Majutsu Gakuin wo Shuseki de Sotsugyoushita Ore ga Boukensha wo Hajimeru no wa sonna ni okashii darouka - Vol. 7 Ch. 33

[vorador]

Satsuki airheadedness is always precious.

RIP Rotty.

 

[wisemanro]

Justice for Rotty.

 

[xanketsu]

Yatto deguchi ni tsuita.

You can use phrase "end of the tunnel" for deguchi there for poetic nuance - it's often used figuratively; its twofold meaning should apply to Satsuki's situation there.

But a more liberal localization might usually go "I can see the exit." (Omitting the "finally" and "arriving/ reaching" part of the original sentence).

 

[Ecchan101]

I saw her smile again but now I know the reasons. It's hard when you are just skimming through raws

 

[Kazekid]

Rotty nooooo

 

[Kaarme]

My understanding is that the spell forms the material, but the clothes aren't made out of magic. They're made of real cloth. As such, they wouldn't be susceptible to dispelling. But that also implies that there are ways of making magic cloth that can be dispelled, since otherwise it wouldn't have been mentioned.

Isn't that quite a can of worms? It basically means it's very easy to create permanent matter out of nothing but mana. That would certainly explain why gold would be cheap since magicians can simply create more if they run out. Even if they don't know how anymore, there would likely still be mountains of gold present from the old times when they did know. The same for all other metals and materials. In fact it's extremely difficult to believe they couldn't create whatever they wanted by now, since all that's needed would be to reverse engineer and alter the thread/cloth creation magic to create other things.

But yeah, if the complete dispel was a costly spell, then there would be no point in using it against clothes, other than for trolling and bullying purposes. I was imagining a situation where it's a cheap spell mana consumption wise.

 

[REMasher]

Just casually revealing all modern cloth is magically conjured purely so she could have closure with her master leaving her is so goddamn funny.

 

[manga_follow_75743857]

Thanks Hjek098.
Glenn's admitting defeat after seeing Satsuki's slaying Mother Rockworm means Satsuki with buff matches the monster princess, Eileen.

Spoiler: Satsuki's master

 

[ciera]

Thank you for the scanlation

edit: kek cyril

 

[HDMI1]

Considering that Satsuki's whole thing during this arc was learning her master's final technique, and that Will helped her realize that her master didn't abandon her, her "reaching the end of the path" means she finally realizes that she'd graduted from being a disciple into being a master herself.

 

[Werebearguy]

Cecilia's excessively thick lipstick is so ugly, jeez. Cute girl ruined by makeup. Satsuki's smile on the other hand? Precious.

 

[Gunfort]

That smile ♥️

Anyway this is the end of "spot the cyril" arc

 

[Soneca]

Thank you very much for the scanlation, this series is lovely. Considering Glenn and Eileen, being the menaces they are, are actually only considered B rank, I wonder what kind of 'monster/monster people' above that would be and act like.

Lil typo on page 23, "[...] more correct to say I " " left behind." -> "[...] more correct to say I was left behind." You also could just take away the "I" and keep it as "left behind", it'll work as the correction of 'instead being thrown away, being left behind', it may look weird in isolation but in the flow of a conversation I think it works.

 

[flannan]

Just casually revealing all modern cloth is magically conjured purely so she could have closure with her master leaving her is so goddamn funny.

In the book, it was revealed early, probably when MC first saw Satsuki, and noticed she's wearing expensive real cloth.

Well, he said "dozens of gold coins", and didn't specify the quality of it. A dozen gold coins is about 24 days, so several dozen would be several months worth of living costs.

The big question is, is "dozens of gold coins" price for 1 bolt of cloth, or for 1 article of clothing? A bolt of cloth is a lot of cloth that makes a lot of articles of clothing.
About the prices, I ended up using GURPS Low-Tech Companion 3 for reference, and that's what I got:
Sackcloth (which even peasants would be unwilling to wear) would take 4-6 weaver-days to make a 15lbs bolt of cloth (5 ft wide and 30 feel long). Taking prices from chapter 4.5 of this manga (1 gold coin per workday), that's 4-6 gold coins per bolt of clothes, assuming the weaver counts as "manual laborer". That's just for weaving - first, a thread has to be made, with low tech standard being 4 spinners per weaver. Assuming it's done by underpaid housewives who get only half as much per day, that would multiply cost by 3, getting us 12-18 gold coins per bolt.
The sort of clothes commoners would wear, would take twice as much to weave. So, 2-3 dozen gold coins per bolt. It's also twice as light.
The sort of clothes children of head mages would wear, could easily be even more expensive than that, with 3 times the labor costs (3-4.5 dozen gold coins), and extra costs for the dying and other decorations.

Things get a little less expensive if we assume they have spinning wheels, which reduce labor costs to 1 spinner per weaver. But "dozens of gold coins for a bolt of cloth" metric still remains reasonable.

P.S. And I totally forgot the price of raising sheep or fibrous plants in a world full of monsters.

 

[feha]

Is It Odd That I Became an Adventurer Even If I Graduated From the Witchcraft Institute?

Yup

Justice for Rotty.

Ppl who go on a vengeance spree for their kids/parents who died in war they sent them go join, are the worst (I am looking at you, christian volunteer girl from "tanya of evil"). If it was precious to you, don't use it as a weapon or consumable~

But nevertheless, justice for Rotty!!!

 

[SatouPendragonlvl313]

He was a good worm...

 

[AnotherDuck]

Isn't that quite a can of worms? It basically means it's very easy to create permanent matter out of nothing but mana.

It depends on whether the spell requires any components to cast. They did say "mana thread", but doesn't specify what that exactly is. It could be something purely out of mana, or it could be thread infused with mana, or something else. At the very least it'd be a two-step spell, the creation of the thread, and the forming of it.

As for other matter, anything that can be easily created just can't be used as a currency. So following that it's logical to assume they can't create high-value metals (since then they wouldn't be high-value) or many other materials.

It's still a can of worms to create materials, since it usually has a lot more applicability than the author realises, so I definitely agree on that part.

The big question is, is "dozens of gold coins" price for 1 bolt of cloth, or for 1 article of clothing? A bolt of cloth is a lot of cloth that makes a lot of articles of clothing.

He did specify obtaining "a piece of clothing" required spending dozens of coins. Unless the translation is off. I would take that to mean a shirt or a tunic or something like that.

About the prices, I ended up using GURPS Low-Tech Companion 3 for reference, and that's what I got:
[...]
But "dozens of gold coins for a bolt of cloth" metric still remains reasonable.

While it's interesting to try to derive costs like that, we do know roughly what medieval clothes were worth. It's closer to the income of a few days to a week or two. I've also heard a conversion to modern American wages at $500 - $1500, which I'm not too sure about since wages, spending costs, and overall use of money didn't work in the same way back then.

It does depend highly on quality, since luxury clothes could be worth 10-20 times the amount. Fine linen would be something like twice that of more regular quality. We're also talking about new prices here, not used or patched clothes.

All in all, clothes were much more expensive back then, but they weren't nearly as expensive as they're making it out to be. It doesn't make sense to have something like a basic necessity like clothes cost so much you can barely afford it unless you save up copious amounts of money.

 

[Tds-PdV]

It depends on whether the spell requires any components to cast. They did say "mana thread", but doesn't specify what that exactly is. It could be something purely out of mana, or it could be thread infused with mana, or something else. At the very least it'd be a two-step spell, the creation of the thread, and the forming of it.

As for other matter, anything that can be easily created just can't be used as a currency. So following that it's logical to assume they can't create high-value metals (since then they wouldn't be high-value) or many other materials.

It's still a can of worms to create materials, since it usually has a lot more applicability than the author realises, so I definitely agree on that part.


He did specify obtaining "a piece of clothing" required spending dozens of coins. Unless the translation is off. I would take that to mean a shirt or a tunic or something like that.


While it's interesting to try to derive costs like that, we do know roughly what medieval clothes were worth. It's closer to the income of a few days to a week or two. I've also heard a conversion to modern American wages at $500 - $1500, which I'm not too sure about since wages, spending costs, and overall use of money didn't work in the same way back then.

It does depend highly on quality, since luxury clothes could be worth 10-20 times the amount. Fine linen would be something like twice that of more regular quality. We're also talking about new prices here, not used or patched clothes.

All in all, clothes were much more expensive back then, but they weren't nearly as expensive as they're making it out to be. It doesn't make sense to have something like a basic necessity like clothes cost so much you can barely afford it unless you save up copious amounts of money.

I don’t think we can directly translate their economics to ours. We don’t know how much, say laborers are paid in this series, or what the taxes are. Also that 2 gold, Will and co. lives in a cheap inn and these are living costs, and not costs for gears, supplies, medications, etc., accounting all costs they may not make that much more compared to regular citizens (currently that is, because they are low ranked and Will’s suggested rate might reflect that)
While one might assume villagers’ living cost is lower, we don’t know how much lower or how much more/less they make.

Plus, we don’t know what their mechanical and material technology is like. They may not even have looms. Hand-woven clothing material may need to come from monsters or cannot be farmed. Any of these factors will drive up the price.

Finally, before “mass-production”, what typically happens is basic necessities are produced in-house by the family. Meaning, demand for new ready-made clothing for the common folk wouldn’t be high, and the supply would be equally low. So perhaps things that were in the market was more like Satsuki’s, they are expensive luxury products, and these are what end up recorded in their history. Again, difficult to say, but it would explain Will’s story and why he would recall the history when noticing Satsuki’s.

 

[AnotherDuck]

I don’t think we can directly translate their economics to ours.

That's literally the meaning of what I said.

We don’t know how much

Which is why I concluded it's unreasonable for basic necessities to cost that much. The only thing we know is that clothes used to cost a buttload of money for a commoner, which doesn't make sense since commoners also use clothes almost all the time.

Also that 2 gold, Will and co. lives in a cheap inn and these are living costs, and not costs for gears, supplies, medications, etc., accounting all costs they may not make that much more compared to regular citizens (currently that is, because they are low ranked and Will’s suggested rate might reflect that)

I don't agree with that assumption. To me it seems to cut things out for the purpose of it being better for your argument without any justification why. They say they can live off of 180 coins for a year. That has to include all expenses they will face over the course of a year, since otherwise they can't live off of that sum of money.

Finally, before “mass-production”, what typically happens is basic necessities are produced in-house by the family.

A house is a basic necessity (strictly speaking "shelter"). Most people didn't build their own houses. So it's not true for all basic necessities. Tailoring is a high-effort skill, and one that's rarely used outside simple repairs. It's one of those crafts that's more often than not outsourced to specialists who can do it faster and for less cost. Sure, some families would have someone who could make clothes. But not all, and enough would not have it to create a reasonably economy for ready-made clothes.

Overall, there are more plot holes, inconsistencies, and general unreasonableness to take it as written than to take it as a mistake by the author.

 

[RanmaChaos]

Thanks for the chapter