Meguro-san wa Hajimete ja Nai - Vol. 11 Ch. 78

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

You can literally see him feeling bad in the panel after calls him out for it.

Cool, he felt 'bad' after she told him something irrelevant that didn't call out anything.

You never even bother to answer how he is not a good teacher when he helped her get into two schools.

I did actually, in my very first reply to you described in details how he was a dogshit teacher because his teaching led her to 4 years of being a broken sex slave.

Meguro said that she made the choice to act as she did,

And what did she base those choices on? And who was the cause of said choice? Oh yeah, the dude who taught her that retarded nonsense cause he's a terrible teacher.

Once again, you're only selecting parts of the manga to fit your narrative.

You mean the parts that are actually in the manga instead of in your head?

 

[enjoyingmanga]

And the whole reason she is thanking him is for being her first and what he taught her about love and relationship. And no, it's not 'her first sensei', she was in fucking school, she had senseis before that.


Yes, you did, you said 'as all of the things he taught her in their academic and ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP', which is exactly what everyone rightfully understood she was thanking him for, you just mixed in your retarded fanfiction about academics.

You once again, literally can't read. (Also why would she be blushing while saying that if you were right?)

I already explained that what she learned from him wasn't because of what he told her directly but what she extracted from observing his actions meaning he had no direct role in teaching the lessons that I am talking about.

I'm not going to argue about something as clear why they met at the coffee shop, they clearly are there to talk about her getting into college and the results of her exam.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

I'm not illiterate.

You clearly are illiterate, you consistently demonstrated you can't read what is said in the manga or told to you here.

 

[Rafalga]

I'm not illiterate. You're just immature and resort to petty insults because you nothing meaningful to contribute to the conversation.

You are literally making shit up about some fanfiction in your head like your life depends on it (that's why i asked if you are the author lol) against the mountain of evidence suggesting otherwise. There is no contributionn to be had about whatever headcannon you are going on about.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

I already explained

You already explained your fanfic, cool. It's still wrong and not what happened.

I'm not going to argue about something as clear why they met at the coffee shop

It's so clear you're literally the ONLY person who got it wrong, literally no one else is confused as to what she's thanking him for and it's not about academics.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

Cool, he felt 'bad' after she told him something irrelevant that didn't call out anything.


I did actually, in my very first reply to you described in details how he was a dogshit teacher because his teaching led her to 4 years of being a broken sex slave.


And what did she base those choices on? And who was the cause of said choice? Oh yeah, the dude who taught her that retarded nonsense cause he's a terrible teacher.

How is it irrelevant that she is telling him she knows she didn't value her as a lover, that's not irrelevant at all.

It's ridiculous to say someone is a bad teacher if they help you get into two different schools, a bad boyfriend sure, but that's not the same thing, and if you're as intelligent as you're trying to portray yourself as, you should be able to separate the two.

Meguro adopting that view is because she wanted to adopt that view, she could have thought anything she wanted as a result of him breaking up with her, he broke up with her, but her choice of how to respond to it, is entirely a product of her own reasoning.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

You are literally making shit up about some fanfiction in your head like your life depends on it (that's why i asked if you are the author lol) against the mountain of evidence suggesting otherwise. There is no contributionn to be had about whatever headcannon you are going on about.

I didn't make up anything though, everything that I said happened in the manga.
You're just saying things that work to benefit your narrative and misspelling words.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

You clearly are illiterate, you consistently demonstrated you can't read what is said in the manga or told to you here.

I'm not illiterate but you have a poor understanding of Meguro's nuanced character and think that she only does things for a single reason which is not the case at all.

You would even say something as ridiculous as a tutor who helps her get into two schools is a bad teacher and then have the audacity to insult someone else.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

How is it irrelevant that she is telling him she knows she didn't value her as a lover, that's not irrelevant at all.

It is extremely irrelevant because not seeing her as his lover is literally not the problem in what he did and the consequences it had. You have some serious reading comprehension issues or something.

I can't believe I'm arguing with someone who believe a teacher who's teaching results in you get fucked by 100 different people in 4 year (that's a new person every 2 weeks and she seemingly did it with them multiple times) is somehow a good teacher.

you should be able to separate the two.

No, I'm not gonna seperate a teacher from his teachings and the results of them, which was Meguro barely being a person in chapter 1.

Meguro adopting that view is because she wanted to adopt that view

No, it was actually because of sensei's teachings, experiences and LITERALLY HIS DIRECT PARTING WORDS TO HER.

everything that I said happened in the manga.

Except I have the manga right there and Meguro isn't thanking him for his math skills.

I'm not illiterate

You obviously are, it's not even up for debate for a single second. You are illiterate and everyone who talked to you agrees.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

I've said this before but if someone told her to fuck the groomer to make sure she is moved on, she would.

She wouldn't but not for any reason that make sense. It'd just be a bunch of nonsensical mental gymnastics to sound 'deep' and 'realistic' like most of what happened post-graduation.

Most of which would be motivated by the author not being THAT dumb.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

It is extremely irrelevant because not seeing her as his lover is literally not the problem in what he did and the consequences it had. You have some serious reading comprehension issues or something.

I can't believe I'm arguing with someone who believe a teacher who's teaching results in you get fucked by 100 different people in 4 year (that's a new person every 2 weeks and she seemingly did it with them multiple times) is somehow a good teacher.


No, I'm not gonna seperate a teacher from his teachings and the results of them, which was Meguro barely being a person in chapter 1.


No, it was actually because of sensei's teachings, experiences and LITERALLY HIS DIRECT PARTING WORDS TO HER.


Except I have the manga right there and Meguro isn't thanking him for his math skills.

Sensei not viewing Meguro as a lover is obviously the root of the problem, if he viewed her as a lover, and not a student, then he wouldn't have done the things that he did...

That's one of the most important aspects of his character...

All Sensei said was to hangout with people who confess to you, Meguro choosing to do anything, and everything they say was her choice, he never told her to do as much as she did at all - do you understand or know anything about the manga at all?

Like, it's so dumb, to sit here and say she was thanking him for teaching her - what beneficial things did he do for her, besides gete her into schools?

The literal next thing that she does is speak negatively about him as a lover, so why would she be thanking him, in a positive light, for the lessons that he taught about love?

Clearly she views him in a negative light, as a lover, and the things that he "taught" her based on love, is actually what she taught herself about love, based on his actions.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

Sensei not viewing Meguro as a lover is obviously the root of the problem

It's not. It's really really not. Like seriously not even a single character or reader saw THAT as the problem, you live in alternate dimension at this point.

then he wouldn't have done the things that he did...

So if he saw her as his lover and not his student, he wouldn't have fucked her, given her terrible advices, experiences and expectations of what a relationship is despite clearly seeing nothing wrong with how he handle relationships?

All Sensei said was to accept people who ask you out

You mean the thing he clearly showed and told you involved sex and just going along with what they said? So I'm right?

and everything they say was her choice

Choice she made directly due to sensei as directly told and shown in the manga and by several characters, including Meguro herself.

do you understand or know anything about the manga at all?

You clearly don't since you're illiterate. The only thing you seem to know is the weird fanfic in your head that's completely different from what everyone here actually has read.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

It's not. It's really really not. Like seriously not even a single character or reader saw THAT as the problem, you live in alternate dimension at this point.


So if he saw her as his lover and not his student, he wouldn't have fucked her, given her terrible advices, experiences and expectations of what a relationship is despite clearly seeing nothing wrong with how he handle relationships?


You mean the thing he clearly showed and told you involved sex and just going along with what they said? So I'm right?


Choice she made directly due to sensei as directly told and shown in the manga and by several characters, including Meguro herself.


You clearly don't since you're illiterate. The only thing you seem to know is the weird fanfic in your head that's completely different from what everyone here actually has read.

You say that I'm making points based on a fanfiction but you're ignoring the actual text from the manga, how am I supposed to take you seriously?

It's not everyone though, not everyone shares your exact same opinion about everything, and even if everyone was to share an opinion, that in and of itself, does not mean it's right.

The teacher who he tells about Meguro literally says that he's taking advantage of her, and tells him, it's a problem and it's not okay.

If he saw her as a lover, he would have treated her with respect and not given her the bad advice that you say is so, damaging, so yeah, there was nothing illegal about their relationship, the problem was because he did not treat her respectfully and it was damaging - you've talked about it so much, how can you not understand that simple concept...

You're clearly the one who is illiterate because the more you talk, the more you reveal that you did not read the manga.

Sensei only told Meguro to go out with people, holding him responsible for the choices she made after going out with him, and not acknowledging what she did was her own choice, based on her decisions about how she wants to live her life is beyond stupid.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

You say that I'm making points based on a fanfiction

Because you are.

but you're ignoring the actual text from the manga, how am I supposed to take you seriously?

I am not, you're just factually unable to read, claiming shit as nonsensical as 'she is thanking him for and saying she'll always value his math teachings'.

It's not everyone though, not everyone shares your exact same opinion about everything

Yeah, they don't, they just all agree that you're illiterate, which is what matters here.

The teacher who he tells about Meguro literally says that he's taking advantage of her, and tells him, it's a problem and it's not okay.

And jackshit is done about it, there's no consequence and not even a scolding. Also thank you for admitting that the manga does agree what he did was awful and thus Meguro thanking him for it make no fucking sense.

If he saw her as a lover, he would have treated her with respect

Respect was literally not the issue in the slightest.

not given her the bad advice that you say is so

So he gave awful advice on purpose (despite living by them BTW) just because he saw her as his student? That's your cope?

- you've talked about it so much, how can you not understand that simple concept...

I've talked about the manga, not your weird fanfic. I understand very well, you're just wrong and even if you were right it would be unbelievably stupid.

Seriously, even outside you being illiterate, your english skills (and thus comprehension) are clearly subpar and probably the reason you have no idea what you're talking about. You should improve those skills before trying to argue about a manga's plot, that way we'll avoid such nonsensical discussions.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

Because you are.


I am not, you're just factually unable to read, claiming shit as nonsensical as 'she is thanking him for and saying she'll always value his math teachings'.


Yeah, they don't, they just all agree that you're illiterate, which is what matters here.


And jackshit is done about it, there's no consequence and not even a scolding. Also thank you for admitting that the manga does agree what he did was awful and thus Meguro thanking him for it make no fucking sense.


Respect was literally not the issue in the slightest.


So he gave awful advice on purpose (despite living by them BTW) just because he saw her as his student? That's your cope.


I've talked about the manga, not your weird fanfic. I understand very well, you're just wrong and even if you were right it would be unbelievably stupid.

All you can say is fanfic this fanfic that but the only thing that you have revealed is that you have a surface-level understanding of the manga, and that you didn't actually read it, but I get it.

You're upset because I disagreed with you, and it's unfortunate that you don't know anything about the manga to be able to make decent arguments about it.

You keep saying I'm illiterate but you obviously can't read, when did I once, ever, say anything about math teachings?

Everybody does not agree that I'm illiterate but anyone but can see that you're very, very angry.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

Because you are.


I am not, you're just factually unable to read, claiming shit as nonsensical as 'she is thanking him for and saying she'll always value his math teachings'.


Yeah, they don't, they just all agree that you're illiterate, which is what matters here.


And jackshit is done about it, there's no consequence and not even a scolding. Also thank you for admitting that the manga does agree what he did was awful and thus Meguro thanking him for it make no fucking sense.


Respect was literally not the issue in the slightest.


So he gave awful advice on purpose (despite living by them BTW) just because he saw her as his student? That's your cope.


I've talked about the manga, not your weird fanfic. I understand very well, you're just wrong and even if you were right it would be unbelievably stupid.

Seriously, even outside you being illiterate, your english skills (and thus comprehension) are clearly subpar and probably the reason you have no idea what you're talking about. You should improve those skills before trying to argue about a manga's plot, that way we'll avoid such nonsensical discussions.

The funny thing is that you're discussing a fan fiction.

You're ignoring the actual text and you're discussing some weird story that ignores the decisions that Meguro actually made and the words that Sensei actually said, and just saying silly things.

Obviously, if he respected her, he wouldn't have told her to go out with anyone who asks, and then none of the things in the story would have happened, but it's only because he did not respect her as a lover, that he gave her such terrible advice.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

All you can say is fanfic this fanfic that

Yup, all I can do is accurately describe your delusion.

you have a surface-level understanding

AKA I understand the actual manga perfectly and not your irrelevant fanfic.

and it's unfortunate that you don't know anything about the manga to be able to make decent arguments about it.

I understand you were trying to make a witty retort but your indian tech scammer level english skill made your attempt fall flat.

You keep saying I'm illiterate

Because you are.

when did I once, ever, say anything about math teachings?

It's called 'paraphrasing', which you'd know about if you could read.

The funny thing is that you're discussing a fan fiction.

You seem pretty mad for someone finding something funny.

You're ignoring the actual text

I did not.

that ignores the decisions that Meguro actually made

Decisions she made based on and due to sensei's bullshit, like the manga said.

You're not even trying to argue your fanfic anymore, you're just throwing a tantrum and repeating yourself.

 

[enjoyingmanga]

Yup, all I can do is accurately describe your delusion.


AKA I understand the actual manga perfectly and not your irrelevant fanfic.


I understand you were trying to make a witty retort but your indian tech scammer level english skill made your attempt fall flat.


Because you are.


It's called 'paraphrasing', which you'd know about if you could read.


You seem pretty mad for someone finding something funny.


I did not.


Decisions she made based on and due to sensei's bullshit, like the manga said.

You're not even trying to argue your fanfic anymore, you're just throwing a tantrum and repeating yourself.

A paraphrase or rephrase (/ˈpærəˌfreɪz/) is the rendering of the same text in different words without losing the meaning of the text itself.

You cannot change the meaning of what the original message actually means when you say it a different way, and, I never said anything about her thanking him for a specific type of teaching.

You're discussing a fan-fiction, which is your oversimplification of the manga, to fit your petty narrative.

You're calling me illiterate, and you don't even understand the meaning of the word that you are using, that is actual stupidity.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

You cannot change the meaning

Which I didn't. You said she thanked him for his academic teachings, saying Math change nothing to the meaning and just highlight how dumb and illiterate you are.

You're not just illiterate, you're also just plain dumb to not understand the point of rephrasing your argument that way and how that's a paraphrase.

You're discussing a fan-fiction,

Yes, your illiterate fanfic, which I'm comparing to the manga and showing you that you're delusional with.

You're calling me illiterate,

Which you obviously are, as everyone agrees.

It's kinda fitting how the only defending the stupid decisions in this manga is just as dumb and autistic as the characters are.

 

[zalagires]

let's break the plot :

• Meguro is a loose girl, who say yes to any guys who says : "i like you please go out with me"
• But after relationship happen, the guys always dump her cause they can't feel same love vibe from Meguro
• This happen often, and almost 4 year since middle school (with over 100 guys?)
• this rumour make Meguro called bitch, cause she willing to sleep to any guys who like her.
• (Chapter 1) Koga confessed to Meguro. Despite her saying its not her first time, Koga want to became her boyfriends
• at first Meguro thought love is about physical relationship, and want to have sex immedietly,

but Koga refuse and want Meguro to cherish herself more.

• The relationship with Koga , change Meguro personality becomes mature, she found many valuable experience ; from romance, friendship, self loving, etc (entire plot till last arc)
• in last arc its revealed, the reason why meguro became loose girl is because her private Sensei in middle school taught her to have relationship with many guys to understand love.
• epilogue : meguro wants to go to college and break with Koga so she can full concentrate to exam, she pass and later go back date koga in the end.

i understand to ending is quite satisfied for shoujo manga, but is too mild for shounen manga.
Remember :
This manga was originally on Palcy (Kodansha platform for shojo manga), but also is on Magazine Pocket (Kodansha platform for shonen manga.)