Medalist - Ch. 50 - Proof of Earnestness

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Actually, I just checked and it might just be possible that Japan might have less than 3 slots. I thought Iruka won Juniors Worlds last year but it the JGP she actually won. If she did place high in Junior Worlds then the only way Japan wouldn't have 3 slots is if the other skaters totally bombed... which would mean they aren't consistent in the first place.

As for the other skilled Junior skaters... where were they in the JGP then? They can have a Silver and Bronze at best (as any better they would've qualified over Inori or the Italian) and their combined score must be lower than the Italian's to lose the tiebreaker. But the Italian's scores can't be that high given that she doesn't have any golds. Meanwhile, Inori's gold was over an American who took gold in another event.
Inori was picked as a designated skater B. That alone means Japan thinks she's in the top 10 Juniors at least. She's the only one among them (aside from Iruka) who managed to win an international tournament this year. Simply put it seems that this batch of Juniors seems to have shit the bed aside from Inori and Iruka. You'll even note that the Designated skater B featured in volume 5 actually aged into senior as Inori entered Juniors, so it seems that this batch of Juniors is sparse.

Your theory is...quite benefit to Inori. You assume that good skaters have gone up to senior already. But as I said before, the author didn't introduce many skaters in Junior field. The 3 girls we saw in volume 5 is 3 famous skaters coming from Chubu block, and Japan has 6 blocks like that. Although all blocks can't have designated skaters, but there's no one say there's only 2 designated skaters in Junior field in volume 5.

Did you see how tough it is in Kinki block last year? (where we have Suzu and Ema in).Ema scored 80 but she got 7th place, but if she was in Chubu block, she could get 2nd or 3rd place and enter Novice All Japan. My assumption is: the level of skaters in seven events in grand prix series are different. In easier event, you can win by scoring 100, in harder event, you have to score 130 to win the game. And finally, both of them secure the same 15 points. You can't say this skater is better than that skater because she places higher than others in different events. We have to check their actual score to judge.

This is how it works. And this is why All Japan exists. To gather up all Japanese skaters for judging. You should have high placement in All Japan to be chosen to go to international competitions. And I 100% sure that many Junior skaters place higher than Inori in this year.

Ah, I have to add that there's no problem for me if Inori is sent to Junior Worlds, only if the author can have a reasonable explanation ☺️

 

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Your theory is...quite benefit to Inori. You assume that good skaters have gone up to senior already. But as I said before, the author didn't introduce many skaters in Junior field. The 3 girls we saw in volume 5 is 3 famous skaters coming from Chubu block, and Japan has 6 blocks like that. Although all blocks can't have designated skaters, but there's no one say there's only 2 designated skaters in Junior field in volume 5.

The thing with good skaters is that they get results. No one else other than Inori and Iruka got international results this year. Japan sent 7 women into the JGP but only Iruka and Inori got gold.

Did you see how tough it is in Kinki block last year? (where we have Suzu and Ema in).Ema scored 80 but she got 7th place, but if she was in Chubu block, she could get 2nd or 3rd place and enter Novice All Japan. My assumption is: the level of skaters in seven events in grand prix series are different. In easier event, you can win by scoring 100, in harder event, you have to score 130 to win the game. And finally, both of them secure the same 15 points. You can't say this skater is better than that skater because she places higher than others in different events. We have to check their actual score to judge.

But realistically, there's not much room to be better than Inori. Look at the current crop of skaters Japan is sending to Junior Worlds. Only one has a quad and she's by far the best skater of the bunch. Look at Novice A, Inori beat all but one skater who headed into Juniors (and would've beaten them all if she didn't try a jump she's never landed in practice). If they were better than Inori, you'd expect them to secure a slot to the JGP finals.

This is how it works. And this is why All Japan exists. To gather up all Japanese skaters for judging. You should have high placement in All Japan to be chosen to go to international competitions. And I 100% sure that many Junior skaters place higher than Inori in this year.

Ah, I have to add that there's no problem for me if Inori is sent to Junior Worlds, only if the author can have a reasonable explanation ☺️

Sure, they'll probably send the podium of All Japans if they can. But if the podium slots are taken by Novices (i.e Hikaru or Suzu), they can't send those. And it's much harder to justify sending the 4th place or 5th place competitor when they can't even produce any results internationally this year. It really takes very little justification to send Inori, especially as an alternate to replace Iruka.

I also think that's entirely possible the Inori won't be sent anyway. It makes the plot a bit too crowded. If Inori wins the JGP Finals, Junior Worlds will feel like a rehash against the exact same set of girls and using her bad All Japans results to justify her not being picked is entirely reasonable. But this All Japans is literally the only time Inori has ever performed below expectations. To call her inconsistent because of that is a bit silly.

 

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Look at the current crop of skaters Japan is sending to Junior Worlds. Only one has a quad and she's by far the best skater of the bunch. => Execuse me, I'm a little bit misunderstanding here, who you are talking about? The girl has quad in real life figure skating? Inori?

Look at Novice A, Inori beat all but one skater who headed into Juniors (and would've beaten them all if she didn't try a jump she's never landed in practice). If they were better than Inori, you'd expect them to secure a slot to the JGP final.

=>and this too, who is "the one skater headed into Juniors"? Who "would've beaten them all if she didn't try a jump she's never landed in practice"? Who is "she"?

 

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Look at Novice A, Inori beat all but one skater who headed into Juniors (and would've beaten them all if she didn't try a jump she's never landed in practice). If they were better than Inori, you'd expect them to secure a slot to the JGP finals.

Ah I know, in this one you are talking about Inori and her 3A in Japan Novice. But Inori fails her 3Lz at the begining, it's the reason she decided to jump to 3A at the end... By the way, in a competition, we can't say "if". The federation doesn't let you many times for trial and error. If you fails, others will take your place (it's expected that even Inori fails the 3A, she's still on podium. But Ako took 3rd place. This is a clear example for what I say)

One more thing, even Inori has quad, she got 4th place at 1st grand prix event, so quad isn't an absolute weapon, isn't it?