Miyu-chan wa Zutto Tomodachi - Ch. 12 - Romanticism Needed

[Weoooo]

So the reason for her pathological cheating was... that she got rejected once??
I'm out. I've given this more than enough of chance. Not my cup of tea

Did you expect it to make sense? To be a good reason that made you go "yeah, this is totally understandable?" Can you honestly imagine that reason?

The idea of her chasing after everyone she has any attraction to because after saving up all her emotions for one guy who didn't like her back honestly makes way more sense than anything else I can think of. She's just ignoring social norms and acting deviant with a pretty understandable motive: I don't know if people will like me back the way I like them, so I can't just pin my hopes on one person. Like most people who ignore social norms, she doesn't understand why those norms exist and is sure that if nobody ever found out about what she was doing everything would be fine. Why wouldn't it be fine if they knew, though? Didn't think that hard about it.

I knew guys who chased after every girl they thought they had a chance with in high school, whether they were together with someone or 'together' or single or whatever. They left a trail of broken hearts in their wake. They didn't need some sort of sad backstory or deep traumatic event to make them do this. Why would it be any different for a girl, other than our expectations of gender performance?

 

[XicoYe]

It was at this moment he knew, he fucked up

 

[Sholvq]

Miyu's face and demeanor are unique enough that she should start wearing other clothes. She can wear a disguise or just change into something else now and then.

Next chapter.

 

[Sholvq]

So the reason for her pathological cheating was... that she got rejected once??
I'm out. I've given this more than enough of chance. Not my cup of tea

She liked him for 6 years, half of her life at the time. She's also very dumb and immature. Stupid & crazy girls exist and are everywhere.

 

[Lunkli]

Why would her parents go along with this charade though? Why tell everyone she died when she's actually alive just a completely different personality with the same name? Unless she faked her death I guess.

Her parents are saying Miyu died because she did die. Most modern interpretations of DID consider the different personalities / alters distinct individuals, so if one was erased forever, that means they're dead. This is the primary reason why "curing" DID is frowned upon nowadays.

I don't see why New Miyu would be so complex as being the original with DID and having to explain how she survived the fall without physical scarring of some kind.

And I don't personally see this theory as too complex, but I guess that's a matter of opinion. Also, as I mentioned above, the current Miyu would not "the original with DID," she'd be her own person who had recently(ish) become the sole occupant of the body. With real cases of DID, it's considered rude to conflate the different alters.

And I don't think that scarring is something we need to worry about. We currently have next to no knowledge about what exactly happened regarding Miyu's death, so it's totally possible for her to have come out with minimal permanent damage. She could have broken her bones and been bruised, sure, but that's not really going to stay forever, and it's been a few years since then. Plenty of time to heal, I think.

 

[Animepedia]

Thanks for the TL

 

[animan095]

HE HAD A MOM?!?!?!

 

[Hs13h]

Chat, Is miyu rizz?

 

[ITSigno]

Holy shit these panels must be a pain, props to you guys and thanks for the TL

We're pretty sure Hideki is a sadist trying to torture our CLRD.

 

[sniper4959]

Her parents are saying Miyu died because she did die. Most modern interpretations of DID consider the different personalities / alters distinct individuals, so if one was erased forever, that means they're dead. This is the primary reason why "curing" DID is frowned upon nowadays.

Alright. I can understand the parents calling her dead in that scenario.

And I don't personally see this theory as too complex, but I guess that's a matter of opinion. Also, as I mentioned above, the current Miyu would not "the original with DID," she'd be her own person who had recently(ish) become the sole occupant of the body. With real cases of DID, it's considered rude to conflate the different alters.

And I don't think that scarring is something we need to worry about. We currently have next to no knowledge about what exactly happened regarding Miyu's death, so it's totally possible for her to have come out with minimal permanent damage. She could have broken her bones and been bruised, sure, but that's not really going to stay forever, and it's been a few years since then. Plenty of time to heal, I think.

The author would have to explain to Yuushin, primarily, and the audience what DID is exactly. Then explain how she managed to survive the fall and recover physically in a year. It is stated in chapter 1 that it is 1 year from the festival during which she was "killed".

On top of that, he has to explain the fact that the police found her the next day and then decided to declare her dead from a accident when she was still alive. The police aren't going to care about DID when they find a body, just whether the person is breathing or not when they find them. There's a lot of moving parts and almost conspiracy level involvement of police. (Ch. 6)

My brain can only makes this work one way and that's if the real Miyu murdered someone that was physically similar and placed her ID and clothes on them. Mental break from that and now she's trying to a solve a murder she committed.

 

[Wanderer00]

Well, i guess that's the Koharu problem solved...temporarily at least, Yuushin's still gotta properly reject her eventually.

And oooooh boy, his mom has finally come home

I can only imagine the shock of seeing a person you know should be six feet under walking around looking the same as years ago...that's some really creepy supernatural shit.

Well, this will be....interesting. Unlike her son she will NOT put up with "generic" Miyu's antics and see through her in 5 seconds.

 

[TheWisestofWolfies]

Wait, is the tattered girl outside the house when 2 adults ate fighting (?) The real miyu? Is that a flashback?

No, that's generic!Miyu. real!Miyu was extremely kind and caring to her own detriment, and is what Yuu-kun was imitating at the start of the series (Trying to be kind and caring like real!Miyu was)

 

[TestAddress]

Spoiler: Wild suspect theory

What if it was the mom that did it

Well we need more clues. We cannot pull mom's ass as though it is hentai.

 

[TheWisestofWolfies]

i know this manga is mostly about the relationship between yuushin and miyu, but the whole investigation thingy is taken too lightly. like she immediately believes yuushin's shallow "alibi" and now does the same with koharu. i sure hope she just turns out to have faked her death and is the real miyu all along. cause that would explain this half-assed "investigation"

We were following Yuu's perspective from the start, and his genuine ignorance of Miyu's death automatically absolves him. He didn't know Real!Miyu was dead until his mom told him, which is damning evidence as to his innocence. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to cross him off the list. Koharu is clearly wrapped up neck deep in her own bullshit, and she likewise clearly isn't aware of Real!Miyu's death.
Generic!Miyu plainly stated a couple chapters ago that the reason she's dressing like Real!Miyu is to draw a reaction from Real!Miyu's killer. Cause, lets be real, I don't care how much of a super evil genius you are, if you saw the person you absolutely murdered (you know for a fact they're dead) suddenly confront you, you're not gonna play it off. The shock of the matter will be plainly visible on your face as a dead give away.

 

[alto129]

Mum going to think her son got possessed by ghost of the childhood friend.

Also, oh god, please don't make Koharu a recurring character for too much, people are going to be so noisy over pointless stuff

 

[Galder]

We were following Yuu's perspective from the start, and his genuine ignorance of Miyu's death automatically absolves him. He didn't know Real!Miyu was dead until his mom told him, which is damning evidence as to his innocence. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to cross him off the list. Koharu is clearly wrapped up neck deep in her own bullshit, and she likewise clearly isn't aware of Real!Miyu's death.
Generic!Miyu plainly stated a couple chapters ago that the reason she's dressing like Real!Miyu is to draw a reaction from Real!Miyu's killer. Cause, lets be real, I don't care how much of a super evil genius you are, if you saw the person you absolutely murdered (you know for a fact they're dead) suddenly confront you, you're not gonna play it off. The shock of the matter will be plainly visible on your face as a dead give away.

first off, my complaint was obviously not about the READERS knowing that he's innocent lmao
it's just half-assed from a story standpoint. don't put in an investigation sub-plot when there is none.

and if you push someone from a multi-story building and see them fall, you KNOW they're pancake decorating the sidewalk. there'd be no reason to shit your pants about a ghost walking around unless you're a grade schooler or younger. and these characters are supposed to be HIGH SCHOOLERS lol

so the killer's only realistic reaction would be suspicion/caution as to WHY someone dresses as miyu and that she's possibly on to him/her. meaning it serves as a warning to the killer to stay away from her.

 

[LokiAsengott]

Wait, is the tattered girl outside the house when 2 adults ate fighting (?) The real miyu? Is that a flashback?

I think that's why the fake Miyu was drawn to the real Miyu. I suspect the fake's life wasn't good, and something happened between her and the real one, which is why she felt love or some dependency on her. Hence, she is now so dead set on finding her killer.

 

[Elrufi]

OH MY GOD IT'S A MUM

 

[Lunkli]

The author would have to explain to Yuushin, primarily, and the audience what DID is exactly. Then explain how she managed to survive the fall and recover physically in a year. It is stated in chapter 1 that it is 1 year from the festival during which she was "killed".

On top of that, he has to explain the fact that the police found her the next day and then decided to declare her dead from a accident when she was still alive. The police aren't going to care about DID when they find a body, just whether the person is breathing or not when they find them. There's a lot of moving parts and almost conspiracy level involvement of police. (Ch. 6)

Mystery stories usually have to explain things, yes.

But, anyways, even if they don't know the actual name, many people have still heard of DID as "Multiple Personality Disorder," so it's not too difficult to explain. (How long did it take you to understand after reading my comment?) Also, I don't believe we've seen an official police statement that she died? We only know / believe she did because that's what we've heard from New Miyu and original Miyu's parents.

And as for the fall, as I stated above, we still have no idea of the actual circumstances of the "accident." It's totally possible that there was something to break her fall enough to prevent her death and falling isn't really going to give you permanent scars in the first place. Even if she broke some of her bones, they would almost certainly be totally healed in a year. Two to three months is usually enough. Yuushin even broke a bone of his own on literally that same day, and it's pretty obviously totally healed.

And regardless, even if it were that complicated, there's pretty much no other way to explain New Miyu looking identical to and having the exact same name as the original Miyu without resorting to either the supernatural, preternatural, or something similar. “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth," and all that. If you have some other idea of how this could be, then I would be very interested in hearing about it (or reading about it, I suppose.) Theorizing is what makes mystery stories fun, after all.

 

[Mitsen]

Wait, is the tattered girl outside the house when 2 adults ate fighting (?) The real miyu? Is that a flashback?

It might be fake Miyu speaking from experience, rather.