Maou-sama no Machizukuri! ~Saikyou no Dungeon wa Kindai Toshi~ - Vol. 3 Ch. 13 - Oath of the Beginning Apple

[MangaDex]

 

[icarushector]

I'm drawing a blank, where is he getting the money/resources again? It can't ALL be creation magic for raw materials can it? not at two gold for mithril when four buys low end steel swords outside the place

 

[HYBRID_BEING]

Well, someone's been wondering why no one noticed them yet, the clock seems to answer that somewhat.

> Skeleton bread. Full of calcium.
Muh sides.

Also, fantasy world inhabitants knowing what word "onsen" means? Come on!

@icarushector
He's got a mine for resources, but i agree, it does feel like he's pulling stuff out of thin air. Also everything they create seem too perfect.
Well, i suppose dungeons are supposed to have plenty of good stuff for adventurers to come for them, so maybe that's the cause.

 

[Red225]

Ah, that explains it! Magic camouflage!

 

[FloatyBee]

Why is it always a fucking hot spring though

 

[HYBRID_BEING]

@FloatyBee
Probably cause SUPERIOR NIPPON ONSEN it's easily converted into a communal bathing place.

 

[Kaarme]

@FloatyBee Why not? I can understand it very well. Many old cultures have things they wouldn't want to live without, mine included. I'm not annoyed by that. I'm only annoyed by cheap nationalism (like the "glorious Nippon katana banzai").

 

[AlmondMagnum]

@FloatyBee
If they have natural hot springs, then they know what onsen are (though they wouldn't call them that, of course). I guess - since it's translated to English from Japanese from whatever fantasy isekai language they speak - it should have been "thermal bath" or something.

 

[HYBRID_BEING]

@Kaarme
Oh yeah, totally forgot that it's totally an isekai. I mean author skipped Truck-kun and all.
Surprised he hasn't planted a rice paddy yet, then.

 

[Kayriel]

@Kaarme

You're fine with one expression of cultural loyalty, but not another? The onsen is no different than importance on the katana in this setup. It'd be the same for anything else associated with another country in that country's fiction.

It'd make even less sense for Japanese comics made by Japanese, sold to Japanese, with a Japanese main character, to praise things not of Japan over those homegrown expressions. In fact, the only ones I see doing that tend to be extremely chuunibyou, specifically absolute westaboos. The sort who adhere to American gunsmithing and German naming schema. And that's meant to be played as a foil to what's considered normal and acceptable in Japanese society.

What mystifies me is your opinion is not an uncommon one. People are fine with literally anything else Japanese-oriented being praised or uplifted in manga EXCEPT weapons. The moment a katana is featured as an important weapon people start complaining that it's not some sort of historical Western weapon that's never even crossed blades with a katana before, let alone been something a Japanese main character would not have grown up with legends surrounding. I remember another isekai demon king manga where the guy received a magical katana and suddenly people are complaining that it's not a poleaxe or some other specifically Western halberd. I don't quite get it.

Would they have been happier if it was the traditional 'longsword' (arming sword)? That's even more cliche than the katana, it's literally the blade of the fantasy genre. You will see it always and forever if you take any interest in fantasy - it's boring. But other, less common Western weapons, why would they appear?

 

[Kyte]

Any place with volcanic activity has a decent chance of having hot springs and for its inhabitants to discover and use them.

It doesn't even need to have actual hot springs, Romans had thermae, y'know. The various greek people would have their own tricks depending on geography.
Hot baths are appreciated by everyone and communal bathing is the most efficient way to use hot water.

Sure, it's not quite fitting the pseudo-medieval theme most fantasy worlds have, but then again neither do many of their technological and societal trappings. (Which would fit better with either classical or modern civilization)

 

[Paltiel]

@HYBRID_BEING
About their knowing about onsens, there's a super spoily reason for it.

Major spoiler warning. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

Spoiler

The setting is actually on Earth, just far in the future from current times. This tidbit is given later by the Overgod, in the WebNovel, when describing why Lolicell Procell knows so much about modern technology.

 

[CelticMutt]

@Kayriel - "People are fine with literally anything else Japanese-oriented being praised or uplifted in manga EXCEPT weapons."

Hey now, that's completely untrue. People also whine their asses off about "Superior Nippon Food." Despite the fact that Japan has the highest number of high rated restaurants and cuisine outside of France.

 

[Kaarme]

@Kayriel It's nothing that complicated for me. Warm baths have been and are everywhere. The ancient Romans had a highly developed bath culture, for example. Plus wanting to get clean comfortably is nothing strange in general. The katana issue bothers me when the MC just randomly comes upon a katana in a Western looking setting and it's depicted as a superior weapon. If it's not blatantly presented like that, it might not bother me so much. Like if it's just another weapon but kind of alleviates the MC's homesickness, then it should be fine. Another thing is food. I don't actually remember too many cases of Japanese food being presented as superior (since it's subjective anyway, unlike swords), so that's fine, but it's just sometimes annoying how the story goes on and on about how the MC acquires ingredients for Japanese dishes. It actually makes sense to miss the food you are used to, but it's hardly interesting to read about.

As much as I read manga and also watch some anime, I'm not a weeaboo at all, so things that are meant to cheaply please the Japanese audience's sense of nationalism or Western weeaboos look silly in my eyes.

Btw, I have a fully functional carbon steel katana on top of my bookshelf, sitting on a somewhat traditional looking stand I made myself, so it's not like I'd hate katanas, per se.

 

[ShinGetsu]

Manga and Light Novel are still a form of art/storytelling mostly for a japanese audience, so it's not very surprising they appeal to themselves with hurr durr superior katana pretty often.
Same for Onsen. Though bath culture is super widespread as well anyway, it's just the form of japanese inn that is copied in isekai story.

 

[krispy]

these are japanese aimed stuff u guys are reading so everything will appeal to japanese people...duh

 

[captain_crunch]

hmm did it really take him 1 year? it said "anniversary." if i remember, in a previous chapter the god said they had a newbie shield time limit thing

 

[alu]

Although there was a warning, no Marco was damaged in this chapter.

 

[VenerableImmortal]

What a bad taste in font choices and typesetting. 😩

 

[Liquidxlax]

@captain_crunch that isn't what they meant, they meant that this will be the day they consider the birth of the city and will be the anniversary day. if it were a year Marcho would have passed