talk about periods with guys and stuff, not only because well it's a girl thing but also because guys don't really talk about their bodies with other guys as much as other girls would who are completely open with that sort of stuff with each other, usually. So obviously men and women will never be completely equal and fair to each other. And discrimination will always exist (unless there was only one person on earth) But I was atleast expecting them to at least try a bit, without the whole pointing fingers at eachother to decide with race is at fault for stuff.

But hey if gender diversity that's what gives us these mangas i'll stomach it, I mean if the guy and girl just acted like bros without being embarrassed by each others bodies it would be kinda boring.
 
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@Echonic Well, after some manga, I myself sometimes feel like a conservative bastard from the 19th century, lol. I just don’t understand why talking about equality and diversity is impossible without a witch hunt and finding out who should be to blame. For example, one of my coworker was a bisexual LGBTQ activist. No one has ever had problems with her bisexual identity, but in last two years she decided to become a radical feminist and simply quarreled with most male and female friends. Likewise, I quarreled with many people when I had a “big war” with SJW. Personally, I believe that gender identity is as diverse as human life, so it’s stupid to start blood bath because of gender roles and relationships.

As for the Mennists ... Well, in my country there are right-wing communities of "real men" that are essentially just the masculine version of radical feminists. For example, they believe that every woman, including their mothers, sisters or daughters, are their principal enemies as men, you know. I’m not sure that at least a third of them really had some problems with women, but when they see Russian (for example, one of our feminists said that nothing can justify hatred of women, but at the same time, you can allegedly hate all men if one offended you) or Western pop feminism, they just get a good loophole to say "see? Women hate men and manipulate us". Few take these two camps seriously, but as you yourself understand, outside of this, the gender issue simply doesn't exist. For example, last year the word "transformer" became a meme, because our president doesn't know what trans people are called correctly, lol.
 
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Lol, after reading manga I feel like premarital sex is a thing that shouldn't exist. I feel kinda sad people don't read manga too and realize the joy in not having to give a shit about gender politics and what not. Japanese have always clung to their conservative ways and because of that we get to read cute ass romances, fluff, action and ecchi without having to worry about the hundreds of genders feminists made up, or the metoo movement which turned out to be extremely fucked up because of all the innocent men getting sent to jail just because of a false-rape accusations.

Hell the sort of shit we usually read is what feminists would get offended about to the point of no return because the guys are too strong or cool and theirs barely any people who are trans or bisexual, most mangas have harems and male protagonists, just imagine how an average twitter feminist would react to these manga, they'd literally try to get manga to shut down for good (to no avail because Japan doesn't give a shit). Japans kinda our last line of defense for freedom because cancel culture scares everyone in europe and america into making shit that will appeal to only the most over-sensitive. And i'm just gonna say, but the average ordinary person can't even take a joke nowadays.

As for the Mennists ... Well, in my country there are right-wing communities of "real men" that are essentially just the masculine version of radical feminists. For example, they believe that every woman, including their mothers, sisters or daughters, are their principal enemies as men,

Sorry had to laugh at that. Seems kinda interesting, never heard much about these type of people. In a certain way it's kinda stupid too hate another gender and constantly pay attention to them because If they really hated women and stuff they could also just ignore them and not think about them. Because the moment you're actually spending time and effort hating another gender you've a;ready lost, hell to really spite them the 'real men' could also just show off their better people by actually helping others.

In a certain way it's all kinda laughable how serious people take stupid social issues, I can just imagine my ancestors who actually had no time to even comprehend any of these so called 'problems' laughing in their graves because gender roles had to be as they were in that era otherwise society would've collapsed. I guess in this day and age people are too free and have no idea what to do but complain all day (heh, kinda like us) and make up shit just to start drama and feel important.
 
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@Echonic Their hatred of women is so cheesy and camp that they only become the source of somewhere around 80% of gachimuchi jokes (yes, there are many amateur bodybuilders among them) on the Russian Internet, lol. Especially when it turned out that one of their leaders asked folks to send him dickpics as an authentication proofs in social networks.

Well, at the moment, many feminist-related scandals in Japan were either a short-term info-occasion, or somehow warmed up via the Western Internet. For example, when WSJ's editor-in-chief said that a magazine would only hire a woman if she “understands the boy’s heart” or when one activist didn’t like the collaboration between the Red Cross and the big-breasted kohai manga. I'm not talking about cases where Takatou Rui troll people because of their aversion to the scene of anal sex with legal loli or the image of an MtF girl as futanari, as this seemed like a deliberate provocation. But it bothers me how Western publications are increasingly trying to turn BL and yuri authors into political activists. Once upon a time, the BL community proved to gays that their work is not claimed and should not be perceived as a realistic representation of gay males, but now some BL events are held under the slogan "Yaoi increases tolerance for gay males", lol.

I am not against works that abuse grotesque and black humor, or vice versa, qualitatively deconstruct toxic stereotypes. Nobody forces me to read / watch it and I appreciate this diversity. But for some reason, modern Western media are sure that Western politics is an absolute truth and all content should accept this as a social commentary. For example, for some reason they are convinced that the Shield Hero cannot use the fake rape charge if it somehow interferes with the idealization of MeToo in the USA. This is already beginning to resemble America of the 50s (I especially like how Pleasantville makes fun of it), when any content was as sterile and "ideologically correct." Ironically, it was thanks to the war against this that modern American culture appeared.
 
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Jesus, what a shame. But I guess extremists are extremists, If these people take something to seriously and get lost in their emotions it's usually an instant loss. Well I guess meninists are another lost cause just like feminists.

And well obviously saying you'd only hire a women (for whatever reason) would go under fire if it went public. Hell it's not like Japan is exactly a gender friendly country either with all those sexual harassment cases in companies that never seem to get solved... Though it's not like it's better for guys seeing as a lot of them die from overwork and stress. Men are almost three times as likely to die from suicide than women in Japan (Though in almost every country men have the highest suicide percentage rate), and if that doesn't say something I don't know what will. I've never really liked the bl community (them trying to aggressively pour nonexistant yaoi ships from anime down my throat made me utterly despise the fandom) but hearing them get even worse is pretty shit, If I couldn't really stand yuri or yaoi fans before then their I doubt I will now more than ever If they become even more toxic then they already were.

The people who belong to Modern western media and believe in western politics are like a group of firecrackers, as one they are completely useless and spark for a bit before dying out but if they were to be surrounded by others they set off a huge ship full of triggered firecrackers and become an autistic explosion ready to be thrown on any unsuspecting individual. This is seen when twitter whales posts a lie and it goes in circulation with many people believing in it just because and ruin whatever event or unsuspecting individual or event it was about. I remember when feminists were angry about shield hero because of the false rape accusation and said that a women would never lie about something like that. I think I kinda wanted to either vomit in disgust or look at them in pity for their complete lack of understanding of the world and anyone in it. These people grow up so safe and protected that literally have no piece of self consciousness whatsoever and believe whatever lies their fellow dumbasses believe in.

While I believe people can have opinions pointing out hands and shouting death threats at the decided on 'criminal' (victim) is the most disturbing thing cancel culture does because most people will believe it because it's popular, "That anime character having big tit's and good looks, preposterous thats sexist and derogatory to women who are promoting a 'positive' body image" and boom! you have thousands of insecure women and teen girls jumping like piranhas to shut down whatever they think needs to be shut down. And later on every guy will believe it too because their wives, sisters and mothers presented the case in a very convincing way.

It's like the importance of evidence and being able to stand up for yourself has completely vanished the last couple of years with people not even knowing the problem but still believing their completely and utterly right. Like do we need to go into a next world war and start promoting censorship again? because that at least worked in stopping these people from existing.
 
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They’re called MRAs. “meninist” is hilarious tho. Either way, it’s not an equal and opposite counterpoint to feminism. If you think feminism is about female supremacy, consider reading some modern feminist writing.

Anyway, Iruma is a nice boy and I can’t believe this arc is still going. Holy shit.
 

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