Maoyuu Maou Yuusha - "Kono Watashi no Mono Tonare, Yuusha yo" "Kotowaru!" - Vol. 1 Ch. 1 - Become Mine, Hero!

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Something that I hope they properly address is the very concept of the "Hero" in these sorts of stories, seeing as they did a pretty good job of breaking it all down in very realistic economics. Something that irks me with these sorts of stories is classifying one character as the designated hero in a very literal way, and they did kind of start with that. But the thing about heroes that these stories seem to gloss over is that heroes are situational and usually cultural, the hero of one culture is the villain in another. So, in a sense, the Demon Lord/King/Queen is the hero of the so-called "evil" forces. That said, it looks like this story is sort of addressing that as well, but we'll still have to see just how far it's taken
 
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The whole economy system of the world seems to be fucked. Demographic booms have never happened during wars, but after. Think of it this way: mr soldier goes to war, he marries the girl he loves before leaving, then he hurries off; the years pass, mr soldier survives and comes back. What is the one thing mr soldier is going to do with the wife he hasn't seen in years? Yeah, so that's where the word Boomer comes from. Even if the Southern Kingdoms had the other kingdoms share some serious medical and agricultural knowledge with them, the population would still be barely increasing, because that's what mobilizing your armed forces does. I think they are mobilizing because the hero mentioned that the geography isn't very suitable for agriculture, and that most of the supplies come from the North.
Speaking of which, what the fuck is up with that market shit? Feudal societies would just buy the weapons and supplies from their producers and merchants, then send them to the boys and gals at the front. Why bother with sending money, then the supplies? Why aren't they contributing troops and shit? Yeah, supplies are all well and good, but who's gonna use them? Overall, the author seems to have gotten lost themselves in the details. Hopefully all will make sense later.
 
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Speaking of which, what the fuck is up with that market shit? Feudal societies would just buy the weapons and supplies from their producers and merchants, then send them to the boys and gals at the front. Why bother with sending money, then the supplies? Why aren't they contributing troops and shit? Yeah, supplies are all well and good, but who's gonna use them? Overall, the author seems to have gotten lost themselves in the details. Hopefully all will make sense later.

Entire paragraph is easily answered with 'prices mechanism'. Central sent money because they don't exactly know what front line needs, so front line can distribute their resources accordingly to their needs. Same as why they did not send troops, because, as it mentioned, southern has poorer economic therefore labors are cheaper.
 
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I don't know how this story will develop, but I simply want to state that I love how the mangaka tries to adress these problems more realistically and explain why simply "killing the bad guy" is not the end goal, but just one step on the road to a better future.
 
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...oh god dammit

i can't help seeing ShindoL's Dragon Quest doujins whenever the hero is onscreen
 
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The art style is really different from the anime, guess I gotta get used to it.

And what is that reference to in page 30? From what it sounds, seems pretty cool


@KriegGuardsman I'm guessing most of the deaths are also from the Southern Kingdom, seeing as how they're portrayed as somewhat poor and need to rely on the wartime funds.

@kalmyk501 Wrong how?
 
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These economic stories can be fun, but they're almost always deeply flawed in one way or another if applied to real life. The TL;DR is: "Don't get your economics from a manga."

It's usually due to people thinking of economic systems as opposites in the wrong way. For example: capitalism vs socialism/communism (socialism is the system that eventually brings in "true communism").

Or mixing up economic systems that they don't know well (otherwise they probably wouldn't mix them the way they do).

The worst error I see is people observing the flaws of one system without seeing the flaws of the other. There's a reason most Canadians say they support socialism but don't actually want it as 70% are against tax increases (and in socialism, you get taxed 100% in one way or another—Canada is not truly socialist... yet).

The way these two actually oppose is in who owns the "means of production" (and this includes private property).

Capitalism says the individual is allowed to own their own land and use their money and property the way they want. They need to trade in order to get what they want, and by doing so, will help someone else get what they want. If a factory owner doesn't pay enough money, they don't get workers, so they can't fulfill orders, so it's in their interest to pay a competitive wage.

[Side-note: Unions are not socialist if they are owned and operated by private individuals. They are only socialist if they are owned and operated by the government. So private unions are capitalist.]

Communism/Socialism says "the people" (the ones that support the utopian ideal, not all humans count as people in these views) own everything via the state. Well, by "state" they mean the authoritarian regime (socialism) that's supposed to bring in "true communism" later down the road. (But no one knows how: humans are just supposed to magically stop being greedy one day because somehow it's only the environment that makes people bad and forcing everyone into the same impoverished state over long enough time fixes that. Somehow.)
 
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ah yes time to talk about real life problems that we have to solve but this manga is solving in thier world
 
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And what is that reference to in page 30? From what it sounds, seems pretty cool

That would be a reference to the very first Dragon Quest game, where the Big Bad offers to let you rule alongside him, and specifically promises "dominion over half this world!"

Taking the offer leads to a game over, naturally.
 

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