MILGRAM: Jikken Kangoku to Kanshu no Shoujo - Vol. 2 Ch. 7 - Decision

[Oeconomist]

But now say I punch a person just because I felt like punching them. They just so happened to have punched a person previously, but that wasn't my concern, just punching them. This makes me equally as bad as them, as I was just punching a person randomly as well.

We weren't told that Gentle stabbed the attacker just because he felt like doing so. The author has rigged discussion.

The real issue is of to what extent an otherwise justified act is unjustified based upon motive.

Not a very stable way to run your society

A social order that is just but unstable would be more desirable than one that is stable but unjust.

Let people go around stabbing others at will, and then instead of investigating the incident, you investigate the victim to figure out if they deserved it because they did something bad... And then investigate the victim's victim, to see if that bad thing was actually just... And then the victim's victim's victim...

Unless you propose to accept homicides of mere passers-by if the intention of the killer is shown to be itself acceptable, you don't escape the possibility of indefinite regression by including motivations in the calculation.

The actual formula — either way — is to presume that the victim were innocent until the evidence shows otherwise.

 

[anifd]

Never expected a manga coming from a song of all media to be this interesting

the song projects follow the same theme except listeners can actually vote for the outcome of the trial and affect the future music videos. the flip on mu and the people who supported her being surprised

 

[Oeconomist]

While this is a good point, the bigger issue is probably the sentence, a real jury and judge would probably understand the extenuating circumstances and definitely not sentence the guy to death, maybe not declare him innocent, but probably give him a lenient sentence

No. You're turning the issue of mitigation on its head.

Responding with deadly force to the initiation of deadly force is not a criminal offense, period.

Dark motives are a social issue, regardless of whether a crime is committed, but only loony totalitarians propose to extend the reach of the law in such cases.

 

[Satsuki-Nada]

I have a feeling everyone in that prison is connected to each other. Kinda like the one in the first novel.

 

[MrJohnSmith420]

What the fuck why

 

[bladahbla]

wait so they only get one trial here??

 

[Usagde]

Well shit, didn't expect him to just die like that, especially since I came from the MVs. I was expecting it to play a similar thing where they're more constricted and whatnot, not just immediately killed