Mushoku Tensei ~Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu~ - Ch. 102 - Entering The Labyrinth

[Haunted-Flame]

is there a single person who reads this manga without watching the anime?

Me, but Ive seen what happened since I saw a meme that was something to do with fathers day...

 

[darkrai69]

Finally, mere moments away from Rudy reuniting with best girl.

 

[Amariithynar]

is there a single person who reads this manga without watching the anime?

Me!

I see many "just-watch-the-fucking-anime" people here. Let's keep the spoilers to a minimum for those who just want to enjoy the manga.

Bruh. The light novel has been fully translated for at least a decade now. People read that and know what's coming already long, long ago. So long ago in my case that I forgot and have been enjoying refreshing my memory of exact events with the manga.

 

[cksn]

i don't understand why people treat this as better than the average isekai fantasy

hard to articulate what's wrong with it. it takes some parts of itself more seriously and other parts less seriously, but the choice of which ones just feels strange like the author's autistic

paul's cool though

 

[JosebaZilarte]

i don't understand why people treat this as better than the average isekai fantasy

hard to articulate what's wrong with it. it takes some parts of itself more seriously and other parts less seriously, but the choice of which ones just feels strange like the author's autistic

paul's cool though

Because this series was one one of the originators of the modern Isekai genre. The web novel was originally written in 2012 so, while not being the first isekai, it helped to popularize many of the tropes we are now used to. And since it was the first iteration of several of those tropes, they might seem not as refined as other works that came later, but those who are aware of the context it was written are thankful to the author (Know as Rifujin na Magonote or "Unreasonable Backscratcher").

So... yeah. Calling this series "average" is like saying The Lord of the Rings is unoriginal, because you have seen similar ideas in a D&D campaign.

 

[cksn]

that's unresponsive. i didn't say "people say this is original but it's unoriginal." i'm aware it was influential. i said "people say this is good but it's average," and half-heartedly tried to explain why, and it didn't have anything to do with originality.

 

[JosebaZilarte]

that's unresponsive. i didn't say "people say this is original but it's unoriginal." i'm aware it was influential. i said "people say this is good but it's average," and half-heartedly tried to explain why, and it didn't have anything to do with originality.

Because using the term "average" implies that you have seen other similar Isekai that have done that particular trope better and you are applying an incorrect measuring system to something that was good in its original context.

It's like saying the original Doom is an average game because others have made better FPS in the meantime. While it might be objectively true, you are preventing yourself from enjoying it by judging it with standards that are unreasonable.

Edit: That said, I believe that this series can still be considered "good" because, behind some superficial elements that might have become a bit dated, there are several core elements that remain interesting to this day (the world building, the magic system, the beats of the story... they mesh together much more cohesively than other derivative works that simply took some of those elements without understanding how they should be combined).

 

[shinya78]

One maze away from reuniting with Roxy, one step closer to

Spoiler

Pa ul.

 

[cksn]

Because using the term "average" implies that you have seen other similar Isekai that have done that particular trope better and you are applying an incorrect measuring system to something that was good in its original context.

It's like saying the original Doom is an average game because others have made better FPS in the meantime. While it might be objectively true, you are preventing yourself from enjoying it by judging it with standards that are unreasonable.

Edit: That said, I believe that this series can still be considered "good" because, behind some superficial elements that might have become a bit dated, there are several core elements that remain interesting to this day (the world building, the magic system, the beats of the story... they mesh together much more cohesively than other derivative works that simply took some of those elements without understanding how they should be combined).

you're focusing on how well it executes the aspects of the setting that became influential. that's fine; you're probably right that its setting is more cohesive than the average isekai fantasy. my problems with it aren't related to the setting: mostly awkward or inconsistent tone, and sometimes characterization

 

[Lurking-around]

is there a single person who reads this manga without watching the anime?

I do. Used to watch anime but then life happened. Now i only read manga as its more convenient and suit my free time

 

[NotSomeone]

is there a single person who reads this manga without watching the anime?

Me, I do, I don't like watching anime

 

[Astra_Starwalker]

I hope they plan on continuing to release translated chapters, Orsted did a better translation job than the other group.

 

[RandomRandoRandRanRaR]

Orsted, keep going please!